I am praying for the Doggie to return based on Vista Search!

[evieg]

Has anyone run Vista Beta1 yet? I did and I can tell you that the
vaunted search feature Microsoft is talking about as an improvement -
really sucks!!

I made fun of the doggie in XP that showed up first-time until you turned
it off - but if all that was wrong with Vista search was a Doggie -
please give me the Doggie back again to turn it off. Of course in XP you
can tweak it to give you Classic Search and I am praying that Microsoft
allows Classic Search in Vista. Search is a mess.

I find the whole concept stupid of searching for MetaData (that little
junk included in MP3 files for example showing the Artist Name, etc) in
just pure files that you want to know where they are at. Do you really
care that Joe Blow Created this file on April 12th, 1999 or do you just
want access to the file and can't remember all the details - but you know
it was an *.exe file you downloaded in a month or so ago?

You cannot perform a Global Search of your computer with the new Search
Feature of Vista - you are limited to whatever folder you have open. I
just put Cool Search on the system to have a workable search engine.
Lousy feature that MS better change. Stupid.

Tons of stuff wrong with Vista. I use my computer - a P4 2.8 Ghz
machine primarily to capture video. I have 512MB memory but use the
Intel Graphic Chip embedded that gives me up to 96MB of video as needed
memory. I installed the Intel Chip driver manually and worked fine - but
Vista has a thing where it controls your multimedia apps and decides how
to give them video priority.

With it running my TV-card could barely show a picture every other third
frame - even though it uses no memory as it has its own MPEG-2 chip built
in and encodes internally before shooting out.

As expected - I just turned off most of the services - and everything
worked perfect - Vista is after all just another flavor of NT5
(2000/XP/and now Vista).

But I see nothing here worthy of the name of an improvement - just a
flashy GUI and junk as the underlying theme.

period

 

[Donald L McDaniel]

Has anyone run Vista Beta1 yet? I did and I can tell you that the
vaunted search feature Microsoft is talking about as an improvement -
really sucks!!

I made fun of the doggie in XP that showed up first-time until you turned
it off - but if all that was wrong with Vista search was a Doggie -
please give me the Doggie back again to turn it off. Of course in XP you
can tweak it to give you Classic Search and I am praying that Microsoft
allows Classic Search in Vista. Search is a mess.

I find the whole concept stupid of searching for MetaData (that little
junk included in MP3 files for example showing the Artist Name, etc) in
just pure files that you want to know where they are at. Do you really
care that Joe Blow Created this file on April 12th, 1999 or do you just
want access to the file and can't remember all the details - but you know
it was an *.exe file you downloaded in a month or so ago?

You cannot perform a Global Search of your computer with the new Search
Feature of Vista - you are limited to whatever folder you have open. I
just put Cool Search on the system to have a workable search engine.
Lousy feature that MS better change. Stupid.

Tons of stuff wrong with Vista. I use my computer - a P4 2.8 Ghz
machine primarily to capture video. I have 512MB memory but use the
Intel Graphic Chip embedded that gives me up to 96MB of video as needed
memory. I installed the Intel Chip driver manually and worked fine - but
Vista has a thing where it controls your multimedia apps and decides how
to give them video priority.

With it running my TV-card could barely show a picture every other third
frame - even though it uses no memory as it has its own MPEG-2 chip built
in and encodes internally before shooting out.

As expected - I just turned off most of the services - and everything
worked perfect - Vista is after all just another flavor of NT5
(2000/XP/and now Vista).

But I see nothing here worthy of the name of an improvement - just a
flashy GUI and junk as the underlying theme.

period

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE try to remember that Vista is CURRENTLY barely
a "Beta", and the FIRST Beta, at that. You can EXPECT uncompleted
features, missing features, buggy software, etc. For MANY Months. In
addition, if you downloaded Vist at a NON-MICROSOFT website, you can
DEFINITELY expect buggy software, since no images of the OS not
distributed by Microsoft cannot even be guaranteed to be the original
Microsoft image.

Try to remember that the barely-completed features currently in Beta 1
WILL be finished by the time it is distributed to the general public.

Trying to compare Vista to a completed Operating System is ridiculous
at this point in its development cycle.

