Good printer for XP Home Edition

[Mint]

I am looking for recommendations for a printer for my XP Home Edition.

My HP printer went dead after only 2 years, so HP is out of the
running
for any more purchases from me. ( I have an old HP scanner that is
still running fine.)

I am looking for a reliable printer that will last at least 3 years.

In shopping, it looks like all you can get are all-in-ones, unless you
go with a laser.

Cost per page is VERY important.

In reviews I have seen, there are none that actually verify the price/
page, they just take
the manufacture's word.

Have a great day,
Andy

P.S. Has anyone bought up cartridges in quantity and used them say one
year later?
Did they still work and print expected number of pages?

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[SC Tom]

I am looking for recommendations for a printer for my XP Home Edition.

My HP printer went dead after only 2 years, so HP is out of the
running
for any more purchases from me. ( I have an old HP scanner that is
still running fine.)

I am looking for a reliable printer that will last at least 3 years.

In shopping, it looks like all you can get are all-in-ones, unless you
go with a laser.

Cost per page is VERY important.

In reviews I have seen, there are none that actually verify the price/
page, they just take
the manufacture's word.

Have a great day,
Andy

P.S. Has anyone bought up cartridges in quantity and used them say one
year later?
Did they still work and print expected number of pages?

http://intouch.org/magazine/daily-devotional
http://www.happynews.com/

I wouldn't cross HP off the list just because you hade one bad experience. I
had a bad one, too, years ago (HP 5L, IIRC), but we used HP printers almost
exclusively for the past 16 years or so where I worked, and that was the
only one that gave me any problems out of the 20 or so that we used. At
least half of them are still in service today, albeit in a more limited
capacity than they were originally used for. Some are lasers, others are ink
jets.

I've owned two home printers since Windows98, both HP inkjets. The only
reason I got rid of the first one was that it was so old, it didn't function
correctly with WindowsXP. I bought a PSC 2355v AIO shortly after installing
XP and still use it on a daily basis.

I'm not trying to push HP since I don't own any stock in them, but they
still make a decent printer. But if you do go with another brand (or even
with an HP), check the sites that sell them like Newegg.com, Staples, or
Best Buy and look at the customer reviews. That's probably the best resource
to use to find out the real deal on how they hold up, how easy they are to
install, and if they'll be compatible with a newer OS, if you decide to
upgrade. Plus most of those sites will give you how many pages you can
expect out of a cartridge. Divide the price by the that number for cost per
page.

My SO has a Kodak printer that works very well, but eats cartridges for
lunch. She loves to print pictures of her grandchildren, so we end up
getting new cartridges often. My AIO prints just as well, but doesn't go
through cartridges that fast, but they cost more than the Kodak ones. I've
tried the "remanufactured" ones, but they don't last or print as well as new
ones do. I haven't figured out the cost per page of either of them, but my
guess is they're about the same.

Phew, sorry, didn't mean to run on so, but take what you need and leave the
rest There are plenty of resources out there; it's usually just a matter
of finding them.

 

[Tim Meddick]

Printers, these days, are not designed to be very durable or last for very
long.

Two years use seems quite good running to me!

The commonest printers you can buy nowadays seem to be built using the
"motor car protocol" which states that it should fall apart after no longer
than five years!

Whatever, but it *is* a fact that, as far as the commonest printers go, you
can buy a new printer for the same price or cheaper than to get new ink
cartridges for it!

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

 

[Mint]

I wouldn't cross HP off the list just because you hade one bad experience.. I
had a bad one, too, years ago (HP 5L, IIRC), but we used HP printers almost
exclusively for the past 16 years or so where I worked, and that was the
only one that gave me any problems out of the 20 or so that we used. At
least half of them are still in service today, albeit in a more limited
capacity than they were originally used for. Some are lasers, others are ink
jets.

I've owned two home printers since Windows98, both HP inkjets. The only
reason I got rid of the first one was that it was so old, it didn't function
correctly with WindowsXP. I bought a PSC 2355v AIO shortly after installing
XP and still use it on a daily basis.

