Hibernate nwo really slow...

[RJK]

Have been digging around trying to find out why XP Home ed. SP3+ all
updates,
"Hibernation" has become really slow, compared to the few seconds it used to
take.

Have installed User profile Hive cleanup service.

Rummaged in Event viewer, cleared logs | rebooted | ...can't see anything
collapsing or hanging in logs.
Prior to clearing logs there was a HID compliant device not found. PS2
mouse port is switched off in bios - did that a little while ago to get rid
of a red x for it in device manager.

When I invoke Hibernate, the progress bar appears after a few seconds, then
takes approx. 15 seconds to get past the first couple of blocks, that blocks
crawl to the end of the bar and eventually PC powers off - FIFTY seconds !

I appreciate it's like asking, "how long is piece of string", ....any clues
on how to get it bck to normal ?

regards, Richard

 

[Unknown]

How much free space do you have on your hard drive?
Do a disk cleanup then a defrag and try the hibernation.

 

[Jose]

Have been digging around trying to find out why XP Home ed. SP3+ all
updates,
"Hibernation" has become really slow, compared to the few seconds it usedto
take.

Have installed User profile Hive cleanup service.

Rummaged in Event viewer, cleared logs | rebooted | ...can't see anything
collapsing or hanging in logs.
Prior to clearing logs there was a HID compliant device not found.  PS2
mouse port is switched off in bios - did that a little while ago to get rid
of a red x for it in device manager.

When I invoke Hibernate, the progress bar appears after a few seconds, then
takes approx. 15 seconds to get past the first couple of blocks, that blocks
crawl to the end of the bar and eventually PC  powers off -  FIFTY seconds !

I appreciate it's like asking, "how long is piece of string", ....any clues
on how to get it bck to normal ?

regards, Richard

When was the last time you did a "real" shutdown and reboot?

 

[Unknown]

PS Any chance User profile Hive cleanup service is causing the problem?
When does it run?

 

[RJK]

How much free space do you have on your hard drive?
Do a disk cleanup then a defrag and try the hibernation.

Thanks,

HD's always kept offline and online defragged - tons of spare gb's on each
hd including boot drive

....seeing as I have a few days off work, I shall reinstall/update everything
and rebuild installed apps. etc. Mammoth job but, I shall be able to keep
an eye out for what hits it for 6 - re: XP Hibernation 55 seconds. ...would
have liked to have pinned it down though - obviously !

regards, Richard

 

[Jose]

Thanks,

HD's always kept offline and online defragged - tons of spare gb's on each
hd including boot drive

...seeing as I have a few days off work, I shall reinstall/update everything
and rebuild installed apps. etc.    Mammoth job but, I shall be able to keep
an eye out for what hits it for 6 - re: XP Hibernation 55 seconds.  ...would
have liked to have pinned it down though - obviously !

regards, Richard

Why go through all that without trying the easy stuff first?

Have you tried an actual shutdown, power off and restart?

There are some people that think constantly hibernating accumulates
small temporary issues that over repated hibernations can grow up into
a big issue.

However, you do have some days off.

Rebuilding and all will require a reboot sooner or later, so when you
get done you won't have any idea if the rebuild fixed it or the reboot
was all that was needed.

Hmmm,,, what to do.

 

[SC Tom]

PS Any chance User profile Hive cleanup service is causing the problem?
When does it run?

It runs on a real shut down or on a log out, not on hibernation.

SC Tom

 

[Unknown]

Thanks! I don't and won't use it.

It runs on a real shut down or on a log out, not on hibernation.

SC Tom

 

[Unknown]

Prior to hibernating, did you check task manager to see if anything running?

 

[Twayne]

Have been digging around trying to find out why XP Home ed. SP3+ all
updates,
"Hibernation" has become really slow, compared to the few seconds it
used to take.

Have installed User profile Hive cleanup service.

Rummaged in Event viewer, cleared logs | rebooted | ...can't see
anything collapsing or hanging in logs.
Prior to clearing logs there was a HID compliant device not found. PS2
mouse port is switched off in bios - did that a little while ago
to get rid of a red x for it in device manager.

When I invoke Hibernate, the progress bar appears after a few
seconds, then takes approx. 15 seconds to get past the first couple
of blocks, that blocks crawl to the end of the bar and eventually PC
powers off - FIFTY seconds !
I appreciate it's like asking, "how long is piece of string", ....any
clues on how to get it bck to normal ?

regards, Richard

Has it always taken that long?

