I finally bit the bullet and installed dotnet.

[Mike]

I've also recently installed it -- and found that I now have to click on my
WinXP user profile to log in on start-up, whereas before it would happen
automatically. Any idea how I can revert to that situation without
un-installing dotnet??

Thanks, all, for your responses. I'll give them a try.

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[Chris Lee]

John, maybe I missed previous comments. What is dotnet- advantages?

Mike Sa

There aren't any. Now if you want to increase the risk of having your ID or
other personal information stolen, by all means install .NET or MONO.

 

[Bob Adkins]

Can anybody recommend some good dotnet based programs which run in ME
and which I might want to look at?

A couple of my favorites!

EraseTemp. Best temp eraser I have found so far. Erases all temp files from
folders you point it to on every boot. It's safe, because it lets the temp
files age a couple of days so you don't erase temp files needed for re-boot
after installing a program.

Paint.Net. More than just the lame-assed Windows Paint on steroids. It's
Windows Paint highly evolved to a truly useful level. The program that's in
constant development by university students, so it should get better and
better.

Oh yeah, dotnet is supposedly easy enough to remove via the Control
Panel's Add/Remove Programs module. If I detect any problems with the
runtime, this will happen.

Yea, me too.

-- Bob

 

[John Corliss]

There aren't any. Now if you want to increase the risk of having your ID or
other personal information stolen, by all means install .NET or MONO.

Chris,
Why do you say that? Just curious. I haven't heard of any such
problems. Can you provide me with a link or some other kind of info?

TIA

 

[John Corliss]

My friends run it on their ME computer with a cheap video card & HS
internet. Works ok on theirs but a bit slower due to their video card.

They only have 256MB ram so I loaned them another 256MB stick and they
definitely noticed a speed increase in page loading; if that helps you
any.

Thanks, but with my fiber optic connection it seems to run nicely.

 

[John Corliss]

(clipped)
A couple of my favorites!

EraseTemp. Best temp eraser I have found so far. Erases all temp files from
folders you point it to on every boot. It's safe, because it lets the temp
files age a couple of days so you don't erase temp files needed for re-boot
after installing a program.

I'm still using Empty Temp Folders
(http://www.danish-shareware.dk/soft/emptemp/index.html) believe it or
not. The program's author, Ekberg Christiansen sent me the 2.9.3.3 beta
version of it and as far as I know, development on the program stopped a
couple of years ago. The page says "I've now got WinXP (thanks to a
friendly donation) and version 2.9 will be ready (I hope) before summer"
but 2003 is the summer he's refering to.

Paint.Net. More than just the lame-assed Windows Paint on steroids. It's
Windows Paint highly evolved to a truly useful level. The program that's in
constant development by university students, so it should get better and
better.

"Paint.NET is image and photo manipulation software designed to be used
on computers that run Windows 2000, XP, or Server 2003" and I'm running
ME on my system. Too bad too, because I'm always on the lookout for good
image editing freeware that has one or more unique capabilities.

Yea, me too.

Chris Lee says in another reply to this thread: "Now if you want to
increase the risk of having your ID or other personal information
stolen, by all means install .NET or MONO." I've asked him for
clarification.

 

[Kristof Gajsek]

EraseTemp. Best temp eraser I have found so far. Erases all temp files from
folders you point it to on every boot. It's safe, because it lets the temp
files age a couple of days so you don't erase temp files needed for re-boot
after installing a program.

You may use DeleteMe, if you want the same functionality, but want to
avoid installing .NET.

Best regards, Kristof
http://www.cyberkiko.com

 

[Kristof Gajsek]

There aren't any. Now if you want to increase the risk of having your ID or
other personal information stolen, by all means install .NET or MONO.

That is a bull shit...

..NET is just a framework, for use by programmers. .NET doesn't do
anything on its own, nor will it increase chances for a stolen ID or
personal information. Those chances will increase only, if a programmer
use .NET in the wrong way, but then, if a Visual Basic programmer uses
VB run-time in a wrong way, or if C++ programmer uses Windows API in a
wrong way, the result would be the same...

The only problem with .NET at the moment is, it is not included with OS,
so you have to download those 20MB or so, when you install first .NET
application. With next version of Windows, with .NET included, hardly
anyone will bother if an application is .NET or not.

Best regards, Kristof
http://www.cyberkiko.com

 

[John Corliss]

If you can zoom that close, it is working. Guess I'll have to try it
again. IIRC, LandSat res is 15 meters/pixel - not all that great if you
are used to aerials that can resolve a golf ball on the green but not
all that bad either.

My results were best when I used the USGS Digital Ortho. Amazing detail.
Give it a try!

 

[Vic Dura]

Have you noticed
that oftentimes using Windows Help requires that you be online to access
information on MS servers? How about the way MS Office doesn't come with
a lot of clipart, but you can access it through MS servers? Have you
noticed how Microsoft often uses the word "strategy" as if the end user
is the enemy?

Not the enemy John, but the "victim". An enemy in a conflict is
traditionally accorded more respect than MicroShaft shows us, IMO.