I'm not trying to push HP since I don't own any stock in them, but they
still make a decent printer. But if you do go with another brand (or even
with an HP), check the sites that sell them like Newegg.com, Staples, or
Best Buy and look at the customer reviews. That's probably the best resource
to use to find out the real deal on how they hold up, how easy they are to
install, and if they'll be compatible with a newer OS, if you decide to
upgrade. Plus most of those sites will give you how many pages you can
expect out of a cartridge. Divide the price by the that number for cost per
page.

My SO has a Kodak printer that works very well, but eats cartridges for
lunch. She loves to print pictures of her grandchildren, so we end up
getting new cartridges often. My AIO prints just as well, but doesn't go
through cartridges that fast, but they cost more than the Kodak ones. I've
tried the "remanufactured" ones, but they don't last or print as well as new
ones do. I haven't figured out the cost per page of either of them, but my
guess is they're about the same.

Phew, sorry, didn't mean to run on so, but take what you need and leave the
rest There are plenty of resources out there; it's usually just a matter
of finding them.

Thanks for the info.

The best resource is probably patience.

Keep asking around and I'm considering a used one.

My decision not to buy HP products is also based on an HP computer
that my mother has.

Within a year, the hard drive and monitor went out.

For comparison, I still have a 10 yr. old Dell Optiplex that is still
running.

Take care,
Andy

 

[Mint]

Printers, these days, are not designed to be very durable or last for very
long.

Two years use seems quite good running to me!

The commonest printers you can buy nowadays seem to be built using the
"motor car protocol" which states that it should fall apart after no longer
than five years!

Whatever, but it *is* a fact that, as far as the commonest printers go, you
can buy a new printer for the same price or cheaper than to get new ink
cartridges for it!

==

Cheers,    Tim Meddick,    Peckham, London.    

I used to refill cartridges with excellent results.

It may be a tad more difficult now.

Andy

 

[Tim Meddick]

You might be able top put that down to bad luck.

Any product can be the odd-one-out where unexpected defects are concerned.

If it were not so we wouldn't need the Guarantee!

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

I wouldn't cross HP off the list just because you hade one bad
experience. I
had a bad one, too, years ago (HP 5L, IIRC), but we used HP printers
almost
exclusively for the past 16 years or so where I worked, and that was the
only one that gave me any problems out of the 20 or so that we used. At
least half of them are still in service today, albeit in a more limited
capacity than they were originally used for. Some are lasers, others are
ink
jets.

I've owned two home printers since Windows98, both HP inkjets. The only
reason I got rid of the first one was that it was so old, it didn't
function
correctly with WindowsXP. I bought a PSC 2355v AIO shortly after
installing
XP and still use it on a daily basis.

I'm not trying to push HP since I don't own any stock in them, but they
still make a decent printer. But if you do go with another brand (or even
with an HP), check the sites that sell them like Newegg.com, Staples, or
Best Buy and look at the customer reviews. That's probably the best
resource
to use to find out the real deal on how they hold up, how easy they are
to
install, and if they'll be compatible with a newer OS, if you decide to
upgrade. Plus most of those sites will give you how many pages you can
expect out of a cartridge. Divide the price by the that number for cost
per
page.

My SO has a Kodak printer that works very well, but eats cartridges for
lunch. She loves to print pictures of her grandchildren, so we end up
getting new cartridges often. My AIO prints just as well, but doesn't go
through cartridges that fast, but they cost more than the Kodak ones.
I've
tried the "remanufactured" ones, but they don't last or print as well as
new
ones do. I haven't figured out the cost per page of either of them, but
my
guess is they're about the same.

Phew, sorry, didn't mean to run on so, but take what you need and leave
the
rest There are plenty of resources out there; it's usually just a
matter
of finding them.

Thanks for the info.

The best resource is probably patience.

Keep asking around and I'm considering a used one.

My decision not to buy HP products is also based on an HP computer
that my mother has.

