How to turn off ICS in windows XP

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Vern

We had two computers sharing files and an Internet
connection using ICS on computer no 1 and then decided to
change to using a D-Link router. After hooking it up,
configuring the router and running the Internet
connection wizard everthing seemed to be working at
first - but then we found that computer no 1, which was
acting as the gateway before, started loosing Internet
access (DNS lookup anyway) after an hour or two and
required rebooting to get it back. Number 2 computer is
working fine and no. 1 computer didn't have this problem
before.

I then checked Control Panel - Network Connections and
noticed there are 3 sections: Dialup, Internet Gateway,
and Lan. I'm asuming the Internet connection listed in
Internet Gateway section is the ICS software Gateway.

Anyway the way you are supposed to be able to turn off
ICS is to select the LAN card, click change settings -
then the Advanced tab and take the check out of Share
this connection. The problem is the "Share this
connection" section is not even there (I have seen it on
other computers) The Internet Firewall section is there.

Is there another way to turn off ICS or some other
solution this problem???

Thanks for any ideas you have. Vern
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

"Vern" said:
We had two computers sharing files and an Internet
connection using ICS on computer no 1 and then decided to
change to using a D-Link router. After hooking it up,
configuring the router and running the Internet
connection wizard everthing seemed to be working at
first - but then we found that computer no 1, which was
acting as the gateway before, started loosing Internet
access (DNS lookup anyway) after an hour or two and
required rebooting to get it back. Number 2 computer is
working fine and no. 1 computer didn't have this problem
before.

I then checked Control Panel - Network Connections and
noticed there are 3 sections: Dialup, Internet Gateway,
and Lan. I'm asuming the Internet connection listed in
Internet Gateway section is the ICS software Gateway.

Anyway the way you are supposed to be able to turn off
ICS is to select the LAN card, click change settings -
then the Advanced tab and take the check out of Share
this connection. The problem is the "Share this
connection" section is not even there (I have seen it on
other computers) The Internet Firewall section is there.

Is there another way to turn off ICS or some other
solution this problem???

Thanks for any ideas you have. Vern

The connection in the Internet Gateway section is your router, not
ICS. Clicking that icon lets you monitor and control the router's
operation. I've written a web page with details:

XP ICS - Internet Gateway
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/internetgateway.htm

There's no ICS option on your LAN connection because it's the only
Ethernet connection on the computer. Sharing an Ethernet connection
requires at least one additional Ethernet connection beyond the shared
one.

I'm sorry, but I don't know the solution to the DNS lookup problem.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
G

Guest

Thanks Steve, your reply clears things up quite bit. It's
possible the no 1 computer's problems are related to
something else.

I'm still puzzled by the fact that I have experience with
serveral computers (about 10) running XP, connected to
routers to share files and Internet access and this is
the first time I've seen or heard of XP's Interent
Gateway. The no. 2 computer on this router didn't get an
XP Internet Gateway and we ran the connection wizard on
it also to for example.

It sounds like your saying the XP gateway shouldn't be a
problem when a computer is accessing other computers and
the Internet through a hardware router.

I did go over your info page and will review it again.

Anyway, thanks again and if you have anymore thoughts on
this subject,send them along.

Tahnks, Vern

-----Original Message-----
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

Thanks Steve, your reply clears things up quite bit. It's
possible the no 1 computer's problems are related to
something else.

I'm still puzzled by the fact that I have experience with
serveral computers (about 10) running XP, connected to
routers to share files and Internet access and this is
the first time I've seen or heard of XP's Interent
Gateway. The no. 2 computer on this router didn't get an
XP Internet Gateway and we ran the connection wizard on
it also to for example.

It sounds like your saying the XP gateway shouldn't be a
problem when a computer is accessing other computers and
the Internet through a hardware router.

I did go over your info page and will review it again.

Anyway, thanks again and if you have anymore thoughts on
this subject,send them along.

Tahnks, Vern

You're welcome, Vern.

The Internet Gateway icon/connection should have nothing to do with
accessing other computers or accessing the Internet.

I've found the Internet Gateway to be somewhat elusive -- I can't
always get it to appear on an XP computer, even when it seems to be
properly configured. Here are some things that should help:

1. Make sure that the "SSDP Discovery Service" is running:

a. Right click My Computer, and click Manage.
b. Double click Services and Applications.
c. Double click Services.
d. Double click "SSDP Discovery Service". If the Service status is
Stopped, click Start.
e. If the Startup type is Disabled, set it to Manual.

2. Make sure that the "Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control
Client" networking service is installed:

a. Click Control Panel | Add or Remove Programs.
b. Click "Add/Remove Windows Components".
c. Scroll down the list of components and double click "Networking
Services".
d. If there's a box for "Internet Gateway Device Discovery and
Control Client", put a check mark in it.

You might need to reboot or to disable and enable the network
connection to make changes take effect.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
G

Guest

One quick followup on this topic. Sounds like XP's
Inernet Gateway might be kind of a work in progress at
Microsoft as it is inconsistant about appearing on
different computers.

Also I'm still a little suspecious of it (XP's Inernet
Gateway) because using Google searches, I did find 3
other people that thought that the appearence of the
Internet Gateway messed up their connectivity and one of
these people has the exact same symtoms as we have -
rebooting fixes it for a period of time from 15 minutes
to 3 or 4 hours.

Just in case what is the best way to get rid of it if
need be?

Thanks again, Vern
 
K

Ken Wickes [MSFT]

It really does work fine. However it is very sensitive to firewalls or
other networking software. Many networking products don't handle multicast
well as it is not in widespread use. Also some routers don't implement the
protocol 100% correct.

It will not screw up your connectivity, at least for IE. Some programs like
Messenger read data from the gateway and could perform incorrectly if you
have a rouge gateway.

Unchecking the box in Optional Components is the best way to disable it.
 
G

Guest

Thanks for the added information and a method to shut off
the XP Internet Gateway. We will likely try turning it
off to see if our problem goes away (if we don't find
another cause). I'll post again if turning it off solves
the problem as it would be interesting to figure out why.

Thanks, Vern

-----Original Message-----
It really does work fine. However it is very sensitive to firewalls or
other networking software. Many networking products don't handle multicast
well as it is not in widespread use. Also some routers don't implement the
protocol 100% correct.

It will not screw up your connectivity, at least for IE. Some programs like
Messenger read data from the gateway and could perform incorrectly if you
have a rouge gateway.

Unchecking the box in Optional Components is the best way to disable it.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


One quick followup on this topic. Sounds like XP's
Inernet Gateway might be kind of a work in progress at
Microsoft as it is inconsistant about appearing on
different computers.

Also I'm still a little suspecious of it (XP's Inernet
Gateway) because using Google searches, I did find 3
other people that thought that the appearence of the
Internet Gateway messed up their connectivity and one of
these people has the exact same symtoms as we have -
rebooting fixes it for a period of time from 15 minutes
to 3 or 4 hours.

Just in case what is the best way to get rid of it if
need be?

Thanks again, Vern

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router, not control
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to do with elusive --
I can't it
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