How to flash P/I - P55T2P4 ?

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sigmun

How do I flash P/I - P55T2P4 motherboard to bios 0207 ?

I can't find bios flash utility in Asus site regarding to this motherboard.

thanks in advance
 
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Torben Birk Christensen

Hi there

It's nostalgia that people still want to upgrade this fabolous motherboard.
My own have
been running still since oct. 1996. This mobo will never cease to work.
I recommend that you use the newest unofficial BIOS-file which includes Jan
Steunebrink's patch for AMD K6-2+ and K6-III+ support and patch for HDD up
to 128GB (32GB bugfix) by Jan Hill:
http://home.hccnet.nl/j.steunebrink/0207_j2.zip

I also uploaded my copy of the flash-utility:
http://home6.inet.tele.dk/tbirk/filer/PFLASH2.zip

I hope you'll enjoy a new and better working P55T2P4-mobo

Torben Birk
Denmark
 
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Stephan Grossklass

sigmun said:
How do I flash P/I - P55T2P4 motherboard to bios 0207 ?

I can't find bios flash utility in Asus site regarding to this motherboard.

ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIOS/BIOS_FLASH_UTILS/DOS/

Stephan
 
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sigmun

Torben Birk Christensen said:
Visit Kalle's homepage for excellent information of the P55T2P4-motherboard.
http://jump.net/~lcs/kalle/

Thanks, Torben

I flashed my bios using the files you said

I have a Pentium 166 CPU, which processors does this board accept more
advanced than this one ?
 
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Dave

I have one with a Pentium 233 installed that I retired and will probably get
rid of.
later,
dave
 
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Torben Birk Christensen

I recommend to visit Kalle's site for full information.
Kalle's site seems to be frequently unreachable - so I have cut out the
proper information upon CPUs:

CPU

general:

You need a socket 7 or a super socket 7 CPU. (Of course old socket 5 CPU's
still work, too. :)
Check the core voltage that is required. (AMD prints it on the top of the
CPU)
Check that you can reach the desired speed with a FSB of 66MHz (or 75 or 83
if you like to overclock) with a multiplier suported by the CPU!
If it's a new kind of CPU (and NOT just more MHz) it may not be
initialisized optimal by the BIOS. Find out if there a new BIOS or a setup
program or how many performance you loose without proper setup?

Example : You replace your old P133 with a K6-2-400 and you still use BIOS
205.
best : Use BIOS 207 beta 2
second best : Use set K6V2
last but not least : You gained a performace boost of more than 300% with
the upgrade, so you realy don't care about the 5% you loose without proper
initialisation!


AMD:

All AMD K5 CPU's are fully supported.

K6-166 , K6-200, K6-233 are fully supported.
Most K6-233 run fine at 2.9V without a problem. If yours doesn't look here
how to get 3.2 volt

You can use the K6-266 & K6-300 &K6-2-266 & K6-2-300 without modification if
you use higher Bus speeds.

All the K6-266 & K6-300 & K6-II-266 & K6-II-300 & K6-II-333 are fully
supported when you add the BF2 jumper.

All K6-II faster than 350 have the CXT core. (and some 350er and slower,
too!)

The CXT (Chomper eXtended Technologie) has little changes in the cache
architecture so it needs a different initialisation to work at full speed.
BIOS 207 BETA 2 will set it up correctly. If you use an older BIOS you will
lose few % performance.

But instead of the proper BIOS you also can use setK6V2.exe or setK6V3.exe
(freeware) from ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/setk6v3.zip to correctly
initialisize your K6-II with CXT core. (V3 has been reported to cause
problems :-(
Also CPU Idle (now shareware, I have still the freeware version :) (and
another program from the same author) are mentioned to be able to do this,
too. http://cpuidle.home.pages.de/

K6-II-366 need the BF2 jumper!

I expect the K6-II-380 to be the same as a 400er.