What caused you to do it? Knowing how you feel about MS, there must
have been some piece of software that required .net that you *really*
wanted.

 

[Mel]

There aren't any. Now if you want to increase the risk of having your ID or
other personal information stolen, by all means install .NET or MONO.

Happy Reading:

http://www.discourse.net/

 

[Jeff Chapman]

Hi John,

<shameless plug> Well if you're a habitual list-maker and organizer then
feel free to try orGenta:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jdc24/orGenta/orGentaFeatures.htm

It's just the first release, but I'd be happy to hear if you have any
diffuclties running it on ME.

-- Jeff

---------- Original Message ------------

Can anybody recommend some good dotnet based programs which run in ME
and which I might want to look at?

<snip>

 

[Jeff Chapman]

LOL, not to mention I should spell-check my difficulties before I hit *send*
<g>

 

[Mel]

There aren't any. Now if you want to increase the risk of having your ID or
other personal information stolen, by all means install .NET or MONO.

Problems of .Net Microsoft is Forced To Make Changes To The Heart of
..Net

http://www.ecommnewz.com/ecommnewz-4-20010417What-is-Net.html

 

[ms]

It's MS's latest runtime, except that you can program for it using
several languages. At least that's the way Microsoft explained it to me.
They developed it as a kind of "gentle nudge" to end users in the
direction of making all software available only online and via rental
fees rather than your being able to purchase a CD and install it on your
computer. Bill Gates wants all computers eventually to be nothing more
than thin clients so that he can maximize his profits. Have you noticed
that oftentimes using Windows Help requires that you be online to access
information on MS servers? How about the way MS Office doesn't come with
a lot of clipart, but you can access it through MS servers? Have you
noticed how Microsoft often uses the word "strategy" as if the end user
is the enemy?

What a prick Bill is. But I digress....

Thanks, John, my ME puter now looks just like my W98SE puter, it will stay
that way. As VB6 goes away, and NET gets more popular, I will just stay
with my present programs.

Mike Sa

 

[derek / nul]

There aren't any. Now if you want to increase the risk of having your ID or
other personal information stolen, by all means install .NET or MONO.

Any evidence of that, I have been running .net since it came out, because of a
program that I need.

 

[John Corliss]

Not the enemy John, but the "victim". An enemy in a conflict is
traditionally accorded more respect than MicroShaft shows us, IMO.

What caused you to do it? Knowing how you feel about MS, there must
have been some piece of software that required .net that you *really*
wanted.

Well, I remembered how I resisted installing VB6 runtimes and when I
gave in, I did it screaming and kicking. Dotnet is just the next
generation runtime. Next, I saw that .net is now at version 1.1 and
there's also been an update, so I figured maybe MS had corrected the
login problems. Finally, I noticed that it .net was easily removable via
the Add/Remove Programs Control Panel module, so I figured what the
heck, I'll give it a try.
If it goofed up, I'd do an uninstall and then a system restore. My
computer is nearing the time for a total system reinstall, so even that
option isn't so abhorent. I installed .net and rebooted, VOILA! No problems.
I let it remain a day and still nothing unpleasant occured, so I
figured now it was time to try a program that used .net. WorldWind fits
the bill. I'm actually quite happy with .net and WorldWind so .net can stay.
Guess I was kind of in the doldrums regarding software... needed
something new to screw around with. WorldWind is very cool. In
combination with Celestia, one can have a virtual reality on their
computer. It's only a matter time before you'll be able to see little
virtual people running around in the cities and can destroy them at
will. "Think I'll drop a 5 megaton bomb here" or "what if I start the
plague here?" Heh.
I still say that .net is a step down the road towards renting online
software instead of having it on your hard drive, but only in the same
way that owning a gun can lead to you killing the neighbor's cat. 80)>
I.e. it establishes the capability, but doesn't force you to do it.

 

[John Corliss]

Problems of .Net Microsoft is Forced To Make Changes To The Heart of
.Net

http://www.ecommnewz.com/ecommnewz-4-20010417What-is-Net.html

A good read. Thanks, Mel!

 

[John Corliss]

John Corliss wrote:


Hi John,
<shameless plug> Well if you're a habitual list-maker and organizer then
feel free to try orGenta:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jdc24/orGenta/orGentaFeatures.htm

It's just the first release, but I'd be happy to hear if you have any
diffuclties running it on ME.

Unfortunately, "orGenta is shareware written in Microsoft's C#.Net".
It's not freeware then.

 

[RoseW]

RE: I saw that .net is now at version 1.1 and there's also been an update,
so I figured maybe MS had corrected the login problems.

John C do you start using your WindowsXp Home without login in and the
password is blank in your account?

I haven't investigated regarding the update but I had no success with Net
1.1 in the no log-in/blank password for my solitary user situation. I wanted
to try the autostitch software being developed at the University of British
Columbia which is dependent on Net. There was a strong conflict on the no
log in feature. So I wondered if you have had success what your set up is on
your machine?

RoseW