Kevin,
And if you really want to have a weekend of 'fun' try to fully uninstall Norton AV...sheesh.
R.
| Norton definitely sucks, but there aren't a whole lot of choices out there
| for anti-virus and firewall security. So I have it installed, but have
| disabled ALL of the automatic features that it has. Unfortunately, it took
| me several hours to figure out how to disable some of them, which Symantec,
| in its' "infinite wisdom" has decided I shouldn't have control over, even
| though it's my machine... Required several registry hacks, deleting some
| DLLs, etc, but it now does WHAT I want it to WHEN I want it to, and it's not
| a problem.
|
| The irony of all this is that applications that use the Internet, like
| FrontPage, are often clobbered by these well-meaning protectors that we have
| developed over the years. Yet, people demand that their software works
| easily without any interference from them. So, we end up having these 2
| opposite requirements:
|
| 1. Our computer must be safe from intrusion without our knowing how or why.
| 2. Our software must be easy to use, requiring little or no knowledge of how
| or why.
|
| And the hackers and virus-writers are constantly testing the limits of the
| current protection, thereby creating a vicious cycle from which there seems
| to be no means of escape. If we disable our protection software, our other
| software requires a greater level of understanding to use. If we enable our
| protection software, our other software is often affected in such a way that
| without a greater level of understanding, we are unable to use it. And of
| course, our protection software, like the Patriot Act, tends to be difficult
| machiavellian, making it difficult to tweak without a greater level of
| understanding.
|
| No solutions here. Just observations.
|
| | > > I can't be disconnected all the time while working on FP
| >
| > Nobody suggested such a ridiculous thing. It was suggested that you make
| > sure your AV was disabled when installing FP.
| >
| > Personally, I would never use Norton for anything, but that is just me.
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| >
| > | > > Re: Norton AV abled/disabled during the Office Update. I THINK I had it
| > > disabled but....I'm not 100% sure.
| > > As far as shutting it off, I know enough to disconnect from the internet
| > > but IF Norton is the culprit in my FP2003 freezing I can't be
| disconnected
| > > all the time while working on FP. Others depend on my shared connection.
| > >
| > > Someone asked if I was logged on as an Administrator. The answer is yes.
| > >
| > > I think we're pretty much at a dead end with this...other than maybe
| > > re-installing the Office Update and ensuring that Norton is off while I
| > > do.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > | > >> Just disconnect from the internet when you disable it. You should be
| > >> relatively safe then! 8)
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> Murray
| > >>
| > >> | > >>> However you needed to have Norton disabled when you installed
| > >>> Office/FrontPage, or some files may
| > >>> not be installed correctly. This could be part of your current
| problems,
| > >>> if Norton was running when
| > >>> you installed FP2003.
| > >>>
| > >>> In general any anti-virus application should be disabled when
| installing
| > >>> or upgrading applications.
| > >>>
| > >>> --
| > >>> ==============================================
| > >>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > >>> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > >>>
| > >>> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > >>> ==============================================
| > >>> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > >>>
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > >>>
| > >>> | > >>>> Wow! This has created more controversy that the hanging chads in
| > >>>> Florida!
| > >>>>
| > >>>> To answer some questions. Yes, I do have Norton AV. I don't have it
| set
| > >>>> up
| > >>>> for auto-scan though.
| > >>>> Don't have Quick Books but I do have Quicken Home & Biz
| > >>>> Definitely have Acrobat and Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer.
| > >>>> This give any clues.?
| > >>>>
| > >>>> As far as getting rid of any programs in the background I do that all
| > >>>> the
| > >>>> time. I also set up msconfig not to load that stuff and I often go to
| > >>>> Processes to see what's running.
| > >>>>
| > >>>> As far as Norton is concerned...with the number o virus attacks I get
| a
| > >>>> day,
| > >>>> I wouldn't want to turn it off for second.
| > >>>>
| > >>>> I'm not sure where to go from here.
| > >>>>
| > >>>> Alex
| > >>>>
| > >>>>
| > >>>>
| > >>>>
| > >>>> | > >>>> > Nobody is saying it's your fault. Just that you may be unknowingly
| > >>>> > running something that is conflicting. Going back to 2000 makes
| as
| > >>>> > much
| > >>>> > sense as using DOS 1.0
| > >>>> >
| > >>>> > When the problem occurs, open your task bar and see what processes
| > >>>> > are
| > >>>> > running. (there WILL be stuff running) Try turning off anything
| > >>>> > suspicious one at a time. If FP starts working, you have found the
| > >>>> > culprit. You can then uninstall the conflicting program or uncheck
| > >>>> > it in
| > >>>> > the startup setting in start/run/msconfig.
| > >>>> >
| > >>>> > | > >>>> >> Thanks to those who offered to assist. Of course I did expect at
| > >>>> >> least
| > >>>> >> one "it's your fault" response.
