I finally bit the bullet and installed dotnet.

[derek / nul]

Well, I remembered how I resisted installing VB6 runtimes and when I
gave in, I did it screaming and kicking. Dotnet is just the next
generation runtime.

Unfortunately its another step along the road of M$ domination.
..net is not public domain

 

[David]

Happy Reading:

http://www.discourse.net/

Nothing there about .net that I could see.

 

[Chris Lee]

Chris,
Why do you say that? Just curious. I haven't heard of any such
problems. Can you provide me with a link or some other kind of info?

TIA

It's simple. Installing .NET and MONO both create a new way for outsiders to
enter your
system from outside (via the internet). Don't buy into the garabge that either
are "SECURE"
because there ain't no such animal in software, especially software Microsoft
has had
a hand in designing.

 

[John Corliss]

RE: I saw that .net is now at version 1.1 and there's also been an update,
so I figured maybe MS had corrected the login problems.

John C do you start using your WindowsXp Home without login in and the
password is blank in your account?

Sorry, but I don't use that version of the OS. I use Windows Millennium
Edition on my computer. I never see a login screen because I have it
configured (via TweakUI) to be that way.

I haven't investigated regarding the update but I had no success with Net
1.1 in the no log-in/blank password for my solitary user situation. I wanted
to try the autostitch software being developed at the University of British
Columbia which is dependent on Net. There was a strong conflict on the no
log in feature. So I wondered if you have had success what your set up is on
your machine?

Sorry I can't help you, but there's been discussion in this group
regarding how to stop logging in with your setup. Perhaps somebody else
can either help you or point you out to that discussion.

 

[John Corliss]

Unfortunately its another step along the road of M$ domination.
.net is not public domain

I think I kind of see what they're trying to do with dotnet though. The
way that WorldWind accesses various sources of data is not necessarily a
bad thing. I hope you read this article that Mel pointed out:

http://www.ecommnewz.com/ecommnewz-4-20010417What-is-Net.html

especially the section titled "Major Problems of .Net Microsoft is
Forced To Make Changes To The Heart of .Net".

I agree though, rather than saying "Dotnet is *just* the next generation
runtime", I should have worded that "*Among other things*, dotnet is the
next generation runtime."

 

[John Corliss]

It's simple. Installing .NET and MONO both create a new way for outsiders to
enter your system from outside (via the internet). Don't buy into the
garabge that either are "SECURE" because there ain't no such animal in
software, especially software Microsoft has had a hand in designing.

My understanding is that a .net application calls out to get the data it
wants. Thus, if you install a .net malware of some kind, yes, I can see
this as a real problem. Since malware already does this kind of thing,
..net might just be providing yet another means for it to occur.

Still, I would like to read some particulars on this possibility.

 

[Mel]

It's simple. Installing .NET and MONO both create a new way for outsiders to
enter your system from outside (via the internet). Don't buy into the garabge
that either are "SECURE" because there ain't no such animal in software,
especially software Microsoft has had a hand in designing.

Are their published articles that give more in-depth information about
the Security vulnerabilities posed by .Net & MONO? If so please cite
these sources - I'd like to read them.

 

[REM]

John Corliss

I think I kind of see what they're trying to do with dotnet though. The
way that WorldWind accesses various sources of data is not necessarily a
bad thing. I hope you read this article that Mel pointed out:

especially the section titled "Major Problems of .Net Microsoft is
Forced To Make Changes To The Heart of .Net".

I agree though, rather than saying "Dotnet is *just* the next generation
runtime", I should have worded that "*Among other things*, dotnet is the
next generation runtime."

I don't see anything bad about dot.net. It's a fairly good idea.

It's been moving into the open source arena as well:

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q="open+source"+dot.net+Mono&btnG=Search>

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DotNetForLinux

 

[derek / nul]

It's simple. Installing .NET and MONO both create a new way for outsiders to enter your
system from outside (via the internet). Don't buy into the garabge that either are "SECURE"
because there ain't no such animal in software, especially software Microsoft has had
a hand in designing.

Could you provide some kind of proof instead of FUD,

or do we ignore you?

 

[Chris Lee]

Could you provide some kind of proof instead of FUD,

or do we ignore you?

Doesn't matter one way or the other to me, since I'm not going install
either .net or MONO on any of my machines and am going to do my damnest to
discourage others from installing the bloated garabge on their systems.

 

[Vic Dura]

Doesn't matter one way or the other to me, since I'm not going install
either .net or MONO on any of my machines and am going to do my damnest to
discourage others from installing the bloated garabge on their systems.

I like that attitude.