Home networking - very strange issue - pls help!

A

AirYT

Hello,

As an IT guy, this one has me VERY puzzled:

I am trying to get a home network going with 2 Windows XP Pro SP2 machines.
I've literally done hundreds of these and this is the first time i've ever
seen this and i'm hoping someone out there can help me before i do a
reinstall of windows.

I have a laptop and a desktop that i am trying to share files across. The
laptop & the desktop cannot see each other, but this isn't the current
issue -- well it's part of it i guess.
The desktop machine -- called HOME -- is set to a static IP address
(192.168.0.50) and static DNS settings. NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to
Enabled. I have enabled Simple file sharing. I have shared 2 folders (the
shared account My Documents (which was automatically set to be shared as
'SharedDocs' after completing the netowrk wizard) and the user i've
currently set up (with no password)'s My Documents. This share is called
'public' - the permissions are set to everyone > full control and the
security tab is also set to Everyone > full control).

I can type in \\home\ and see all the shares including Scheduled Tasks & its
2 printers. I *can* see the 2 shared folders. When i double-click on them i
get the dreaded "Error: \\home\public\ is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource.." error. This is weird. I cannot
see the share that i have created. I have triple checked with simple file
sharing on and off that 'everyone' has full control over this folder in
folder security and the share permissions are also set to everyone > full
control in the sharing tab. Further, i can open the folder no problem
through the normal file system (ie C:\Docs & Settings\[User]\My Documents\).

I have uninstalled & reinstalled File & Print sharing for MS networks in the
Network Connection Properties box.
When i do a net share i can see all the shares plus C$, ADMIN$ & IPC$.
When i do a net view i get the "There are no entries in this list" error.
Though I have confirmed that the service "computer browser" is started.
On the laptop, where i can see the its own shares no problem, the net view
command shows me the computer "\\LAPTOP" in the list, but not the desktop.
THe laptop IS on the same subnet as the desktop (it has ip of
192.168.0.120).
I should also note something that puzzled me: even though in the TCP/IP
properties, NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to enabled, when i do an ipconfig
/all, there is an entry that says: NetBIOS over TCP/IP . . . . . . .
Disabled. Never seen that one before either. Now i know what NetBIOS is
supposed to do, so i'm confused that entering the IP directly does not work
properly. And besides, entering in the computer name works the same as
typing the ip address -- in that it has the same problem.
I went to the group policy editor and made sure the 'Disallow anonymous
access to SAM & share' was set to Disabled (it had previsouly been Enabled)
I have rebooted after each of these steps.

For the life of me, i can't get the file sharing to work properly on the
desktop (ie. to see or at least access it's own shares) and i am now
beginning to think that a system file might be corrupt or something else is
misconfigured. I also cannot get the desktop to see the computer or the
shares on the laptop. Even by entering in \\192.168.0.120\ instead of the
computer name does not work. However, i am concentrating on getting the
desktop to see its own shares before trying to see the shares on other
systems.

Does anyone have any further ideas on how to help on this?

Thanks in advance,
yt
 
A

AirYT

More that i forgot to mention:
No firewalls are enabled on either machine
Both computers can ping each other via IP address
The laptop cannot ping the desktop by computer name.
The desktop cannot ping the laptop by computer name
The desktop can ping itself by computer name and ip address

thanks, yt

AirYT said:
Hello,

As an IT guy, this one has me VERY puzzled:

I am trying to get a home network going with 2 Windows XP Pro SP2
machines. I've literally done hundreds of these and this is the first time
i've ever seen this and i'm hoping someone out there can help me before i
do a reinstall of windows.

I have a laptop and a desktop that i am trying to share files across. The
laptop & the desktop cannot see each other, but this isn't the current
issue -- well it's part of it i guess.
The desktop machine -- called HOME -- is set to a static IP address
(192.168.0.50) and static DNS settings. NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to
Enabled. I have enabled Simple file sharing. I have shared 2 folders (the
shared account My Documents (which was automatically set to be shared as
'SharedDocs' after completing the netowrk wizard) and the user i've
currently set up (with no password)'s My Documents. This share is called
'public' - the permissions are set to everyone > full control and the
security tab is also set to Everyone > full control).

