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Change your boot sequence to the new hard drive (in bios setup), boot in safe mode (F8), with the xp cd loaded, select setup!
Rod, a question for you:Rod Speed said:OK, havent gotten around to trying xxclone myself yet,
or that other effect that Larry mentioned, that the order
of the drive numbers as seen in XP can make a difference
to whether a clone without removing the original for the
first boot after clone has been done makes a difference.
Rod, a question for you:
Lets say a user had used Automated Aystem Recovery to
backup all files to a separate disk then replaced his old HD with
a new one only to discover that he was unable to start windows
until he had done a repair install because of WPA problems.
He does the repair install to find that now he's in a situation
where his computer starts, but certain progs/apps don't run
properly and all his startup progs are no longer there,
but he is able to get access to the disk that has the ASR backup on.
Do you think that using the ASR from within windows would restore
his new hard drive to the same state as his previous old one was?
Or is it possible that the WPA error would
rear its ugly head during the next restart?
Probably didn't quite explain that right. All startup references are noRod Speed said:message
That shouldnt have happened and I'd
concentrate on looking at why that happened.
Not my computer. A downstairs neighbour's that I am having a pig of aI'd be very surprised if it could do that, tho I havent actually tried it.
I doubt it. But again, I havent actually tried it.
I dont use versions that need activation myself.
Thats only half of what you originally said.
Thats even odder. A repair of XP shouldnt have affected Office.
OK, it would be worth checking tho.
Where did you initiate that ?
Hehe, yeah he's a real pain in the butt. Is forever chatting 'up' onI'd give him a good kicking and force him
to get his act into gear if it was me |-)
Well, it wouldn't login to windows at all because of WPA and so I 'had'Yeah, it certainly can.
Cant you just reactivate it ?
Yeah, thats the best approach, resolve the
instability problem before trying to clone the drive.
Yep, that does eliminate one possibility if it finds no errors.
I'd personally do something about that before doing anything
else. At least write the stuff thats irreplaceable to multiple
CDs, even if I had to run out and buy a burner to do that.
I dont end up in court myself.
[when the computer was turning itself off and the processor fan was still running]
I can't turn everything off and
on again by the front button;
What have you told XP to do with
that button ? Thats in Power Options.
Yeah, its certainly a more known quantity
since its been around for much longer.
Its a bit of a handful. If you dont find it obvious to
use, try Ghost 2003.
- Nehmo -
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
I downloaded that but it requires a floppy. Believe it or not, I don't
have one here. I could get one, but I can't wait any longer. I ran the
Windows utility, Check Disk (C drive Properties > Tools tab > Check Now
button), and everything checked out okay.
- Nehmo -
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
Somehow the system isn't turning off anymore.
I don't know what I did, if I did anything.
I posted in another NG http://www.ericseven.com?id=1332 , and
Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers suggested the BIOS battery may be low. Could be.
The cold might have had something to do with it too.
Anyway, power management seems to be working normally now,
and I'm ready to try installing the HD again.
- Nehmo -
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
I downloaded that but it requires a floppy.
Believe it or not, I don't have one here.
I could get one, but I can't wait any longer. I ran the
Windows utility, Check Disk (C drive Properties > Tools tab
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
I realize caution advocates for a back
up, but that would be another delay.
- Nehmo -[when the computer was turning itself off
and the processor fan was still running]
I can't turn everything off and
on again by the front button;
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
In Power Options Properties, I have it set to "Shut down".
It didn't have any effect when the system had that problem.
- Nehmo -
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
I bought another $17 (counting tax) one at Office Max,
a Bellkin Ultra ATA Hard Drive Round Cable
http://www.ericseven.com?id=1333
it has the nice feature of "Quick-pull tabs for separating
connector and drive" The old cable is probably still good though.
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
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- Nehmo -
Correct, I didn't find Ghost Enterprise Edition obvious to use
(I thought it was the Ghost you everybody was talking about).
I have it installed all right, but it comes in five parts: AI Builder;
Ghost Explorer; Ghost boot Wizard; License Auditing Utility; and
Multicast Server. Ghost Boot Wizard seems to be the one I should
use, but Help doesn't really explain how to get a new HD bootable.
XXCLONE, on the other hand, is obvious
to use. A pity it didn't work completely.
You can't have everything
I'm at this moment downloading a different Ghost program
via eMule CB3C9D282E4254E3C402A9FC57760BDE ;
it's titled Norton Ghost 2003. I hope it's the real thing.