Donald L McDaniel
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[Donald L McDaniel]

remember what - this Beta is from a multi-Billion Dollar Comapany who is
floating the idea that this will be its new OS and I am supposed to say
well they just are putting out a flyer?

Don't you understand the difference between "Beta" software and
"Finished Software released to the general public"?

Lousy stuff now in Beta means lousy stuff in production.

This is JUST NOT TRUE. ALL betas are produced as INTERRIM releases.
They do NOT contain ALL or even MOST of the features which will be
included in the finished-and-released product, and many times even the
included features are not complete or enabled. In other words, a BETA
release is MEANT to be a "TESTBED" for new or different solutions to a
problems or bugs, NOT a normally-working fully developed and finished
software product

Beta 1 traditionally has been a much weaker product than later betas
or the finished product. After all, it is the first release to
testers from outside the company labs. This is true for MOST software
products being developed. And NOT just by Microsoft. Betas are
released by ALL software manufacturers. Some are released to the
general public, some are only released to a select few. Such is the
case with Beta 1 of Vista. It has ONLY been released by Microsoft to
a FEW chosen beta testers and several software developers and members
of the Computer software press so that they will be up-to-speed when
designing their software products so that they work with Vista, or
reporting on the features and usability of Vista.

If you have the beta, and are NOT part of Microsoft's group of
official Beta testers or chosen software developers, no WONDER you
have a bad product. In the first place, the Beta was NOT released to
the general public, and was NEVER meant to run on an every-day
production machine like your home computer. It is meant to run on a
test machine. Warez or other pirated software is NOTORIOUSLY broken
or virus-infected.

cya

Before you start criticizing Microsoft, get "legal" with them. If you
are NOT part of Microsoft's chosen and official Beta testers, you
currently have a PIRATED version of Vista, and this makes you a
CRIMINAL according to the Statutes of the United States.

Donald L McDaniel
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[Alias]

Don't you understand the difference between "Beta" software and
"Finished Software released to the general public"?


This is JUST NOT TRUE. ALL betas are produced as INTERRIM releases.
They do NOT contain ALL or even MOST of the features which will be
included in the finished-and-released product, and many times even the
included features are not complete or enabled. In other words, a BETA
release is MEANT to be a "TESTBED" for new or different solutions to a
problems or bugs, NOT a normally-working fully developed and finished
software product

Beta 1 traditionally has been a much weaker product than later betas
or the finished product. After all, it is the first release to
testers from outside the company labs. This is true for MOST software
products being developed. And NOT just by Microsoft. Betas are
released by ALL software manufacturers. Some are released to the
general public, some are only released to a select few. Such is the
case with Beta 1 of Vista. It has ONLY been released by Microsoft to
a FEW chosen beta testers and several software developers and members
of the Computer software press so that they will be up-to-speed when
designing their software products so that they work with Vista, or
reporting on the features and usability of Vista.

If you have the beta, and are NOT part of Microsoft's group of
official Beta testers or chosen software developers, no WONDER you
have a bad product. In the first place, the Beta was NOT released to
the general public, and was NEVER meant to run on an every-day
production machine like your home computer. It is meant to run on a
test machine. Warez or other pirated software is NOTORIOUSLY broken
or virus-infected.


Before you start criticizing Microsoft, get "legal" with them. If you
are NOT part of Microsoft's chosen and official Beta testers, you
currently have a PIRATED version of Vista, and this makes you a
CRIMINAL according to the Statutes of the United States.

Donald L McDaniel

Not true. Copyright infringement is a civil offence, not a criminal offence
in the USA. Also, this newsgroup is not a USA only newsgroup and other
countries have other laws concerning MS' rules.

Alias

 

[Donald L McDaniel]

Not true. Copyright infringement is a civil offence, not a criminal offence
in the USA. Also, this newsgroup is not a USA only newsgroup and other
countries have other laws concerning MS' rules.

Alias

Alias, possessing pirated software is NOT just a civil offense in the
United States, it is a CRIMINAL offense punishable under the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act with a penalty of time in Federal prison.

I think you are disagreeing with me just because I'm a Christian with
morals, and for no other reason.

Since I am in the United States, I always write as a United States
citizen, for United States citizens. Anyone with a lick of sense and
a reasonable command of the English language can see that. If I were
in Great Britain, for example, I would never write a public statement
warning others about the dangers of possessing pirated software, since
it is not a crime there, as far as I know.