K6-II-400 also 'likes' proper setup by BIOS or SET K6, but don't need the
BF2 trick!
K6-II-450 and 500 also 'like' proper setup by BIOS or SET K6, don't need the
BF2 trick but NEED overcloking of the FSB!

Since the CXT core was invented to make the onchip L2 cache of K6-III
possible I realy recomand to use BIOS #207 BETA 2 (or setK6), or a lot of
it's speed benefit may fade away!

K6-III-400 'needs' proper setup by BIOS or SET K6, but don't need the BF2
trick!
K6-III-450 and 500 'need' proper setup by BIOS or SET K6, don't need the BF2
trick but need overcloking of the FSB!

The K6-III now comes in two versions : 2.4V and 2.2V. The 2.2V type consumes
round about 30% less power, or to say it in a just more dramatic way: The
2.4V type consumes 50% more power than the 2.2V type.
So if you are able to get the cool 2.2V type, get it!

BTW: Just because I don't mention the K6 2+ it don't mean it wouldn'd run on
T2P4. It's just, that they aren't out now, and I haven't searched for
information about them. (So read my page and read AMD's info about K6 2+
requirements and see if T2P4 can fullfill them :)

I seriously recomand to use extra cooling of the voltage regulators when
using something faster than 400 and for 2.4V CPU's !

Remember: Do yourself and your AMD a favor and spend $10 more and buy a big
quality heat sink!

BTW: The K6-2-400 and the K6-III-400 were intended by AMD to run at 4 x
100MHz or at 6 x 66MHz!
Since 100MHz is faster they perform better at 100MHz of course, but the
difference is not thaaaat big!
Especialy with the K6-III the difference is very smal!
So anybody telling you K6-2-400 or K6-III-400 'need' 100MHz, or SDRAM or
super socket 7 etc dosen't know what he's talking about!

If you you use any K6 faster than 333MHz with WIN95 you will get one of the
following errors on most startups:
- Device IOS failed to initialize. Windows Protection Error. You must reboot
your computer.
- Windows Protection Error. You must reboot your computer.

There is a patch avaible for WIN95 OSR2 also called WIN95b (4.00.950b)
There is no hope for old WIN95 (4.00.950) even not with service pack
(4.00.950a).
One of the few good things about WIN98 is, that it don't need a patch for
fast K6! :)
Look at the control pannel which version you have. (4.00.950?)

Follow http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/k623d/win95_update_k6.html to the
Mickysoft page with the update.

BTW: This is not a compatiblity problem of AMD, but a problem of careless
programing by Mickysoft. It is caused by a timer overflow in a timing loop
and can also happen in faster P III or whatever faster CPU!
 
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Ronald Cole

Dave said:
I have one with a Pentium 233 installed that I retired and will probably get
rid of.

I bought a 233 because I was under the impression that it was going to
be the fastest Pentium Intel was going to make. Then, under my radar,
they quickly and quietly released 266 and 300 versions. I hold out
hope that I can get my hands on a Pentium 300 one day for this board.
 
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Dave

well that just goes to show what I don't know. lol
I also thought that the Intel Pentium 233 was the fastest for this board
too!
good luck in your search. ;-)
later,
dave
 
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Max Attar Feingold

I bought a 233 because I was under the impression that it was going to
be the fastest Pentium Intel was going to make. Then, under my radar,
they quickly and quietly released 266 and 300 versions. I hold out
hope that I can get my hands on a Pentium 300 one day for this board.

Pentiums > 233 MHz are only for laptops. I don't believe Intel chips at
these speeds were ever released for Socket 7.

You should look into getting a K6-III 450MHz instead.

Max Attar Feingold
maf6 at cornell dot edu
http://almonaster.sourceforge.net/mfeingol/

Not speaking for my employer
 
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Pat Patterson

I've got a system running a K6-III+ 500 that does a really good job...

Pat

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Torben Birk Christensen

I've got one system running the K6-III @ 450Mhz (6x75). And it has been
running rock stabil (35-49°C). It's the ultimate processor for the P55T2P4
motherboard. No doubt about that.
You should go for the processor with 2.2 core volts - then there should be
no heat-problems runnnig with a overclocked FSB at 83 MhZ.

