How many advanced users like vista?

[Robert Moir]

If you have all the above traits... please tell me... do you REALLY
like vista?
If you do or do not please give me the reasons...

No I'm not a fan. I've had no end of problems with things like explorer
functioning correctly on a network, and I'm really not sure it adds much
value over XP at the moment.

That said, Dustin Harper's point about some of the more hysterical screaming
being the same as what we heard around the time XP was launched is very well
made. Anyone who frequented the XP groups when it was first launched must
feel the same I do about most of the stuff in the Vista NGs - Deja Vu all
over again! Give it a few months for drivers to become available, for the
worst bugs to get nailed and for vendors to produce vista upgrades of their
applications and things will get better.

 

[Robert Moir]

Anybody who has fulfilled your criteria for an advanced user will of
course be old jaded and cynical, and as a result they won't say
WOW but HMMM....

I said "meh". I don't think _any_ operating system has made me say "Wow" and
I don't expect that to change. An operating system is simply part of a
computer user's toolkit and I'm not that impressed by screwdrivers or even
power drills no matter how shiny they are. Show me something impressive that
was built with those tools then I might say "Wow".

 

[Non-entity]

Another peave i have is on explorer, there are no copy and move file
buttons, this is hugely aggravating. There are a lot of people out there,
who
are not comfortable dragging and dropping files across the directory
structure. And a LOT of files get dropped in the wrong folder by accident
using this method. I'm kind of amazed they missed this. It would be pretty
damn simply to fix.
jf

I have no idea why MS tried so hard to "streamline" the window formerly
known as Explorer. But at least if you click on Organize, then Layout, then
click on "Menu Bar" it will reappear, and stay there. I guess people in
focus groups must make these decisions just to make things different...

Bill Halvorsen

 

[thetruthhurts]

How many advanced users like Vista? I am really curious...

You only qualify as an advanced user if:

1) You have installed and used all versions of windows from 3.1 upward
2) You have tried more than 10 different versions of Linux
3) You have used Mac OS
4) You have multibooted 3 OS and up on the same computer
5) You have had at any time 2 or more screens connected with your computer
6) You like power yet you strive to simplify things as much as possible
7) You use virtual machines to test OS and software
8) You know how to control your computer without a mouse using only a
keyboard
9) You prefer performance over eye candy although you may like eye candy..
if it slows down your computer you disable it
10) You can see a list of processes at any time that are running on you
computer and determine if something should not be there.
11) You have never failed to fix a computer with a problem.
12) You strive to learn more each day, and you are open to new ideas

If you have all the above traits... please tell me... do you REALLY like
vista?
If you do or do not please give me the reasons...

thanks

For a new PC it rocks. Like other Windows releases, people upgrading
typically get ****ed due to missing drivers and not enough memory.
People who upgrade an exisiting PC to Vista are doing so because they
want to as opposed to need to. When you consider the cost of Vista,
you are almost better off buying a new PC anyway.

 

[JoRene]

With a list like that, you might get one or two people that qualify! 10
different versions of Linux! I'm a pretty advanced user (though I never
installed ME), and haven't made a final decision on Vista. So far, there is
nothing compelling and too many driver problems to rate it highly. I do
like a few things, especially being able to type my application name in the
start menu, but I'm sure there are utiltities that do similar things in XP.
At this point, I would not spend money on it, but will try the express
upgrade I have coming sometime in what is looking to be the distant future.

 

[Lang Murphy]

I fail to meet 2, 4, and 5, so I guess I can't respond.

Lang

 

[Rod]

How many advanced users like Vista? I am really curious...

You only qualify as an advanced user if:

1) You have installed and used all versions of windows from 3.1 upward
2) You have tried more than 10 different versions of Linux
3) You have used Mac OS
4) You have multibooted 3 OS and up on the same computer
5) You have had at any time 2 or more screens connected with your computer
6) You like power yet you strive to simplify things as much as possible
7) You use virtual machines to test OS and software
8) You know how to control your computer without a mouse using only a
keyboard
9) You prefer performance over eye candy although you may like eye candy..
if it slows down your computer you disable it
10) You can see a list of processes at any time that are running on you
computer and determine if something should not be there.
11) You have never failed to fix a computer with a problem.
12) You strive to learn more each day, and you are open to new ideas

If you have all the above traits... please tell me... do you REALLY like
vista?
If you do or do not please give me the reasons...

