IE screen freezes when microsoft.com is entered

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BJD

I have IE6. When "microsoft.com" is entered in address
bar, Microsoft web page loads but screen freezes and I
can't click on any links. Hourglass icon appears. All
other websites work without difficulty. I can
access "microsoft.com" in safe mode, but not regular
mode. Have run Spybot, Adaware, and Norton antivirus
without success. Have deleted cookies, etc. Also have
uninstalled and reinstalled IE. Have also installed
Netscape Navigator and can access "microsoft.com" from
that browser. Any suggestions, please?
 
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Jan Il

Hi BJD :)

The microsoft.com is a secured site. Try the following and see if it helps:

Problems accessing secure sites/ cannot install 128 bit encryption
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers2.htm#secure_sites

or...........for XP

To download Java VM for XP:

Download the Microsoft Java VM for Windows XP here
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com


If these steps do not resolve your problem, please post back to this thread
with the details and any error messages.

Hope this helps

Jan :)
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Jan Il

Hi BJD :)
Thanks for the tips. I am using Windows XP professional. My updates
are already up to date, and the website you suggested did not offer
any additional updates. None of the solutions you suggested on
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers2.htm#secure_sites addressed my
problem. Do you have any other suggestions? Thank you

No.....I'm sorry... I don't have any other suggestions. This is a problem
that is hard to figure. It seems that most everyone that updates to SP2 has
this problem, as well as a few others that seem to be caused by SP2 and
affect some normal user OS systems. There seems to be a few cures, but,
some things work for some and don't for others. Hopefully, one of the
experts here will have a cure that will help you.

Sorry I can not be of more help. :)

If these steps do not resolve your problem, please post back to this thread
with the details and any error messages.

Hope this helps

Jan :)
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Robert Aldwinckle

I can access "microsoft.com" in safe mode,
Jan,

Don't forget that others have reported wacky symptoms especially
with the main Microsoft site while having Google or Yahoo toolbars
installed. Uninstalling them apparently fixes symptoms like this.
(Poster Upsdell is the first who I can recall providing this solution.)

Note: I can't remember which toolbar is predominately responsible
for which symptom. I do know that each seems to be associated
with unusual symptoms so I just mention them both each time.


FYI

Robert Aldwinckle
 
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Guest

Thank you for the help. I uninstalled Google toolbar with
no success. I also heard that uninstalling Norton
Systemworks might also help, but did that with no change.
If you have any other suggestions, would appreciate them.
Thanks.
 
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JimWae±

see
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/highdpi.asp


Either
1. change the Display Settings to "Normal Size (96 DPI)" from 120 DPI
OR
2. change the registry

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main]
"UseHR"=dword:00000000

OR

3. just leave it as is & never bother with www.microsoft.com - (MY EVENTUAL
CHOICE, because o/w the fonts are too small)
or
4. change the registry when you ever need to go to www.microsoft.com

Maybe someday Microsoft & Dell & Web-Page Programmers will work out what to
do about this
 
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BJD

Thank you for the excellent advice. I think that I will
just leave it alone. Appreciate your taking time to
answer.
-----Original Message-----
see
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp? url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/highdpi.asp


Either
1. change the Display Settings to "Normal Size (96 DPI)" from 120 DPI
OR
2. change the registry

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main]
"UseHR"=dword:00000000

OR

3. just leave it as is & never bother with
www.microsoft.com - (MY EVENTUAL
 
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Jan Il

Hi Robert :)
Jan,

Don't forget that others have reported wacky symptoms especially
with the main Microsoft site while having Google or Yahoo toolbars
installed. Uninstalling them apparently fixes symptoms like this.
(Poster Upsdell is the first who I can recall providing this
solution.)

Note: I can't remember which toolbar is predominately responsible
for which symptom. I do know that each seems to be associated
with unusual symptoms so I just mention them both each time.

Yes....that does seem to come into play very often. I did forget about
those toolbars and their possible relationship to these types of problems.
The Yahoo Companion can also cause some problems, and once uninstalled they
are usually resolved.

