How do I prevent Windows XP Pro Users (children) from making chang

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I have Windows XP Pro installed and have user accounts for two of my
children. I've found in the past that they are installing software and
making unwanted changes to the system. For instance, they installed AOL,
changed the system language from English to Spanish, and have downloaded
files without my permission.

Basically, I want to restrict them to using MS Office 2003, Internet
Explorer, MS Encarta, games, and some accessories. How can I set up Windows
and/or these other programs to prevent software installation, access to other
software programs I installed, downloading, and system changes?
 
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Malke

Peter said:
I have Windows XP Pro installed and have user accounts for two of my
children. I've found in the past that they are installing software
and
making unwanted changes to the system. For instance, they installed
AOL, changed the system language from English to Spanish, and have
downloaded files without my permission.

Basically, I want to restrict them to using MS Office 2003, Internet
Explorer, MS Encarta, games, and some accessories. How can I set up
Windows and/or these other programs to prevent software installation,
access to other software programs I installed, downloading, and system
changes?

Since you have XP Pro, you can create very fine-grained permissions
using the Group Policy Editor. For questions about group policy, post
here: microsoft.public.windows.group_policy

If the intricacies of Group Policy seem too difficult, look at the MS
Shared Computer Toolkit:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sharedaccess/default.mspx

You could also make some of these suggested changes:

1. Set a password in the BIOS that must be entered before booting the
operating system. Also set the Supervisor password in the BIOS so BIOS
Setup can't be entered without it.
2. From the BIOS, change the boot order to hard drive first.
3. Set strong passwords on all accounts, including the built-in
Administrator account.
4. If you leave your own account logged in, use the Windows Key + L to
lock the computer (and/or set the screensaver/power saving) when you
step away from the computer and require a password to resume.
5. Make other users accounts non-privileged (users on Pro, Limited on
Home).

Please understand that these are technical responses to what is
basically a non-technical problem. This is a family/interpersonal issue
that can't be solved by technical means. Remember, you are the parent
and they are the children.

Malke
 
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mikkl

Basically, I want to restrict them to using MS Office 2003, Internet
Explorer, MS Encarta, games, and some accessories. How can I set up Windows
and/or these other programs to prevent software installation, access to other
software programs I installed, downloading, and system changes?

Panda_man has some good advice in his document.

Fundamentally, set up multiple user accounts and give the children accounts
that are set for Limited access. This will prevent most of what you are
looking to control. Please note, running as limited can cause some games
to have headaches either because they need to access configuration files in
their parent directory or need to write to the registry on the first run.

There are two ways (that I know of) to handle the configuration file
aspect.

The first approach is to create a shared file (named something creative
like "Shared Program Files") and install all games and/or shared
applications in this location. As a shared folder, the programs will have
write permissions to this location, avoiding the configuration file
problem.

The second approach is to install the program in the normal location but
give all users full access to that particular directory. You can do this
in File Explorer by right clicking on the directory, selecting Properties
and then Security and giving the Users group "Full control". Note--do not
do this on the entire Program Files directory or you have essentially
undone the security you added by having the kids run as Limited.

For the registry issue, this is typically something that is done on the
first run of the program. You can address this issue by temporarily
changing each child's account to administrator level and launching the
game. After you have played a bit of the game the first time (and
confirmed that it works) you should be able to downgrade the child's
account to Limited and the game will function. Please note, you typically
have to perform this for each child's account.

As for keeping them away from your programs, the *simplest* way is probably
to make it less obvious that they are installed. When multiple accounts
are created, separate Start button (and other) configurations are created
for each user. You can find these by right clicking the start button and
selecting "Explore All Users". As the name suggests, this will show you
the configuration entries that apply to all users. You can limit what
programs appears Start button of the children's user accounts by modifying
the Start Menu folder which is found under each account. Essentially, move
all program shortcuts that you do not want the children to access from All
Users to your personal account name.

Also, within each account, you can modify what icons appears on the desktop
and on the Start button using the Task Bar and Start Menu control panel
tool. Again, this is one that you would adjust from within each child's
account.

YMMV, but here at my house the children are also told that using the
computer is a privilege and not a right. There are rules (such as Dad is
the only one allowed to install software and change system settings, etc.)
and if the rules are broken, the password on their accounts will be changed
to something that only I know.

Locking them off of the computer a couple of times due to missteps has
helped a great deal.

HTH,

mikkl
 
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Bruce Chambers

Peter said:
I have Windows XP Pro installed and have user accounts for two of my
children. I've found in the past that they are installing software and
making unwanted changes to the system. For instance, they installed AOL,
changed the system language from English to Spanish, and have downloaded
files without my permission.

Basically, I want to restrict them to using MS Office 2003, Internet
Explorer, MS Encarta, games, and some accessories. How can I set up Windows
and/or these other programs to prevent software installation, access to other
software programs I installed, downloading, and system changes?


1) Login using an account with administrative permissions.

2) Set a strong password for the built-in Administrator account (and any
other administrative account, of course). In other words, use at
least 8 characters, and make those characters a mixture of upper and
lower case letters, numbers, and special characters, such as *, $, _, !,
@, or #. Do *NOT* use easily guessed names, dates, etc.

3) Set your children's accounts to a Limited privilege level.

HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279783

HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q308418

HOW TO Use the Internet Explorer 6 Content Advisor to Control Access
to Web Sites in Internet Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310401

Protect Your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp

For some requirements, you may find it easier to invest in a
3rd-party solution, such as NetNanny or CyberPatrol.

You need to be aware, however, that *NO* technical or software
solution is fool-proof, and _none_ can ever adequately take the place of
live adult supervision. If you cannot trust your children to
safely/properly use the computer without supervision, you may have to
consider limiting their access to it.


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Bruce Chambers

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