Within a year, the hard drive and monitor went out.

For comparison, I still have a 10 yr. old Dell Optiplex that is still
running.

Take care,
Andy

 

[Arthur Shapiro]

I am looking for recommendations for a printer for my XP Home Edition.

My HP printer went dead after only 2 years, so HP is out of the
running

A few years ago I went to eBay and purchased a big, industrial-strength Unisys
UDS9718 networked laser printer, essentially a rebadged Lexmark Optra S 1855.
I work for Unisys, and was thus familiar with the product as (at the time) it
was used all over the place inhouse.

The thing will probably outlive me, given modest to moderate home use.

The toner cartridges are expensive at list, although they're good for
something like 20000 copies. Again, on eBay, the one or two I've ever needed
are reasonable.

While I might purchase a somewhat newer model if I had the issue today, it has
always struck me as an intelligent way of purchasing a printer that won't fall
apart in short order. And being a networked unit plugged into my router, all
the desktops and laptops in my home can print to it at any time.

Art

 

[SC Tom]

Printers, these days, are not designed to be very durable or last for very
long.

Two years use seems quite good running to me!

The commonest printers you can buy nowadays seem to be built using the
"motor car protocol" which states that it should fall apart after no
longer
than five years!

Whatever, but it *is* a fact that, as far as the commonest printers go,
you
can buy a new printer for the same price or cheaper than to get new ink
cartridges for it!

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.











I used to refill cartridges with excellent results.

It may be a tad more difficult now.

Andy

The biggest problem I've had with refilled inkjet cartridges is that the
printer quite often wouldn't see it as a new one or a full one, and would
throw up an error message.

 

[Paul]

The biggest problem I've had with refilled inkjet cartridges is that the
printer quite often wouldn't see it as a new one or a full one, and
would throw up an error message.

Some brands of printers, use "chipped" inkjet cartridges. That
means a chip keeps track of the fill level, and is intended to
defeat home refillers. The chip contains an EEPROM, which is
updated while the printer is being used, and the chip allows
them to keep track of how many prints have been made.

The intention of the inkjet industry, is to sell the printer cheap,
then make a profit on the ink. A chipped cartridge enables that
business model. Otherwise, if they charged enough to make profit
from the printer alone, it would be much more expensive. That's
how they can ship "all-in-one" designs at attractive prices. And
perhaps, out-compete any laser printer competitor.

I feel the model for this, was established by a company selling
a certain, superior printing technology, where the printer cost
around $10000 to purchase. Sales were poor. (Only our division
Vice President could afford one, and I printed one page on that
printer, with the permission of his secretary.) The change they made,
was to virtually give away the printer, in exchange for a supply
contract, where the expendables were provided by them and
billed per month or whatever. That removed the high purchase
price, as a barrier to entry. (This works, as long as the
purchaser isn't examining the bills, and working out what it
really costs to print with the printer. Even inkjets cost
an arm and a leg, if you're not paying attention to how
much you print.)

The inkjet industry picked up on that innovation, and do
something similar. If they can "lock you into" one ink
supply, then the profits are all theirs.

Not all inkjet makers do that. I haven't been keeping track,
but you can find at least one brand of printer that isn't chipped.
And then, home refilling is an option.

To add insult to injury, at least one "chipped" inkjet printer,
when you're not printing to it, likes to wipe the heads if
you leave it powered. Wiping the heads, with a little splurt of
ink, is intended to keep the head clog free. It also has the
distinct advantage for the manufacturer, of draining the ink
cartridge, even when the user isn't printing. It's a
design innovation made in heaven. If you own one of those
printers, turn it off, remove power from it

If you were saying to yourself "that's a giant ripoff", you'd
be right. And you'd be surprised at the number of people, that
don't total up what they're paying for ink for printers like
that, and realize what they're paying per printed page. If you're
printing "laser printer" quantities, you should own a laser
printer. Much cheaper.

Paul

 

[glee]

I am looking for recommendations for a printer for my XP Home Edition.