Thank you very much for reminding of me these toolbars, and their possible
relationship to such problems. I truly appreciate it. :))

Jan :)
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Robert Aldwinckle

Thank you for the help. I uninstalled Google toolbar with
no success. I also heard that uninstalling Norton
Systemworks might also help, but did that with no change.
If you have any other suggestions, would appreciate them.
Thanks.

The approach that I would take: packet trace just to know what
is going on. XP Pro's netcap captures the data and I would just
browse it in Notepad since although the .cap files are binary the
HTTP data is mostly readable. That would immediately help answer
questions such as whether a hijacking of that specific site was in effect
only for that particular browser (recognizing that you said the site is
accessible by another browser.)

Except for your symptom of getting an hourglass you might
then find a simple non-malware explanation for the partial rendering
you are seeing. However, the fact that you can access the site
using IE in safe mode I think strongly suggests that you do have
at least some residual effects from malware, even if the
spyware scanners you have used have found nothing wrong.

Even without taking a trace there are things you can do to investigate
your symptom such as turning on prompts for security options
and (usually not as usefully) turning on prompts for Cookies.
Assuming scripting, etc may be involved this allows you firstly to refine
your symptom description and secondly to check the TIF for what
files are being used at each "breakpoint". Netstat is another tool
I would use in this phase of an analysis (e.g. by switching to a
command window during the prompt) at least when a packet
trace was thought unnecessary.


More speculatively, I recently found out that XP has some tools
which might expose some potential causes of such symptoms
but I haven't actually seen them used (not in this newsgroup at least).

Start with netsh and its show commands. That could be
especially useful if you have another machine which is working
normally to use as a baseline for comparison.

E.g. I'm wondering if

netsh winsock show catalog type=LSP

ipseccmd show filters

would give you any clues.

ipseccmd is apparently available from the XP Support Tools.


BTW another poster has a similar symptom with Google.
In that case port 443 can be used but port 80 can not.
That proves that DNS is not an issue and implies that
there is something somewhere blocking (or invalidly redirecting)
a specific name and port combination.


My preference to problem solving is to use diagnostics and
analyse them from the point of view of supporting or disproving
some preliminary hypotheses about possible causes.
Others prefer to take a stab at a solution based on probable
causes, e.g. use what worked for others who had similar symptoms.

The fact that you can connect in safe mode or using Netscape
suggests the cause is likely malware. The other poster was adamant
that malware could not possibly be the cause which is why
I was forced into this sort of speculation. You can find lots
of suggestions from others' posts for uncovering and repairing
the effects of malware if you are willing to be more objective.


HTH

Robert[/QUOTE]
 
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JimWae±

You do realize the poster has already found help & a resolution -- in a
manner not at all covered in your lengthy post? No malware, no hijacking, no
toolbar.
 
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Robert Aldwinckle

JimWae± said:
You do realize the poster has already found help & a resolution -- in a manner not at all covered in your lengthy post? No
malware, no hijacking, no toolbar.

I didn't recognize it as a resolution, rather that the poster was giving up.
Also, I didn't see how the suggestion fitted with the stated symptoms.
More importantly I wanted the poster to understand that the toolbar idea
was a guess based on others' experiences. To get a solution which
was appropriate for the symptoms I think we need to understand the
symptoms better, e.g. find some cause, then either eliminate it or
work around it.

I would be very interested in seeing your arguments for your suggestion
in terms of all the poster's symptoms. I think I can see that it explains
the safe mode point, e.g. if safe mode implies a VGA mode driver.
And perhaps if the initial description was misworded such that the hourglass
symptom only occurs *after* a link was clicked it would begin to appear
that the problem has more to do with rendering (your basic position)
than with the connection (my idea). Actually now I see that I missed
the possibility that "the web page loads" could mean that it loads
completely. I should have requested clarification of that before making
the assumption that the connection would be the source of the problem.

Robert
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