I can type in \\home\ and see all the shares including Scheduled Tasks &
its 2 printers. I *can* see the 2 shared folders. When i double-click on
them i get the dreaded "Error: \\home\public\ is not accessible. You might
not have permission to use this network resource.." error. This is weird.
I cannot see the share that i have created. I have triple checked with
simple file sharing on and off that 'everyone' has full control over this
folder in folder security and the share permissions are also set to
everyone > full control in the sharing tab. Further, i can open the folder
no problem through the normal file system (ie C:\Docs & Settings\[User]\My
Documents\).

I have uninstalled & reinstalled File & Print sharing for MS networks in
the Network Connection Properties box.
When i do a net share i can see all the shares plus C$, ADMIN$ & IPC$.
When i do a net view i get the "There are no entries in this list" error.
Though I have confirmed that the service "computer browser" is started.
On the laptop, where i can see the its own shares no problem, the net view
command shows me the computer "\\LAPTOP" in the list, but not the desktop.
THe laptop IS on the same subnet as the desktop (it has ip of
192.168.0.120).
I should also note something that puzzled me: even though in the TCP/IP
properties, NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to enabled, when i do an ipconfig
/all, there is an entry that says: NetBIOS over TCP/IP . . . . . . .
Disabled. Never seen that one before either. Now i know what NetBIOS is
supposed to do, so i'm confused that entering the IP directly does not
work properly. And besides, entering in the computer name works the same
as typing the ip address -- in that it has the same problem.
I went to the group policy editor and made sure the 'Disallow anonymous
access to SAM & share' was set to Disabled (it had previsouly been
Enabled)
I have rebooted after each of these steps.

For the life of me, i can't get the file sharing to work properly on the
desktop (ie. to see or at least access it's own shares) and i am now
beginning to think that a system file might be corrupt or something else
is misconfigured. I also cannot get the desktop to see the computer or the
shares on the laptop. Even by entering in \\192.168.0.120\ instead of the
computer name does not work. However, i am concentrating on getting the
desktop to see its own shares before trying to see the shares on other
systems.

Does anyone have any further ideas on how to help on this?

Thanks in advance,
yt
 
P

(PeteCresswell)

Per AirYT:
More that i forgot to mention:
No firewalls are enabled on either machine
Both computers can ping each other via IP address
The laptop cannot ping the desktop by computer name.
The desktop cannot ping the laptop by computer name
The desktop can ping itself by computer name and ip address

This is a .00001 percent shot... but nobody's running a VPN connection, right?
 
G

Guest

Are both in the same workgroup?

AirYT said:
More that i forgot to mention:
No firewalls are enabled on either machine
Both computers can ping each other via IP address
The laptop cannot ping the desktop by computer name.
The desktop cannot ping the laptop by computer name
The desktop can ping itself by computer name and ip address

thanks, yt

AirYT said:
Hello,

As an IT guy, this one has me VERY puzzled:

I am trying to get a home network going with 2 Windows XP Pro SP2
machines. I've literally done hundreds of these and this is the first time
i've ever seen this and i'm hoping someone out there can help me before i
do a reinstall of windows.

I have a laptop and a desktop that i am trying to share files across. The
laptop & the desktop cannot see each other, but this isn't the current
issue -- well it's part of it i guess.
The desktop machine -- called HOME -- is set to a static IP address
(192.168.0.50) and static DNS settings. NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to
Enabled. I have enabled Simple file sharing. I have shared 2 folders (the
shared account My Documents (which was automatically set to be shared as
'SharedDocs' after completing the netowrk wizard) and the user i've
currently set up (with no password)'s My Documents. This share is called
'public' - the permissions are set to everyone > full control and the
security tab is also set to Everyone > full control).

I can type in \\home\ and see all the shares including Scheduled Tasks &
its 2 printers. I *can* see the 2 shared folders. When i double-click on
them i get the dreaded "Error: \\home\public\ is not accessible. You might
not have permission to use this network resource.." error. This is weird.
I cannot see the share that i have created. I have triple checked with
simple file sharing on and off that 'everyone' has full control over this
folder in folder security and the share permissions are also set to
everyone > full control in the sharing tab. Further, i can open the folder
no problem through the normal file system (ie C:\Docs & Settings\[User]\My
Documents\).

