Goog quality compatible carts for the IP4000 (UK PLEASE)

[Mikey]

Can anyone give me a few brand names (So I know what I'm buying) of a good
quality compatible cart for the Cano IP4000.

I want to have the best possible chance of the heads NOT clogging, and that
I get what I pay for in the respect of both Dye based and Pigment based inks
when it comes to the Black carts.

I have read somewhere that some carts contain the exact same ink in both
carts, so your not really getting Pigment and Dye.

Also where would I purchase these from.

Thanks

Mike

 

[Mikey]

Sorry about that.

 

[measekite]

Can anyone give me a few brand names (So I know what I'm buying) of a good
quality compatible cart for the Cano IP4000.

I want to have the best possible chance of the heads NOT clogging, and that
I get what I pay for in the respect of both Dye based and Pigment based inks
when it comes to the Black carts.

I have read somewhere that some carts contain the exact same ink in both
carts, so your not really getting Pigment and Dye.

Also where would I purchase these from.

Thanks

Mike

Ink vendors have chosen to either lie or withhold information you need
to make an intelligent buying decision. Most do not want to disclose
who the mfg/formulator or BRAND of what they sell. Most thing the name
compatible is a brand. If they all were to tell you the BRAND then you
could then find it easier to stay away from poor quality merchandise.
You would then not go from one web vendor to another to buy the same ink
you just had trouble with.

If everyone would not buy a pig in a poke they would change their
practices. TO HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE CHANCE NOT TO CLOG YOUR PRINT HEAD
YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE PUTTING THROUGH IT.

 

[Mikey]

Cheers Measekite.

So whats a bloke to do?

Do you have any sugestions for good ink in the UK.

I don't mind refilling, I'm told it's not to bad for the Canon carts.

Thanks Again.

Mike

 

[measekite]

Cheers Measekite.

So whats a bloke to do?

Do you have any sugestions for good ink in the UK.

I don't mind refilling, I'm told it's not to bad for the Canon carts.

Thanks Again.

Mike

It is difficult. You need to find out who all of the mfg/formulators
are. Then you need to find out who actually used them and what their
experience was. Then you need to find out what vendors sell them;
hopefully you can find multiple vendors selling the same thing.
Unfortunately this same thing will most likely be sold under different
labels.

You may have to call the vendor because the vast vast vast majority of
them are not forthcoming on their website. Then you need to make sure
that the web vendor is a professional organization.

Some people in the UK has used Jetec or something like that and have had
trouble with their ink.

Refilling does not save you that much more than purchasing a prefilled
cart. I would look to that first and avoid the pain in the ass and the
mess. Also you avoid the possibility of making a mistake.

Again, if your print load is not excessive I would stick with Canon ink

 

[Ron Cohen]

There a numerous vendor sites the UK and quite a few in the US who will ship
to the UK. Do some searching on google and you should be able to find
threads that give an indication as to the better vendors. Stay with a known
brand such as Formulabs, which is available in bottles, and you won't have
any problems. In Europe, OCP is another brand that has a good reputation.
Refilling is quick and easy. For BCI-6 or BCI-3 cartridges all that is
required is to inject ink into the reservoir.
Here is the entire procedure:
1.- Put the orange cap back on the outlet port of the cartridge. If the
original cap isn't available, a piece of duct tape works fine. This is done
to prevent leakage during the refill process.
2.- Make an opening in the reservoir to inject ink. Either remove the
sealing plug from the top of the tank, or as I do don't mess with the
sealing plug, but instead make a small hole about 3/16" from the top of the
cartridge. Use anything handy to make the hole - drill bit, hot paper clip,
etc. Trim away any waste plastic that forms around the edges. Obviously this
only has to be done one time.
3.- Inject refill ink into the opening you just made.
4.- Seal up the opening with either plugs for the top opening or if you use
my method, a spot of duct tape.
5.- Put the cartridge back in the printer and start printing.
Refilling is quick and easy and if you aren't a complet klutz it isn't
messy. An entire set can be refilled in a few minutes.

Ron

 

[Stick Stickus]

Try your local Cartridge World, they can refill your cartridges with the
correct inks which come from OCP(Europe) and Formulabs, or, you can buy
their compatibles which contain the same ink.
regards
Stick

 

[Tony]

Sorry Mike I do not know the UK market at all...
To try to put the record straight, the important thing is to find a reputable
vendor of inks or compatibles.
If they have been in business for several years and have a good reputation you
will get good quality and service; otherwise they would not have survived in an
extremely competitive market.

The question about who makes the ink is self regulating, good vendors use good
product and techniques, bad vendors go out of business quickly - it's that
simple.
Somebody will probably chime in and say that I am in the business and therefore
can't be trusted (logic that escapes me), I am in the business but I do not
trade in the UK and therefore have no axe to grind.

Somebody will also probably say you need to know who manufactures the ink that
you may decide to buy, as I have said above, all you need to do is choose a
reputable vendor. The question of what is or is not a brand is irrelevant and
illusory. Quality of the people you deal with is what really matters, do they
stand behind their product or not! In any event knowing who made the ink is of
no value to the average customer, all they want is a well priced quality
product.

It has been suggested that non OEM ink/compatible vendors do not guarantee that
their product will not clog heads. Good traders will fix anything that they are
responsible for breaking whatever the industry. Printer vendors are unlikely to
fix a printer for free that clogs heads after warranty even if you use their
cartridges. That is no different to non OEM suppliers.

I hope this does not start another long winded and pointless discussion on
brands, if it does it is unlikely that I will participate. But if you have any
questions of me I will be happy to try to answer them.
Good luck
Tony

 

[Burt]

I've been successful with MIS inks in both OEM and MIS empty carts in my
i960 (six color) Canon printer. This is the series just before the Pixma.
Ron Cohen, who ansered your question, uses Formulabs inks which others have
also used very successfully. For some information on inks and carts go to
the following sites. Lots of information, and you can send in questions at
the Nifty-Stuff site after signing in. Both deal with issues of inks,
carts, refilling techniques, and printer maintenance.

http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

 

[Davy]

Could I just raise a point how dya go on for colour matching, is it
better to buy one of each?

If he does a refill on just say one tank, MIGHT he have to set the
RGB ink drive levels to achieve a good grey scale on a small Black
& white picture otherwise he's gonna end up with a coloured
picture with 'whites' tinted.

I doubt anyone could gaurantee if they bought three bottles of
reifill ink that they would produce a good greyscale without having
to adjust, and once set all should be well until the next bottles
or are they all a pretty good match, the paper brand also comes into
play here I guess.

Davy with just a thought.

 

[BernBennett]

Hi Davey,

I recommend JetTec, have been using them for some 3 yrs now, in an old
BJC8200 photo printer.

I get mine from www.mouse2house.co.uk.

The cartridges are made in Boston, Lincs by the largest european
manufacturer of compatibles.

I would also advise the purchase of Cartridge Flush; any sign of a
clogged nozzle when doing a nozzle check can be swiftly remedied by a
soak in this solution.

Hope this helps.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

Yes, getting accurate grey scale balance can be a problem with 3rd party
inks. Some 3rd party ink companies will provide free profiles. Mixing
and matching and refilling non-virgin carts, mixing inks, can compound
the problems.

Art