I could only get a 2.4 volts processor (march 2000). I don't know if it is
possible to get this processor from any commercial stock holder anymore -
but if you get lucky - be aware of that there were actually 4 different
models of the K6-III floating around the marked:

a.. 400MHz 2.2v at 60C AHX
a.. 450MHz 2.4v at 60C AHX
a.. 450MHz 2.2v at 65C AFX
a.. 450MHz 2.2v at 70C AFR

Obviously the AFR 450MHz chip, rated for 70C at 2.2v, is the top choice for
any K6-III as it will run cooler than any of the others at the default speed
while consuming less power. It is also my belief that the 400MHz 2.2v chip
and the 450MHz 2.4v chip are identical, as the voltage is raised on the
first series of 450MHz K6-IIIs. Basically, a 400MHz 2.2v K6-III should be
able to clock to whatever the 2.4v AHX 450 can.

Cheers

Torben Birk
Denmark
 
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sigmun

This board is impressive, mine is a rev 3.01

I only have to complain about RTC chip, that is difficult to change when
died, and some components like 64MB EDO RAM sticks and AT PSU over 200W,
which is very hard to find.

I'm a owner of a recent ASUS A7N8X, and definitely I will not buy a
motherboard other than ASUS
 
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Paul

"sigmun" said:
This board is impressive, mine is a rev 3.01

I only have to complain about RTC chip, that is difficult to change when
died, and some components like 64MB EDO RAM sticks and AT PSU over 200W,
which is very hard to find.

I'm a owner of a recent ASUS A7N8X, and definitely I will not buy a
motherboard other than ASUS

For an AT PSU, check the "slim" entries on this page. There is a
230W, a 300W, and a 400W with the same dimensions:

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/prices/

Verify the dimensions and location of drilled holes, before buying.

Paul
 
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MasterBlaster

This board is impressive, mine is a rev 3.01

I only have to complain about RTC chip, that is difficult to change when
died

Speaking of which, does anyone know for sure if any Dallas RTC chips
are compatible with the Odin OEC12B887A on mine? I can't find diddly
info on it, just the odd reference to OEC12C887 and OEC12C887A.
It's like the "B" version doesn't exist.

I have some Dallas 1287, 12887, 12B887 and 12887A chips, and I've done the
"grind-and-solder" trick to attach an external battery to a Houston Tech, but if
Odin's battery ever dies and needs the same treatment, it would be nice to
have a "backup" plan in case something goes horribly wrong.
 
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Claude

Torben Birk Christensen said:
I've got one system running the K6-III @ 450Mhz (6x75). And it has been
running rock stabil (35-49°C). It's the ultimate processor for the P55T2P4
motherboard. No doubt about that.
You should go for the processor with 2.2 core volts - then there should be
no heat-problems runnnig with a overclocked FSB at 83 MhZ.

I could only get a 2.4 volts processor (march 2000). I don't know if it is
possible to get this processor from any commercial stock holder anymore -
but if you get lucky - be aware of that there were actually 4 different
models of the K6-III floating around the marked:

a.. 400MHz 2.2v at 60C AHX
a.. 450MHz 2.4v at 60C AHX
a.. 450MHz 2.2v at 65C AFX
a.. 450MHz 2.2v at 70C AFR

Obviously the AFR 450MHz chip, rated for 70C at 2.2v, is the top choice for
any K6-III as it will run cooler than any of the others at the default speed
while consuming less power. It is also my belief that the 400MHz 2.2v chip
and the 450MHz 2.4v chip are identical, as the voltage is raised on the
first series of 450MHz K6-IIIs. Basically, a 400MHz 2.2v K6-III should be
able to clock to whatever the 2.4v AHX 450 can.

Cheers

Torben Birk
Denmark

You can also find some K6-III+ 450MHz 2.0V at 85C ACZ

Claude
 

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