I have uninstalled & reinstalled File & Print sharing for MS networks in
the Network Connection Properties box.
When i do a net share i can see all the shares plus C$, ADMIN$ & IPC$.
When i do a net view i get the "There are no entries in this list" error.
Though I have confirmed that the service "computer browser" is started.
On the laptop, where i can see the its own shares no problem, the net view
command shows me the computer "\\LAPTOP" in the list, but not the desktop.
THe laptop IS on the same subnet as the desktop (it has ip of
192.168.0.120).
I should also note something that puzzled me: even though in the TCP/IP
properties, NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to enabled, when i do an ipconfig
/all, there is an entry that says: NetBIOS over TCP/IP . . . . . . .
Disabled. Never seen that one before either. Now i know what NetBIOS is
supposed to do, so i'm confused that entering the IP directly does not
work properly. And besides, entering in the computer name works the same
as typing the ip address -- in that it has the same problem.
I went to the group policy editor and made sure the 'Disallow anonymous
access to SAM & share' was set to Disabled (it had previsouly been
Enabled)
I have rebooted after each of these steps.

For the life of me, i can't get the file sharing to work properly on the
desktop (ie. to see or at least access it's own shares) and i am now
beginning to think that a system file might be corrupt or something else
is misconfigured. I also cannot get the desktop to see the computer or the
shares on the laptop. Even by entering in \\192.168.0.120\ instead of the
computer name does not work. However, i am concentrating on getting the
desktop to see its own shares before trying to see the shares on other
systems.

Does anyone have any further ideas on how to help on this?

Thanks in advance,
yt
 
A

AirYT

the laptop is configured to be part of a domain at the office while the
desktop is part of a workgroup.
but again, it's not really the key issue (at least that's my hunch). the key
issue seems to me to be getting the desktop to see its own shares.
thanks, yt

SBever said:
Are both in the same workgroup?

AirYT said:
More that i forgot to mention:
No firewalls are enabled on either machine
Both computers can ping each other via IP address
The laptop cannot ping the desktop by computer name.
The desktop cannot ping the laptop by computer name
The desktop can ping itself by computer name and ip address

thanks, yt

AirYT said:
Hello,

As an IT guy, this one has me VERY puzzled:

I am trying to get a home network going with 2 Windows XP Pro SP2
machines. I've literally done hundreds of these and this is the first
time
i've ever seen this and i'm hoping someone out there can help me before
i
do a reinstall of windows.

I have a laptop and a desktop that i am trying to share files across.
The
laptop & the desktop cannot see each other, but this isn't the current
issue -- well it's part of it i guess.
The desktop machine -- called HOME -- is set to a static IP address
(192.168.0.50) and static DNS settings. NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to
Enabled. I have enabled Simple file sharing. I have shared 2 folders
(the
shared account My Documents (which was automatically set to be shared
as
'SharedDocs' after completing the netowrk wizard) and the user i've
currently set up (with no password)'s My Documents. This share is
called
'public' - the permissions are set to everyone > full control and the
security tab is also set to Everyone > full control).

I can type in \\home\ and see all the shares including Scheduled Tasks
&
its 2 printers. I *can* see the 2 shared folders. When i double-click
on
them i get the dreaded "Error: \\home\public\ is not accessible. You
might
not have permission to use this network resource.." error. This is
weird.
I cannot see the share that i have created. I have triple checked with
simple file sharing on and off that 'everyone' has full control over
this
folder in folder security and the share permissions are also set to
everyone > full control in the sharing tab. Further, i can open the
folder
no problem through the normal file system (ie C:\Docs &
Settings\[User]\My
Documents\).

I have uninstalled & reinstalled File & Print sharing for MS networks
in
the Network Connection Properties box.
When i do a net share i can see all the shares plus C$, ADMIN$ & IPC$.
When i do a net view i get the "There are no entries in this list"
error.
Though I have confirmed that the service "computer browser" is started.
On the laptop, where i can see the its own shares no problem, the net
view
command shows me the computer "\\LAPTOP" in the list, but not the
desktop.
THe laptop IS on the same subnet as the desktop (it has ip of
192.168.0.120).
I should also note something that puzzled me: even though in the TCP/IP
properties, NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to enabled, when i do an
ipconfig
/all, there is an entry that says: NetBIOS over TCP/IP . . . . . . .
Disabled. Never seen that one before either. Now i know what NetBIOS is
supposed to do, so i'm confused that entering the IP directly does not
work properly. And besides, entering in the computer name works the
same
as typing the ip address -- in that it has the same problem.
I went to the group policy editor and made sure the 'Disallow anonymous
access to SAM & share' was set to Disabled (it had previsouly been
Enabled)
I have rebooted after each of these steps.

