Holy BLOAT!

B

Bill in Co.

Not really true. My VIC-20 never crashed. It *always* came on saying
3,583 bytes free.
 
D

dadiOH

Kurt said:
Oh you are SOOO wrong!

All computers those days (toaster Macs, Amiga's, Apples, TRS80s,
Commodores) crashed ALL the time.

Not my TRS-80s. I'd never even *heard* of a computer crash until I got a PC
about 9 years ago. And that one - with Win98B - crashed lots less than it
did with Win98. So much for progress...

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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O

Onsokumaru

dadiOH said:
Not my TRS-80s. I'd never even *heard* of a computer crash until I got a
PC about 9 years ago. And that one - with Win98B - crashed lots less than
it did with Win98. So much for progress...
<snip>

Considering you could only run one program at a time, what's to crash?

It would depend on what you were doing and with what program as to crashing.

Still it was fun times waiting 20 minutes for a program to load from a
cassette...
 
K

Kurt Herman

That does bring back the memories!

My AppleIIGS had an external scsi 10 meg drive, and it finally got to the
point where it wouldn't spin up on its own. I guess the berings were going,
so I had to open it up, and spin the flywheel on the bottom with power on to
get it started. Then it worked fine (and I left it on), until the next power
failure, when I would have to repeat the procedure. :)

Kurt
 
G

GorkusPuss

I'm surprised no one in this thread has mentioned a Punch Card, Vista user's seem scarce at
a more senior level of person and calibre.

- GorkusPuss
 
B

Bob I

Only punched tape, no cards, but then maybe the folks that've seen it
all, aren't the whiners! ;-)
 
N

Not Me

LOL, I started on a tube based machine, with punch tape to 'save' programs.
Later on I used punch cards.
Don't you miss them? LOL
 
S

sgopus

I think this post has gone off topic for long enough.
considering it should not have been posted in an XP group anyway.
My original post, voicing this opinion is no longer around, interesting.
 
D

dennis@home

Bob I said:
Only punched tape, no cards, but then maybe the folks that've seen it all,
aren't the whiners! ;-)

I learnt to program in Fortran using a portapunch while I was at primary
school in the '60s.
It was a case of punch out a program using the punch on 40 column pre
perforated cards,
post them to Imperial college in London,
wait a few days,
get cards back with printout.

I was about 8 at the time.
 
B

Bill in Co.

dennis@home said:
I learnt to program in Fortran using a portapunch while I was at primary
school in the '60s.
It was a case of punch out a program using the punch on 40 column pre
perforated cards,
post them to Imperial college in London,
wait a few days,
get cards back with printout.

We had to wait a WEEK to get the results back! And if you made any
errors, it was tough nuggies.
 
C

Canuck57

GorkusPuss said:
I'm surprised no one in this thread has mentioned a Punch Card, Vista
user's seem scarce at a more senior level of person and calibre.

- GorkusPuss

And paper tape. Fortran, on cards. the first language for me. Always made
sure my program was on the top of the stack as someone would always crash
the desk 1/2 way through.

Crap, that makes me feel old.
 
C

Canuck57

Only punched tape, no cards, but then maybe the folks that've seen it all,
aren't the whiners! ;-)

The worst part was thumb wheeling in the boot strap. Perkin Elmer (?), or
was it a PDP ? First, thumb wheel in the boot code, then the paper tape and
finally, you could get to the big floppy for all of 16k of core/donut
memory.
 
N

Not Me

I seem to remember it was Mylar tape not paper, but I guess it depends on
the system.
In 1969 we used the HP 2000...LOL It used HP basic.
There were no programs to run on the computer.
Whatever you wanted it to do, you had to write a program to make it work.
Do you remember programming with line numbers?
Did you ever write a for/next or a do loop? LOL
In a high school of 2000 students, they allowed 16 of us to take the
computer class.
You had to have an interview with the Dean, Counselor, Teacher and Principal
to be allowed in.
I learned Compiler, Fortran & Cobol when I went to college.
 
B

Bill Sharpe

Not said:
I seem to remember it was Mylar tape not paper, but I guess it depends
on the system.
In 1969 we used the HP 2000...LOL It used HP basic.
There were no programs to run on the computer.
Whatever you wanted it to do, you had to write a program to make it work.
Do you remember programming with line numbers?
Did you ever write a for/next or a do loop? LOL
In a high school of 2000 students, they allowed 16 of us to take the
computer class.
You had to have an interview with the Dean, Counselor, Teacher and
Principal to be allowed in.
I learned Compiler, Fortran & Cobol when I went to college.
You guys are young!
I was a radio operator in the Army in 1953 and used paper tape to send
RTT (radio teleytpe) messages. Fortran and punch cards came much later.
And I, too, had a VIC-20 with cassette input.

Bill
 
C

Canuck57

I seem to remember it was Mylar tape not paper, but I guess it depends on
the system.

Yep, but I think mylar came after paper. Mylar was not as fragile as paper.
In 1969 we used the HP 2000...LOL It used HP basic.

Older than I, me did HP 3000 once. Tempermental. Had those drum 2MB
dishwasher type drives. Never forgot the sound when a head crashed on a
plater once.
There were no programs to run on the computer.
Whatever you wanted it to do, you had to write a program to make it work.
Do you remember programming with line numbers?

Certainly.

10 print Hello
20 goto 10

Pet 2000, was a welcome alternative to a PDP.
Did you ever write a for/next or a do loop? LOL
Lots.

In a high school of 2000 students, they allowed 16 of us to take the
computer class.

I was a lucky one. Fortran, cards.
You had to have an interview with the Dean, Counselor, Teacher and
Principal to be allowed in.
I learned Compiler, Fortran & Cobol when I went to college.

Never had to do the interview. Math, only got 90% because 10% was for
attendance. Physics, chemistry and biology, almost the same. Biology drew
me down.

English was a different story, as Spock would say, "Not logical". I did
better at fortran than english.
 
C

Canuck57

Bill Sharpe said:
You guys are young!
I was a radio operator in the Army in 1953 and used paper tape to send RTT
(radio teleytpe) messages. Fortran and punch cards came much later. And I,
too, had a VIC-20 with cassette input.

Bill

Guess so. If you were say 19 in the army in 1953 that would make you a spry
old fart at 74!!!

Bet you have some stories to tell.
 

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