If it ain't broke...

[SAMF2000]

With all the Hype about Vista, not many people actually want it. MS is
doing everything for you to buy it. Even making games like Halo 2
exclusive for Vista. What MS does not realize is that they had a
great, stable OS Which was just lacking perfect security, but for the
average person XP Is great for gaming, photos movies and works with
all current drivers. When people start complaining about VISTA I
actually laugh because all the problems they are having are because
companies like Lexmark, Canon and Nvidia all want you to buy new
hardware and are not that quick to make drivers for OLD Hardware.

 

[Not Me]

I think the 'new blood' at MS wanted their ideas implemented to prove to the
'old guard' how much better they could do it..
To me, it looks like they hired all the programmers laid off from AOL.
The protect me from myself at all costs attitude doesn't fly with me.
XP and the other software I used provided security that was just fune for my
needs.
All I see in Vista is eye candy and an AOL type interface that has to be
hacked to work 'as desired' instead of 'as designed'.

 

[Plato]

All I see in Vista is eye candy and an AOL type interface that has to be
hacked to work 'as desired' instead of 'as designed'.

I think you will have to get used to the new look of the new MS OS.

 

[Lil' Dave]

I think you will have to get used to the new look of the new MS OS.

Me thinks you are confused. He's interested in operation, not appearances
from where I sit.
Dave

 

[Curt Christianson]

I'm certainly not going to rush and buy Vista (Service Packs or not). Let
it be out there a few years, then decide.

I was one of the never-say-die W98SE fans, but now I'm running XP Pro.
Prolly only reason is, is I inherited the machine this way.

Half of my dislike was the "Fisher_price" eye-candy, which I'm able to turn
off. This XP box looks more and more like 98 everyday--and that's an
important point to me. If I leave off all the extraneous items, and adjust
for best performance, there goes all the pretty pastels, and I get W98
performance (well, closer) AND a W98 look and feel.

My other reason to hate XP was I didn't know it, and it scared me. I still
don't know it well, *but it doesn't scare me any longer*. Don't let this
get any further than our "private chat room" here, but I'm beginning to kind
of like XP.

And with NTFS, I'll be *damned* if I can crash this box.

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Curt

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| With all the Hype about Vista, not many people actually want it. MS is
| doing everything for you to buy it. Even making games like Halo 2
| exclusive for Vista. What MS does not realize is that they had a
| great, stable OS Which was just lacking perfect security, but for the
| average person XP Is great for gaming, photos movies and works with
| all current drivers. When people start complaining about VISTA I
| actually laugh because all the problems they are having are because
| companies like Lexmark, Canon and Nvidia all want you to buy new
| hardware and are not that quick to make drivers for OLD Hardware.
|

 

[HeyBub]

I think the 'new blood' at MS wanted their ideas implemented to prove
to the 'old guard' how much better they could do it..
To me, it looks like they hired all the programmers laid off from AOL.
The protect me from myself at all costs attitude doesn't fly with me.
XP and the other software I used provided security that was just fune
for my needs.

I prefer to think of Vista as protecting me..., from you.

(Not "you" specifically, but "you" generally.)

 

[Alias]

I think you will have to get used to the new look of the new MS OS.

I'm getting used to the fantastic look of Beryl on Ubuntu and feel no
need to pay over 800 US Dollars for Vista Ultimate, especially when
Ubuntu is free.

Anyone interested, check out http://www.ubuntu.com/

Alias

 

[Stan]

I think the 'new blood' at MS wanted their ideas implemented to prove to the
'old guard' how much better they could do it..

Then came the latest Black Tuesday set of abortions which have caused
total havoc more than the normal Black Tuesday havoc we have grown
accustomed to (see microsoft.public.windowsupdate) and we see the lack
of programming competence at M$ with this "'new blood".

 

[PowerUser]

How did you cook up the $800 figure for Vista Ultimate?

 

[Bob I]

Humm, maybe that's how he mentally justifies the trouble he goes through
with the alternate operating system?

 

[Alias]

How did you cook up the $800 figure for Vista Ultimate?

I didn't cook it up. It's the price here for Retail Vista Ultimate. If
you can read Spanish, I can give you the web sites of the major computer
stores here if you don't believe me. Course, you would then have to
convert the prices from euros to dollars.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Humm, maybe that's how he mentally justifies the trouble he goes through
with the alternate operating system?

What trouble? If I wanted Vista Ultimate, I could easily get someone in
the States to send it to me for a more reasonable price.

Alias

 

[PowerUser]

Oh ok

Well Windows is worth money to me, because I make money off it. My work
depends on it. Probably everyone's found this out by now but an OEM Newegg
license can be bought separately for as low as ~180 USD when I last checked.
Smashing deal except I'd recommend using XP till SP1 is released. SP1 will
fix MANY crucial things including how it interacts with software that asks
for more than 2GB per program. For more read the excellent memory article
recently posted at Anandtech.

 

[Plato]

Well Windows is worth money to me, because I make money off it. My work
depends on it. Probably everyone's found this out by now but an OEM Newegg
license can be bought separately for as low as ~180 USD when I last checked.
Smashing deal except I'd recommend using XP till SP1 is released. SP1 will

If you want to use XP, then use XP2. It works really well espececially
for teenagers who have learned NOT do use peer-to-peer download files..

 

[Gordon]

If you want to use XP, then use XP2. It works really well espececially
for teenagers who have learned NOT do use peer-to-peer download files..

I think he was talking about VISTA SP1......not XP.

 

[PowerUser]

Yes, that was referring to the upcoming Vista SP1. I use P2P to download
files and have no problems. Guess you need to know *how* to use tools
rather than blame their existence.

 

[Alias]

Oh ok

Well Windows is worth money to me, because I make money off it.

I make money using Ubuntu. What's the difference then? Vista or XP cost
money and you have to deal with WGA and WPA. Ubuntu is free and you
don't have to deal with WGA and WPA.

Alias
My work

 

[Bruce Chambers]

How did you cook up the $800 figure for Vista Ultimate?

Alias has never been one to be overly influenced by facts. (But, then
again, he does reside in Spain, so the EU's socialist tax structure
probably does add a hefty toll to the price.)


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[Alias]

Alias has never been one to be overly influenced by facts. (But,
then again, he does reside in Spain, so the EU's socialist tax structure
probably does add a hefty toll to the price.)

I can prove the price with facts so you were saying?

Alias

 

[PowerUser]

I don't need to 'deal' with WGA or WPA. I've been using genuine Windows for
years and I've never had to even think about those things.