For the life of me, i can't get the file sharing to work properly on
the
desktop (ie. to see or at least access it's own shares) and i am now
beginning to think that a system file might be corrupt or something
else
is misconfigured. I also cannot get the desktop to see the computer or
the
shares on the laptop. Even by entering in \\192.168.0.120\ instead of
the
computer name does not work. However, i am concentrating on getting the
desktop to see its own shares before trying to see the shares on other
systems.

Does anyone have any further ideas on how to help on this?

Thanks in advance,
yt
 
S

Spikey

AirYT said:
Hello,

As an IT guy, this one has me VERY puzzled:

I am trying to get a home network going with 2 Windows XP Pro SP2
machines.

A shot in the dark? I recently had some issues networking my pc and laptop.
Had various network viewing issues and in addition in msn messenger live I
was able to see the laptop online (on main pc) but the laptop couldnt log in
completely and showed the main pc as off line.

I eventually noticed that under ie tools/ internet options/ advanced under
security heading "use SSL 3.0 "wasnt ticked on the laptop. Once ticked and
restarted all network and msn problems resolved.

I dont think you mentioned if a router was in use? Mine has a built in
firewall - something there perhaps?

:blush:)
 
G

Guest

First, make sure "Simple File Sharing" is disabled...

Open My Computer. Go to Tools>Fold Options and then in the View Tab...down
at the bottom make sure "Use simple file sharing" is unchecked....

From there you should be able to set permissions in the Sharing & Security
window of your shared folder.


In the next screen
AirYT said:
Hello,

As an IT guy, this one has me VERY puzzled:

I am trying to get a home network going with 2 Windows XP Pro SP2 machines.
I've literally done hundreds of these and this is the first time i've ever
seen this and i'm hoping someone out there can help me before i do a
reinstall of windows.

I have a laptop and a desktop that i am trying to share files across. The
laptop & the desktop cannot see each other, but this isn't the current
issue -- well it's part of it i guess.
The desktop machine -- called HOME -- is set to a static IP address
(192.168.0.50) and static DNS settings. NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to
Enabled. I have enabled Simple file sharing. I have shared 2 folders (the
shared account My Documents (which was automatically set to be shared as
'SharedDocs' after completing the netowrk wizard) and the user i've
currently set up (with no password)'s My Documents. This share is called
'public' - the permissions are set to everyone > full control and the
security tab is also set to Everyone > full control).

I can type in \\home\ and see all the shares including Scheduled Tasks & its
2 printers. I *can* see the 2 shared folders. When i double-click on them i
get the dreaded "Error: \\home\public\ is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource.." error. This is weird. I cannot
see the share that i have created. I have triple checked with simple file
sharing on and off that 'everyone' has full control over this folder in
folder security and the share permissions are also set to everyone > full
control in the sharing tab. Further, i can open the folder no problem
through the normal file system (ie C:\Docs & Settings\[User]\My Documents\).

I have uninstalled & reinstalled File & Print sharing for MS networks in the
Network Connection Properties box.
When i do a net share i can see all the shares plus C$, ADMIN$ & IPC$.
When i do a net view i get the "There are no entries in this list" error.
Though I have confirmed that the service "computer browser" is started.
On the laptop, where i can see the its own shares no problem, the net view
command shows me the computer "\\LAPTOP" in the list, but not the desktop.
THe laptop IS on the same subnet as the desktop (it has ip of
192.168.0.120).
I should also note something that puzzled me: even though in the TCP/IP
properties, NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to enabled, when i do an ipconfig
/all, there is an entry that says: NetBIOS over TCP/IP . . . . . . .
Disabled. Never seen that one before either. Now i know what NetBIOS is
supposed to do, so i'm confused that entering the IP directly does not work
properly. And besides, entering in the computer name works the same as
typing the ip address -- in that it has the same problem.
I went to the group policy editor and made sure the 'Disallow anonymous
access to SAM & share' was set to Disabled (it had previsouly been Enabled)
I have rebooted after each of these steps.