Perhaps you have a very large number of loaded background tasks and it
simply takes that long to collect all the data and information from open
programs and copy them to your drive.
Close all your open programs, then use MSConfig tool to stop all
unnecessary processes (it's a tick box), restart, and see if Hibernate
is faster then. If so, it's what it has to collect and copy out of
memory to the hard drive causing the time. 55 S is a little long, but
not that bad, really, depending on what your system is doing and has to
save before it can shut down. The more memory you have the longer it
can take, too.

HTH,

Twayne`

 

[SC Tom]

It helps on shutdown to keep errors from unclosed programs to a minimum.
Since it doesn't affect hibernation, I'd go ahead and leave it enabled.

SC Tom

 

[Jose]

What is the method for checking Task Manager prior to hibernation?

You just "check it", then hibernate?

I never fire up Task Manager and check it before hibernating.

I just checked Task Manager now and don't have things running, but I
have a couple Applications and a whole lot of Processes running.

Am I in for some hibernation headaches?

RJK - did you try a complete reboot yet or are you still reinstalling
everything?

Think like this: Every hibernation will take a wee bit longer than
the one before until it just doesn't work at all anymore or you start
to say - hey, this takes longer!

If you use MSCONFIG, you have to reboot anyway so now you have changed
several things instead of one. It may relieve you of your woes, but
you will never know for sure what the problem was or what fixed it.

To reset your hibernate doesn't work at all anymore clock, perform a
complete and proper system reboot.

 

[RJK]

Thanks all esp, SC Tom and Jose and others...

I do keep a close eye on what's running, Svcs, Startup, items "Run" items in
HKCU and HKLM etc.

Have been | trying for optimal cpu and memory settings, in bios, without
"overclocking" as such,
....I may now have cpu and memory timings, optimized without o'c'ing too
much - whilst NOT upsetting AMD's Cool'n'Quiet - which I
want to keep, as there's approx. 60watts, (UK mains 230/240volt "watts"),
difference between cpu idle and full load.

I had mostly all to do with cpu and memory set to "Auto," and noticed that
XP hibernation was taking 55 seconds.
CPU-Z showed my PC2-6400 fsb speed under load was ddr375MHz. PC2-6400
Crucial Ballistix could do better I thought.
Setting tighter CL,tRCD,tRP,tRAS,tRC to 4-4-4-12-24 @ 2.000v up to a couple
of weeks ago, was fine for a few weeks, then PC became unstable,
and had to drop it back to SPD JDEC #2 400MHz timings and voltage
5-5-5-18-23 @ 1.8500v

Seeing as Crucual Ballistix modules would no longer work in an overclocked
fashion, (I
stupidly thought that they would last forever as they are "guranteed to work
at those higher settings, (and at that time it didn't cross my mind that I
was overclocking them!),
I've now left them set at SPD JDEC #2 5-5-5-18-23 @1.8500v and wound up the
fsb
actual to 213mhz, to get a 210.7/8MHz actual / 396.? MHz ddr rate | cpu
speed 1053.6 / 3160.7 idle / load repectively. which of
course means I've ended up overclocking the b****y cpu but, temperatures
don't seem
to climb very much, and computer remains stable. I HATE overclocking
anything but, this x6000 Windsor |
Asus M3N78 | 2x1gb Crucial Ballistix is annoyingly not as responsive as my
old Intel based 2nd PC that Paul helped me get running properly when I
replaced D935 with E6300 a while ago, and had to buy PC-4000 memory to get
that PC working with an Intel E6300 cpu

....anyhow hibernation is now takging approx. 35 seconds, and seems a bit
smoother.

regards, Richard

 

[Unknown]

You cannot hibernate if any application is running. The application must be
shut down first.
I merely suggest you check if something is running to give you a clue as to
why
it takes a long time to hibernate.

Prior to hibernating, did you check task manager to see if anything

What is the method for checking Task Manager prior to hibernation?

You just "check it", then hibernate?

I never fire up Task Manager and check it before hibernating.

I just checked Task Manager now and don't have things running, but I
have a couple Applications and a whole lot of Processes running.

Am I in for some hibernation headaches?

RJK - did you try a complete reboot yet or are you still reinstalling
everything?

Think like this: Every hibernation will take a wee bit longer than
the one before until it just doesn't work at all anymore or you start
to say - hey, this takes longer!

If you use MSCONFIG, you have to reboot anyway so now you have changed
several things instead of one. It may relieve you of your woes, but
you will never know for sure what the problem was or what fixed it.

To reset your hibernate doesn't work at all anymore clock, perform a
complete and proper system reboot.