On the otherhand, I also would not want to possess a beta product
unless the manufacturer of the beta gave it to me to test. This is
part of being a mature human being.

The reason Windows is so expensive today is because of greed; but NOT
on the part of Microsoft (both Bill Gates and Microsoft give BILLIONS
of those dollars away every year); rather, the ACTUAL greedy ones are
the software pirates, and casual copiers and crackers of Microsoft's
copyrighted software. Bill Gates is only trying to obtain a
reasonable return on Microsoft's investments of time and money in
creating its software, and give a return to the community which helped
make him rich.

Bill Gates has already proclaimed that he intended to give away the
majority of hisfortune by the time he retires, keeping only enough to
maintain his and his family's lifestyle.

The human conscience is strange: When we are young, we have few
morals and social limits, and think the world is our oyster. As we
grow older, we soon learn that our decisions sometime bite back.

Donald L McDaniel
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[Alias]

Alias, possessing pirated software is NOT just a civil offense in the
United States, it is a CRIMINAL offense punishable under the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act with a penalty of time in Federal prison.

I don't believe you. Prove it. How many possessors are in federal prison?

I think you are disagreeing with me just because I'm a Christian with
morals, and for no other reason.

Paranoid are you? Yes.

Since I am in the United States, I always write as a United States
citizen, for United States citizens.

How jingoistic of you.

Anyone with a lick of sense and
a reasonable command of the English language can see that.

My point.

If I were
in Great Britain, for example, I would never write a public statement
warning others about the dangers of possessing pirated software, since
it is not a crime there, as far as I know.

You are on the Internet, specifically Usenet which is international. Try to
keep that in mind the next time you post.

On the otherhand, I also would not want to possess a beta product
unless the manufacturer of the beta gave it to me to test. This is
part of being a mature human being.

You, of course, being the judge of what is mature and what isn't, right?

The reason Windows is so expensive today is because of greed; but NOT
on the part of Microsoft (both Bill Gates and Microsoft give BILLIONS
of those dollars away every year); rather, the ACTUAL greedy ones are
the software pirates, and casual copiers and crackers of Microsoft's
copyrighted software. Bill Gates is only trying to obtain a
reasonable return on Microsoft's investments of time and money in
creating its software, and give a return to the community which helped
make him rich.

Bill Gates has already proclaimed that he intended to give away the
majority of hisfortune by the time he retires, keeping only enough to
maintain his and his family's lifestyle.

The human conscience is strange: When we are young, we have few
morals and social limits, and think the world is our oyster. As we
grow older, we soon learn that our decisions sometime bite back.

Donald L McDaniel

Um, Billy boy made BILLIONS with Win 9x, NT and 2000. Your logic is impaired
and the ONLY thing that MS' lame piracy protections do is inconvenience the
paying customer, not the pirates so you were saying? And, please, say it
after you take you nose out of MS' ass.

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Alias, possessing pirated software is NOT just a civil offense in the
United States, it is a CRIMINAL offense punishable under the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act with a penalty of time in Federal prison.

I think you are disagreeing with me just because I'm a Christian with
morals, and for no other reason.

Since I am in the United States, I always write as a United States
citizen, for United States citizens. Anyone with a lick of sense and
a reasonable command of the English language can see that. If I were
in Great Britain, for example, I would never write a public statement
warning others about the dangers of possessing pirated software, since
it is not a crime there, as far as I know.

On the otherhand, I also would not want to possess a beta product
unless the manufacturer of the beta gave it to me to test. This is
part of being a mature human being.

The reason Windows is so expensive today is because of greed; but NOT
on the part of Microsoft (both Bill Gates and Microsoft give BILLIONS
of those dollars away every year); rather, the ACTUAL greedy ones are
the software pirates, and casual copiers and crackers of Microsoft's
copyrighted software. Bill Gates is only trying to obtain a
reasonable return on Microsoft's investments of time and money in
creating its software, and give a return to the community which helped
make him rich.

Bill Gates has already proclaimed that he intended to give away the
majority of hisfortune by the time he retires, keeping only enough to
maintain his and his family's lifestyle.