Geez, I actually meet all 12 of your criteria and somehow that makes
me slightly sad. I can perhaps add an addendum on 11 and suggest that
there are several problems I've been unable to fix (I fix high end
servers for a large vendor) that had to be escalated to engineering
to resolve.

However, I've got 4 OS's to boot in on this machine (several on the
other an 11 VM images within VMWare) and I like Vista. Don't know what
that means but there's an answer to your question.

Belittle me away.

Cheers,
Rod.

 

[Rod]

I fail to meet 2, 4, and 5, so I guess I can't respond.

Want a job?

Cheers,
Rod.

 

[Ron Jon]

I can hold my hand up to 50% of this but I Have a BSc/MSc in Computer
Science, MS-MCSE Cisco CCNP and Checkpoint-CCSE and also Teach Computer
Science part time...so I think I qualify ;-)

I Like Vista

 

[Fearful]

I meet all of those except No. 2 (which is a little extreme), for what it's
worth though - I like Vista.

 

[Lang Murphy]

LOL... yeah, make me an offer I can't refuse... ;-P

Lang

 

[Richard S. Rattanni]

I love Vista. The first Version of Windows I installed was Windows 2.0 and
I remember thinking how bad the product was. Berkely's GEOS was much better
at the time. Vista will probably mature gracefully. I'm glad to see the
Voice recognition as part of the core, the search feature is top notch too
once you get used to the indexing of the drive whcih is highly tweakable for
performance. The new Internet Mail is almost worth switching for. The
directory structure makes more sense than previous versions of Windows..
Vista isn't for everyone though. My trusty Logitech camera won't work and
Quickbooks 2005 and versions prior to it don't work. Just another example
of how a new operating system is good for the entire industry, both software
and hardware manufactureres. The AERO interface seems useless to me now
but maybe in another year I'll even like that.

 

[Geta Klew]

You've probably touched on the "real" reason manufacturers are in no hurry
to create Vista drivers for old hardware. They prefer you buy new hardware
because they don't make any money when you just download new drivers.

You're right about Vista being a major improvement though. Once you get past
the unrealistic expectations and arbitrary beliefs about it looking and
acting like XP, (and once you get your stuff working), there's no doubt it's
a much-needed giant step forward. WinFS will the some nice icing on the
cake.

(Mac OS and Linux people, don't bother posting any boring stuff about those.
It's not that we don't know that they exist. It's that they're not an
appropriate plaform for how we use our computers.)

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

Perhaps you're right about the reason for delays in coming
out with Vista drivers for existing products. At some point,
though, the manufacturer is risking that the customer gets so
pissed off that the customer starts buying from a competitor.

Gary VanderMolen

 

[Barry]

Let me take advantage of your knowledge then. I do a lot of wildlife photo
work with high end digital SLRs. In the past, I could open large files with
the Windows Photo Editor and used it for a quick opening program. I used
Photoshop CS2 to open only those photos that I wanted to work with. That
was all in Windows XP. Now that I have a new computer with Vista, I find
that the Windows Photo Editor that comes with Vista will not open images
that are high resolution and gives me an error message that it can't open
the file. I've found that it's completely related to the file size (i.e.
anything above about a 3mb image or thereabouts). Why won't Vista open such
an image (standard .jpg but high resolution) when I could open it with XP?
Not a big deal...as I now use Photoshop CS2 as the default program for the
high resolution images...but I'm wondering why the problem exists in Vista?
Especially when it did not with XP. My local computer shop verified that
problem with Vista but can't explain why it's a problem.

Vista has a lot of nice bells and whistles...but the learning curve is a bit
different for me than XP...which seemed much easier to transition to.

Thanks
Barry