Dont try anything dangerous to your
data given that you arent backed up.
I believe it. Many dont bother with them anymore.
There is also an ISO that you can burn a CD from,
but you obviously need a CD burner to do that.
That doesnt even check memory at all.
Urk, I dont use round cables myself. They flout the ATA standard.
Nar most use whats usually called Ghost Personal or just Ghost 2003.
manual.Ghost 2003 is much better, both with the user interface and the
I now have Norton Ghost 2003 v 2003.789 .
It seems all I need to do is .
Physically install the disk old=master & new=slave
(jumper configuration and position) on the same ATA cable
Format the new HD via right click on My Computer > Manage > etc.
Start Ghost 2003 > Advanced > Clone > follow wizard
Shut down > Change jumper so new=master configuration and change
cable position so that new=master, keep old HD unattached
Start and let the computer boot form the new disk
If everything works at this point, then
Shut down > reattach old disk with slave jumper
configuration and slave position on cable.
That's my plan.
That'd normally work fine.
You have been dancing on those graves tho...
Now the drive doesn't show up at all. It doesn't show up
in that BIOS screen that pops up before Windows starts,
and it doesn't show up anywhere else either.
I tried replacing the new Belkin round cable with
the Maxtor-provided ATA cable, but still nothing.
Naturally, I made sure the cables were securely attached.
I can feel the motor running so it must be getting power.
The Maxtor literature says with certain BIOS types, you have
to set it to highlight the IDE/HDD hard drives options and press
Enter. I don't see such an option in my BIOS, and anyway,
I didn't need to do that the other times I installed this drive.
Other than not recognizing the new HD, the computer is working fine.
Right now, I'm thinking I should take it back to Best Buy
and replace it with a different brand. It's still under 14 days.
That'd normally be due to either the jumpering being
wrong or no AUTO drive type in the cmos drive table.
The new cable should be a cable select cable,
so just jumper the drives as cable select and
make sure you do have the motherboard end of
the cable plugged into the motherboard connector.
Dave said:"Copy of an XP system from one volume to another volume as another bootable
XP system."
http://perso.numericable.fr/~gjullien/copy_xp.htm
"Main difficulty:
Each disk has a signature (written on the disk) and each volume has an
identifier (written on the volume, specific to the disk and the volume). The
registry assigns letters to identifiers (at install or when a new disk is
added)."
Nehmo Sergheyev said:When I get to step 5, starting up again, I get, "Error loading OS".
I don't see a place in the BIOS to identify where the OS is.
I tried booting with only the new connected (I neglected to do this on
the first boot, but the instructions don't direct you to do that), but
the OS still didn't load. I now have retuned the jumpers cable positions
back to...
Old=master primary
New=salve, secondary
The computer works this way, but the OS is still coming from the old
drive. I sent Seagate an email.
Nehmo Sergheyev said:- Nehmo -
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
I took the Maxtor drive back to Best Buy, and with an additional $10, I
replaced it with a Seagate ST380013A-RK, which is also an 80GB but has
larger, 8 MB, cache (rather than the 5 MB of the Maxtor).
DiscWizard is Seagate's copying program.
I followed instructions. They tell you to reconfigure the jumpers and
positions of the drives on the cable, after DiscWizard has copied the
old disk to the new.
http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/use_dw2002.html
"As the Boot drive keeping the old drive in the system
...
2. DiscWizard will now partition, format, and copy all your files from
the old drive to the new one. Additionally a Custom Installation Manual
will be created.
3. DiscWizard will give you an opportunity to print the manual on the
next screen. This manual contains detailed instructions on how to make
the new drive the master and the old drive the slave, follow them
closely. Make your selection and click next to proceed.
4. DiscWizard will now turn off your computer. Make the changes outlined
in the Custom Installation Manual and restart your computer.
5. Your computer will now boot to the new drive. Both drives are ready
for use. "
When I get to step 5, starting up again, I get, "Error loading OS".
I don't see a place in the BIOS to identify where the OS is.
I tried booting with only the new connected (I neglected to do this on
the first boot, but the instructions don't direct you to do that), but
the OS still didn't load. I now have retuned the jumpers cable positions
back to...
Old=master primary
New=salve, secondary
The computer works this way, but the OS is still coming from the old
drive. I sent Seagate an email.
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