My HP printer went dead after only 2 years, so HP is out of the
running
for any more purchases from me. ( I have an old HP scanner that is
still running fine.)

I am looking for a reliable printer that will last at least 3 years.

In shopping, it looks like all you can get are all-in-ones, unless you
go with a laser.

Cost per page is VERY important.

In reviews I have seen, there are none that actually verify the price/
page, they just take
the manufacture's word.

HP makes great printers in general, but the software installed with them
has a history of causing problems. Some of the best inkjet printers
available for consumers are made by Canon, and many of them have the
lowest cost per page. If you don't want a multi-function, select from
the photo inkjet models:
http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/printers_multifunction

You'll have to search the replacement cartridges to discover what setup
each model has. The lowest cost per page will often be with models that
have separate cartridges for each color (cyan, magenta, yellow) instead
of one color cartridge with the 3 colors all in one cartridge. However
those models will be more expensive. I have a budget Canon iP2600 that
I think I bought new for $35. It has one color cartridge and one black,
but I still get decent cost per page and have never had to waste ink
with repeated head cleaning as I did with my old Epsons.

Kodak makes some inkjet printers that have the lowest cost per page (the
ESP5, for example) but the print quality is poor, and the printer is
slow.

P.S. Has anyone bought up cartridges in quantity and used them say one
year later?
Did they still work and print expected number of pages?

Ink cartridges have expiration dates on them...they are there for a
reason.

 

[Mint]

HP makes great printers in general, but the software installed with them
has a history of causing problems.  Some of the best inkjet printers
available for consumers are made by Canon, and many of them have the
lowest cost per page.  If you don't want a multi-function, select from
the photo inkjet models:http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/printers_multifunction

You'll have to search the replacement cartridges to discover what setup
each model has.  The lowest cost per page will often be with models that
have separate cartridges for each color (cyan, magenta, yellow) instead
of one color cartridge with the 3 colors all in one cartridge.  However
those models will be more expensive.  I have a budget Canon iP2600 that
I think I bought new for $35.  It has one color cartridge and one black,
but I still get decent cost per page and have never had to waste ink
with repeated head cleaning as I did with my old Epsons.

Kodak makes some inkjet printers that have the lowest cost per page (the
ESP5, for example) but the print quality is poor, and the printer is
slow.


Ink cartridges have expiration dates on them...they are there for a
reason.

Thanks.

I will seriously consider a Canon for it's reliability.
Companies that make good products will probably charge about the same
as others for their cartridges.

Andy

 

[SC Tom]

Thanks for the info.

The best resource is probably patience.

Keep asking around and I'm considering a used one.

My decision not to buy HP products is also based on an HP computer
that my mother has.

Within a year, the hard drive and monitor went out.

For comparison, I still have a 10 yr. old Dell Optiplex that is still
running.

Take care,
Andy

I always thought HP should have stayed with the printer sector, but the HP
desktops, workstations and notebooks I worked with were plenty reliable for
the most part.

For grins and giggles, I went to Staple's site and picked the 3 cheapest
injet printers.

Epson Workforce30 69.99 4-cartridges for 57.78 (multipack) 350 pages per
cartridge.

Canon Pixma iP3600 79.99 4-cartridges for 52.79 (multipack) most customer
cons are short cartridge life (no listing for the cartridges as pages to be
expected.)

HP OfficeJet 60 89.99 4-cartridges for 76.96 (individually sold) 700
pages per cartridge.

All three of them had 4 out of 5 star ratings.

 

[Mint]

I always thought HP should have stayed with the printer sector, but the HP
desktops, workstations and notebooks I worked with were plenty reliable for
the most part.

For grins and giggles, I went to Staple's site and picked the 3 cheapest
injet printers.

SC Tom
-There's no such thing as TMI when asking for tech support.

Speaking of grins and giggles.

I had to use an angle grinder to salvage parts for my HP printer.

I am going to give HP the benefit of the doubt.

They make their printers that way so they can't be used as
I.E.D.s.

Have a great day,
Andy

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