For the life of me, i can't get the file sharing to work properly on the
desktop (ie. to see or at least access it's own shares) and i am now
beginning to think that a system file might be corrupt or something else is
misconfigured. I also cannot get the desktop to see the computer or the
shares on the laptop. Even by entering in \\192.168.0.120\ instead of the
computer name does not work. However, i am concentrating on getting the
desktop to see its own shares before trying to see the shares on other
systems.

Does anyone have any further ideas on how to help on this?

Thanks in advance,
yt
 
A

Arthur Shapiro

By any chance is there a message at the bottom of this error box talking about
"insufficient resources"?

Art
 
W

windsurferLA

Cooked_Electron said:
First, make sure "Simple File Sharing" is disabled...

Open My Computer. Go to Tools>Fold Options and then in the View Tab...down
at the bottom make sure "Use simple file sharing" is unchecked....

From there you should be able to set permissions in the Sharing & Security
window of your shared folder.


In the next screen
AirYT said:
Hello,

As an IT guy, this one has me VERY puzzled:

I am trying to get a home network going with 2 Windows XP Pro SP2 machines.
I've literally done hundreds of these and this is the first time i've ever
seen this and i'm hoping someone out there can help me before i do a
reinstall of windows.

I have a laptop and a desktop that i am trying to share files across. The
laptop & the desktop cannot see each other, but this isn't the current
issue -- well it's part of it i guess.
The desktop machine -- called HOME -- is set to a static IP address
(192.168.0.50) and static DNS settings. NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to
Enabled. I have enabled Simple file sharing. I have shared 2 folders (the
shared account My Documents (which was automatically set to be shared as
'SharedDocs' after completing the netowrk wizard) and the user i've
currently set up (with no password)'s My Documents. This share is called
'public' - the permissions are set to everyone > full control and the
security tab is also set to Everyone > full control).

I can type in \\home\ and see all the shares including Scheduled Tasks & its
2 printers. I *can* see the 2 shared folders. When i double-click on them i
get the dreaded "Error: \\home\public\ is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource.." error. This is weird. I cannot
see the share that i have created. I have triple checked with simple file
sharing on and off that 'everyone' has full control over this folder in
folder security and the share permissions are also set to everyone > full
control in the sharing tab. Further, i can open the folder no problem
through the normal file system (ie C:\Docs & Settings\[User]\My Documents\).

I have uninstalled & reinstalled File & Print sharing for MS networks in the
Network Connection Properties box.
When i do a net share i can see all the shares plus C$, ADMIN$ & IPC$.
When i do a net view i get the "There are no entries in this list" error.
Though I have confirmed that the service "computer browser" is started.
On the laptop, where i can see the its own shares no problem, the net view
command shows me the computer "\\LAPTOP" in the list, but not the desktop.
THe laptop IS on the same subnet as the desktop (it has ip of
192.168.0.120).
I should also note something that puzzled me: even though in the TCP/IP
properties, NetBIOS over TCP/IP is set to enabled, when i do an ipconfig
/all, there is an entry that says: NetBIOS over TCP/IP . . . . . . .
Disabled. Never seen that one before either. Now i know what NetBIOS is
supposed to do, so i'm confused that entering the IP directly does not work
properly. And besides, entering in the computer name works the same as
typing the ip address -- in that it has the same problem.
I went to the group policy editor and made sure the 'Disallow anonymous
access to SAM & share' was set to Disabled (it had previsouly been Enabled)
I have rebooted after each of these steps.

For the life of me, i can't get the file sharing to work properly on the
desktop (ie. to see or at least access it's own shares) and i am now
beginning to think that a system file might be corrupt or something else is
misconfigured. I also cannot get the desktop to see the computer or the
shares on the laptop. Even by entering in \\192.168.0.120\ instead of the
computer name does not work. However, i am concentrating on getting the
desktop to see its own shares before trying to see the shares on other
systems.

Does anyone have any further ideas on how to help on this?

Thanks in advance,
yt
Did you ever get your network problem resolved.. You may want to check
my more recent post.
 

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