I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection'

[Jethro]

You readers probably are saying, Oh No - here he is again - and here I
am!

This is another try to make my Remote Desktop Connection work.

In the 'active connections' result from command 'netstat -a', I see
a line on my so-called RIGHT machine as:

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP RIGHT:3389 RIGHT:0 LISTENING

and, as I have said in the past, I can connect from my LEFT machine to
the RIGHT machine just fine. So, indeed, RIGHT machine is listening.

But, as I also have said, I cannot connect from my RIGHT machine to my
LEFT machine.

I don't have the above 'listening' line in the 'NETSTAT -a' on my LEFT
machine. I'm thinking maybe my problem is that my LEFT machine is not
listening' and it should be.

So, a simple question. How and where do I create that line so LEFT
machine is listening on port 3389?

 

[Robert Moir]

You readers probably are saying, Oh No - here he is again - and here I
am!

This is another try to make my Remote Desktop Connection work.

In the 'active connections' result from command 'netstat -a', I see
a line on my so-called RIGHT machine as:

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP RIGHT:3389 RIGHT:0 LISTENING

and, as I have said in the past, I can connect from my LEFT machine to
the RIGHT machine just fine. So, indeed, RIGHT machine is listening.

But, as I also have said, I cannot connect from my RIGHT machine to my
LEFT machine.

I don't have the above 'listening' line in the 'NETSTAT -a' on my LEFT
machine. I'm thinking maybe my problem is that my LEFT machine is not
listening' and it should be.

So, a simple question. How and where do I create that line so LEFT
machine is listening on port 3389?

Not so simple. Talking about ports essentially means you're talking about
surgery when all that should be needed is a plaster. I'm assuming your
'left' machine is an XP Pro machine?

Right-Click My Computer, choose properties.
Click the 'Remote' tab.
In "Remote Desktop", ensure that 'Allow users to connect remotely to this
computer' is ticked, and press OK.

This 'should' be all you need to do. Are you saying you've tried this and
got nowhere?

 

[Jack \(MVP-Networking\).]

Hi
The computer that is idle with the Remote Desktop Host On is the one that is
listening.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

 

[Jethro]

Not so simple. Talking about ports essentially means you're talking about
surgery when all that should be needed is a plaster. I'm assuming your
'left' machine is an XP Pro machine?

Both are - sorry.

Right-Click My Computer, choose properties.
Click the 'Remote' tab.
In "Remote Desktop", ensure that 'Allow users to connect remotely to this
computer' is ticked, and press OK.

I right-clicked on My Computer and selected Properties on both
machines - I don't see any 'Remote Tab' on either. Now then - Control
Panel>System does produce the Remote Tab. An yes I have that option
checked on both machines.

 

[Jethro]

Hi
The computer that is idle with the Remote Desktop Host On is the one that is
listening.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

Hi back.

Can both machines be listening at same time? IOW, normally one would
have one host and one or more remotes. I have two machines that I
want to be able to run one's apps etc on the other - my choice as to
which, but of course, only one connection would (could) be active at
the same time. Is that reasonable?

Thanks
Jethro

 

[Robert Moir]

I right-clicked on My Computer and selected Properties on both
machines - I don't see any 'Remote Tab' on either. Now then - Control
Panel>System does produce the Remote Tab. An yes I have that option
checked on both machines.


Yep

Right. Still in control panel, open up Performance and Maintenance,
Administrative Tools and then run services.

Scroll down to the service named "Terminal Services". Is it started? If not,
what happens when you start it?

Still in administrative tools, open Event Viewer. Have a look in system for
errors relating to services having trouble starting at boot time in general,
and of course pay special interest to problems recorded with the terminal
server service. I'd also be thinking of double-checking my firewall about
this time to make sure that isn't treading on things.

This is one of those "really, it should 'just work'" kinda things so it's
odd that you're having issues, I wonder if something is killing it at
startup or if some settings got mixed up.

 

[Jethro]

Right. Still in control panel, open up Performance and Maintenance,
Administrative Tools and then run services.

Scroll down to the service named "Terminal Services". Is it started? If not,
what happens when you start it?

On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled!
for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working
(for the first time!!!!).

Still in administrative tools, open Event Viewer. Have a look in system for
errors relating to services having trouble starting at boot time in general,
and of course pay special interest to problems recorded with the terminal
server service. I'd also be thinking of double-checking my firewall about
this time to make sure that isn't treading on things.