The human conscience is strange: When we are young, we have few
morals and social limits, and think the world is our oyster. As we
grow older, we soon learn that our decisions sometime bite back.

Quote the DMCA that says possessing one copy of pirated copyright
material is a criminal offense.

Put up or shut up.

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[Alias]

Quote the DMCA that says possessing one copy of pirated copyright material
is a criminal offense.

Put up or shut up.

He's gotta check with his god first.

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

He's gotta check with his god first.

Alias

LOL! Maybe he'll find it as a sign of the end times written in
Revelations!

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[Donald L McDaniel]

I don't believe you. Prove it. How many possessors are in federal prison?


Paranoid are you? Yes.


How jingoistic of you.


My point.


You are on the Internet, specifically Usenet which is international. Try to
keep that in mind the next time you post.

You, of course, being the judge of what is mature and what isn't, right?

Um, Billy boy made BILLIONS with Win 9x, NT and 2000. Your logic is impaired
and the ONLY thing that MS' lame piracy protections do is inconvenience the
paying customer, not the pirates so you were saying? And, please, say it
after you take you nose out of MS' ass.

Alias

Alias, I have never been inconvenienced by any of Microsoft's
policies, in the many years I have been using Microsoft products.

By the way, Mr. Gates has EVERY RIGHT to make billions of dollars,
just as you do if you are a US citizen (or even a EU citizen). You,
and others like you are just jealous of other's good fortune. You may
try to hide it, but it will always come out, eventually. YOU are the
greedy one, sir, not Bill Gates.

The Ten Commandments includes one pertaining to lusting after other's
property or riches. It reads, "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's
lands, house, money, goods, wife, daughter, or animals."

This commandment will NEVER lose its meaning through language games,
ALWAYS applying to ALL men and women EVERYWHERE, for ALL time, no
matter WHAT nationality they are, or religion (or irreligion) they
claim.

Donald L McDaniel
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[Alias]

Alias, I have never been inconvenienced by any of Microsoft's
policies, in the many years I have been using Microsoft products.

By the way, Mr. Gates has EVERY RIGHT to make billions of dollars,
just as you do if you are a US citizen (or even a EU citizen). You,
and others like you are just jealous of other's good fortune. You may
try to hide it, but it will always come out, eventually. YOU are the
greedy one, sir, not Bill Gates.

The Ten Commandments includes one pertaining to lusting after other's
property or riches. It reads, "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's
lands, house, money, goods, wife, daughter, or animals."

This commandment will NEVER lose its meaning through language games,
ALWAYS applying to ALL men and women EVERYWHERE, for ALL time, no
matter WHAT nationality they are, or religion (or irreligion) they
claim.

Donald L McDaniel

Heh. Not worth the trouble.

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Alias, I have never been inconvenienced by any of Microsoft's
policies, in the many years I have been using Microsoft products.

By the way, Mr. Gates has EVERY RIGHT to make billions of dollars,
just as you do if you are a US citizen (or even a EU citizen). You,
and others like you are just jealous of other's good fortune. You may
try to hide it, but it will always come out, eventually. YOU are the
greedy one, sir, not Bill Gates.

The Ten Commandments includes one pertaining to lusting after other's
property or riches. It reads, "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's
lands, house, money, goods, wife, daughter, or animals."

This commandment will NEVER lose its meaning through language games,
ALWAYS applying to ALL men and women EVERYWHERE, for ALL time, no
matter WHAT nationality they are, or religion (or irreligion) they
claim.

Not only are you being judgemental, you are also bearing false witness
as you have no idea what Alias "covets."

Is that how you witness your faith in your God by sinning?

Now go pray that these sins of yours be forgiven, but since you keep
repeating them and show no remorse over them, I doubt your god will
believe you are truly repentant!

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[Greg Ro]

Alias, possessing pirated software is NOT just a civil offense in the
United States, it is a CRIMINAL offense punishable under the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act with a penalty of time in Federal prison.

I disagree. If I bought an incorrectly sold copy of any software. I
still have the right to use it. Especially if I paid money for it.

What if receive software that you think is legit but it turns out to
be pirated but the company is no longer in business. So you can't buy
a legit copy?

You forgot the EFF challenged some of the DMCA and the electronic
freedom foundation and won. Some of those rules don't apply now.


Greg Ro