 

[Unknown]

You are responding to the wrong person.

It helps on shutdown to keep errors from unclosed programs to a minimum.
Since it doesn't affect hibernation, I'd go ahead and leave it enabled.

SC Tom

 

[Jose]

You cannot hibernate if any application is running. The application must be
shut down first.
I merely suggest you check if something is running to give you a clue as to
why



What is the method for checking Task Manager prior to hibernation?

You just "check it", then hibernate?

I never fire up Task Manager and check it before hibernating.

I just checked Task Manager now and don't have things running, but I
have a couple Applications and a whole lot of Processes running.

Am I in for some hibernation headaches?

RJK - did you try a complete reboot yet or are you still reinstalling
everything?

Think like this:  Every hibernation will take a wee bit longer than
the one before until it just doesn't work at all anymore or you start
to say - hey, this takes longer!

If you use MSCONFIG, you have to reboot anyway so now you have changed
several things instead of one.  It may relieve you of your woes, but
you will never know for sure what the problem was or what fixed it.

To reset your hibernate doesn't work at all anymore clock, perform a
complete and proper system reboot.

When did that start happening?

I just hibernated Outlook, Chrome (this group), Adobe Reader, WMP and
my text editor and everything came back just like I left it. They
were all in the Applications tab of Task Manager when I started and
when I came back (I looked).

I am not a hibernation expert, so help me understand. Is there a
particular Application that prevents hibernation and what is it? I
want to try it.

The OPs issue is not that he can't get in or out of hibernation, he
says it "has become really slow".

 

[Unknown]

Understand the difference between an application being loaded into memory
and one that is running.

You cannot hibernate if any application is running. The application must
be
shut down first.
I merely suggest you check if something is running to give you a clue as
to
why
message



What is the method for checking Task Manager prior to hibernation?

You just "check it", then hibernate?

I never fire up Task Manager and check it before hibernating.

I just checked Task Manager now and don't have things running, but I
have a couple Applications and a whole lot of Processes running.

Am I in for some hibernation headaches?

RJK - did you try a complete reboot yet or are you still reinstalling
everything?

Think like this: Every hibernation will take a wee bit longer than
the one before until it just doesn't work at all anymore or you start
to say - hey, this takes longer!

If you use MSCONFIG, you have to reboot anyway so now you have changed
several things instead of one. It may relieve you of your woes, but
you will never know for sure what the problem was or what fixed it.

To reset your hibernate doesn't work at all anymore clock, perform a
complete and proper system reboot.

When did that start happening?

I just hibernated Outlook, Chrome (this group), Adobe Reader, WMP and
my text editor and everything came back just like I left it. They
were all in the Applications tab of Task Manager when I started and
when I came back (I looked).

I am not a hibernation expert, so help me understand. Is there a
particular Application that prevents hibernation and what is it? I
want to try it.

The OPs issue is not that he can't get in or out of hibernation, he
says it "has become really slow".

 

[Twayne]

You cannot hibernate if any application is running. The application
must be shut down first.

What? No, not true.
Part of the value of hibernation is bringing all those programs back,
opened and to the same state they were in when hibernation occurred.
The more programs running the slower hibernation can be, but a running
application will not stop the hibernation that I've ever heard of.
Hibernation simply copies all of memory to the hard disk; all of it if
memory is full.
I routinely leave things running when I hibernate; that's part of
what makes it a good feature: NOT having to close everything out and
exit it before I power the sytem off. When you power back up, bingo;
everything is back just as it was.

IS there some application that Hibernation will refuse to run? There
can't be very many of them because I've never come across one. I know
it's not an Office program nor any program I have in fact, since I
routinely may have several windows open of several different types of
programs. If you're on DSL, even your internet connections will come
back. Obviously it can't work on anything that requires dialup methods,
but otherwise it works fine, neglecting online password timeouts, etc..

....

HTH,

Twayne`

 

[Twayne]

Understand the difference between an application being loaded into
memory and one that is running.

If an application happens to be running, the program and all its current
states at the time of h ibernation are simply written to disk, to be
retrieved later when the machine is powered back up. A "shapshot" of
all states is taken and written to disk, sort of. If a program is in
the middle of a write, that write will complete and the buffer be
flushed before hibernation takes place, but that's all that happens;
then it's written to disk in that state. That's all handled by
Hibernation, not by the user. No Exit or Quit needed.

HTH,

Twayne`

 

[Unknown]

The program must be stopped before hibernation.
File reads must be completed, interrupts masked etc.