This is one of those "really, it should 'just work'" kinda things so it's
odd that you're having issues, I wonder if something is killing it at
startup or if some settings got mixed up.

Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say
LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and
displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is
designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is
controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this
way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his
machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would
learn from me by following what I would do.

I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop?

Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense.

Jethro

 

[Robert Moir]

On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled!
for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working
(for the first time!!!!).

Glad we're getting there

Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say
LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and
displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is
designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is
controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this
way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his
machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would
learn from me by following what I would do.

I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop?

Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft Method"
but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I think
it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles away
over the webs.

What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC.
(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience
much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run
Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple Mac,
Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's
flexable that way.

But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you want
so you might want to give it a go.

Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense.

Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones we
never dare to ask!

 

[Jethro]

Glad we're getting there


Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft Method"
but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I think
it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles away
over the webs.

What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC.
(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience
much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run
Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple Mac,
Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's
flexable that way.

But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you want
so you might want to give it a go.


Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones we
never dare to ask!

Thanks again. May the Red Sox start winning again!

Jethro

 

[Jethro]

Glad we're getting there


Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft Method"
but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I think
it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles away
over the webs.

What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC.
(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience
much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run
Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple Mac,
Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's
flexable that way.

Hey Robert -
I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on
both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from
RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA,
However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT!
I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any
idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC
looks like something I'd like to try to use.
Thanks
Jethro

 

[Robert Moir]

Hey Robert -
I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on
both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from
RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA,
However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT!
I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any
idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC
looks like something I'd like to try to use.

tried with the tcp/ip address?
Also, try setting the ports differently on each one, e.g. for your left
machine set the VNC port to 5900 (might well be the default) and the right
hand one to 5901.

 

[Jethro]

tried with the tcp/ip address?

Yes - both RIGHT and ###.###.#.###

Also, try setting the ports differently on each one, e.g. for your left
machine set the VNC port to 5900 (might well be the default) and the right
hand one to 5901.

I have to ask out of ignorance again - netstat on LEFT machine clearly
shows listening on 3389, 5800, AND 5900 for 'Local Address
LEFT:.....
but RIGHT machine does only shows listening on right:3389, but
neither 5800 or 5900.
So how do I set the ports on RIGHT machine?

Thanks

Jethro

 

[Jack \(MVP-Networking\).]

Hi
May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

 

[Robert Moir]

Yes - both RIGHT and ###.###.#.###


I have to ask out of ignorance again - netstat on LEFT machine clearly
shows listening on 3389, 5800, AND 5900 for 'Local Address
LEFT:.....
but RIGHT machine does only shows listening on right:3389, but
neither 5800 or 5900.
So how do I set the ports on RIGHT machine?

This suggests that VNC isn't installed as a service (At least, not
correctly) or isn't starting. I'd go through the VNC server preferences
again, making sure to configure it to run automatically.

 

[Jethro]

Hi
May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

Hi Jack -

I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT.
I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port
5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines.
Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine -
after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect
from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication
Failed'.

Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat.

Thanks

Jethro

 

[Jethro]

Hi
May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

Hi Jack -

I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT.
I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port
5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines.
Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine -
after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect
from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication
Failed'.

Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat.

Thanks

Jethro

 

[Jack \(MVP-Networking\).]

Hi
Put one computer VNC Host's port at 5910 and when you invoke the Viewer to
see it type: 192.168.1.1:5910 (IP number is an example, type the destination
computer's IP).
Jack (MVP-Networking).

 

[Jethro]

Hi
Put one computer VNC Host's port at 5910 and when you invoke the Viewer to
see it type: 192.168.1.1:5910 (IP number is an example, type the destination
computer's IP).
Jack (MVP-Networking).

For me, it was 192.168.0.100:5910

Same thing - VNC Authentication failed.

 

[Sooner Al [MVP]]

For me, it was 192.168.0.100:5910

Same thing - VNC Authentication failed.

For a non-standard port use the IP address followed by two colon characters
then the port number...

192.168.0.100::5910

Here is an explanation of the Viewer settings...

http://www.uvnc.com/install/viewerconfig.html

Here is an explanation of the Server settings...

http://www.uvnc.com/install/configuration.html

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[Jethro]

For a non-standard port use the IP address followed by two colon characters
then the port number...

192.168.0.100::5910

Aw geez! I get same error response with this too.
I'll take a look at the explanation and get back to U.

Thanks

Jethro