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >> First of all, I am very careful about what I run in he background.
| > >>>> >> I'm a
| > >>>> >> tidy nut. I usually have nothing running in the BG.
| > >>>> >> The OS is Win XP-SP2. The processor is a AMD2600+ with 512 of
| RAM.
| > >>>> >> I
| > >>>> >> have about 100G of HD space.
| > >>>> >> FP2003 is an upgrade from FP2000.
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >> What other applications do I have. Many...but none are running in
| > >>>> >> the BG.
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >> I was not running PWS.
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >> And I know.... yanking the plug out is no help..but I have been so
| > >>>> >> frustrated, it's surprising I didn't fling the whole CPU at the
| > >>>> >> wall!
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >> Thanks to Steve..I will try his suggestion.
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >> I STILL didn't get an answer regarding the fact that I bought and
| > >>>> >> paid
| > >>>> >> for something that doesn't work. Why do software suppliers feel
| that
| > >>>> >> backing a product is not a responsibility? There IS a cavalier
| > >>>> >> attitude
| > >>>> >> here. It's that attitude that the technically uneducated customer
| > >>>> >> is an
| > >>>> >> idiot and as a result they cause all their own problems. If this
| was
| > >>>> >> a
| > >>>> >> CAR, I'd be dead by now!
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >> Alex
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >> | > >>>> >>> Alex,
| > >>>> >>>
| > >>>> >>> I really hate to say it, but FP03 works on most computers.
| > >>>> >>> Usually if there is an problem it is related to the OS or to
| > >>>> >>> conflicts with other applications. What processes do you
| > >>>> >>> have running the background? What other applications are
| > >>>> >>> installed on this machine? Did you upgrade from FP00 to FP03
| > >>>> >>> or what?
| > >>>> >>>
| > >>>> >>> Aside from your system hangs, the other issues you have
| > >>>> >>> brought here are Hover Buttons and tables. Neither of which
| > >>>> >>> is an FP issue, it is the clients machine.
| > >>>> >>>
| > >>>> >>> Mike
| > >>>> >>>
| > >>>> >>> | > >>>> >>> :I have HAD it with FP2003 problems!! I bought 2003 about
| > >>>> >>> three weeks ago
| > >>>> >>> : and
| > >>>> >>> : have been trying to re-build our web site with it since I
| > >>>> >>> first got it....as
| > >>>> >>> : some
| > >>>> >>> : people on this forum may have noticed with my MANY
| > >>>> >>> requests for help!
| > >>>> >>> :
| > >>>> >>> : I'm just about over the edge with this thing. FP2000,
| > >>>> >>> although it was a
| > >>>> >>> : simpler application was at least stable. With FP2003, I
| > >>>> >>> have had one crash
| > >>>> >>> : or freeze-up after
| > >>>> >>> : another after another after another. Several times a day,
| > >>>> >>> when I begin to
| > >>>> >>> : make change or add a
| > >>>> >>> : link to a page, suddenly the hourglass comes on and STAYS
| > >>>> >>> on. One time I
| > >>>> >>> : actually went for a half hour coffee break and it was
| > >>>> >>> STILL on when I
| > >>>> >>> : returned. I can't
| > >>>> >>> : close it without Ctrl-Alt-Del. THEN it won't reopen. ALSO,
| > >>>> >>> my computer won't
| > >>>> >>> : shut down. It gives me
| > >>>> >>> : the NEVER ENDING message "Saving Your Settings". I have to
| > >>>> >>> yank the plug
| > >>>> >>> : outta the wall to get it to shut down!!
| > >>>> >>> :
| > >>>> >>> : I seriously don't want to fool around with this nonsense.
| > >>>> >>> I paid for a
| > >>>> >>> : product. for which I am not at all happy. I want and need
| > >>>> >>> some satisfaction
| > >>>> >>> : from Microsoft. Who do I talk to get this resolved? I am
| > >>>> >>> also a little tired
| > >>>> >>> : of being treated with a cavalier attitude as though I
| > >>>> >>> created the problem. I
| > >>>> >>> : bought it. I installed it. I expect it to work, first time
| > >>>> >>> and all the time.
| > >>>> >>> :
| > >>>> >>> : By the way, I have done all the Detect and Repair and all
| > >>>> >>> the other "fix-it"
| > >>>> >>> : routines.
| > >>>> >>> :
| > >>>> >>> : Alex
| > >>>> >>> :
| > >>>> >>> :
| > >>>> >>> :
| > >>>> >>> :
| > >>>> >>> :
| > >>>> >>>
| > >>>> >>>
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >>
| > >>>> >
| > >>>> >
| > >>>>
| > >>>>
| > >>>
| > >>>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
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