Generic or compatible ink cartridges

[measekite]

From what I've read, some of the ink sold as aftermarket is made by
the same companies who make OEM ink. Therefore, they could end up
trying to
prove their own ink is inferior

totally ridiculuoius. it is not the factory the ink is made in it is
the formulation and that is patented by the oem mfg. i think that it
taught in senior high school labs.

 

[measekite]

Your first assumption is usually not correct. Most countries actually
have laws preventing manufacturers from excluding the use of 3rd party
during the warranty period. They are obligated to prove that an
inferior ink actually caused the claimed defect.

that is easy to do. just examine the clogged printhead and prove that
it is not oem.

3rd party inks vary considerably.

snip
and since the relabelers will not tell you who the mfg/formulator is you
have no way to follow the performance of the product.

There are Durabrite and Ultrachrome equivalent inks on the market,
however, Epson has some patents on their ink which make them difficult
to produce at a reasonable costs. The saving may vary from $.50 up to
$20 per cartridge, depending on the type used.

The best way to manage to avoid the pitfalls of bad ink is to keep in
touch with other users (such as here or groups) and groups specific to
your printer brand. People who use bulk or 3rd party inks can express
their experiences on the ink and paper they are using and leave it to
each of us to decide.

that is poor since many of these so called users are plants inside ng
and forums making up many false claims. they pretend to be benefactors.

 

[Jon O'Brien]

...many of these so called users are plants inside ng
and forums making up many false claims.

As many of us have long suspected that you are.

Jon.

 

[zakezuke]

Measekite said: Snipped per request

Sure, it's a conspiricy man. This whole aftermarket ink gag is a poor
attempt is a front for dorld womination... by none other than Inky and
the Stain.... and we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for
those pesky kids and that dumb dog.

 

[Frank]

From what I've read, some of the ink sold as aftermarket is made by the
same companies who make OEM ink. Therefore, they could end up trying to
prove their own ink is inferior

-Taliesyn

Very true! Happens all the time.
Frank

 

[Bob Headrick]

Has anyone here used Calidad refill kits for HP pigmented inks? Like
the HP 98 96 95 97 99 ?

The 95, 97 and 99 are dye based inks, not pigmented.

- Bob Headrick

 

[Bob Headrick]

Calidad inks

Yes I have used them for many years in my HP670 and HP690 printers. I
never had a problem with clogging at all.

Be aware that the 95/97 cartrdiges have drop sizes about 10x smaller
than those from the old 600 series printers.

- Bob Headrick

 

[Gary Tait]

would never consider it. do not want to have a messy leak ruining my
hp printer

I'd never consider it either, I don't think they are a reputable vendor, on
hobbyist refill circles.

 

[Gary Tait]

All-RIGHT!!!

I Googled up MIS and they don't have ink for my model. But I love the
transparent cartridges.

I can't find Hobbiecolors?

Try hobbicolors. Search for them on eBay, as they exclusively sell
there. If they don't have what you want, ask.

 

[Ed Light]

Try hobbicolors.

hobbicolors.com's HP link is dead. It links to someplace on the same page
that doesn't exist.

I used the e-mail link to notify them.


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[Taliesyn]

hobbicolors.com's HP link is dead. It links to someplace on the same page
that doesn't exist.

I used the e-mail link to notify them.

I'd say it's a link to a future offering. Obviously, HP compatible ink
isn't available yet. Same for Epson.

-Taliesyn

 

[measekite]

they are afraid that the customer will go to their supplier so they will
not disclose what they are selling. this is what they are publically
telling people.

 

[TJ]

Just for the sake of accuracy and ease of understanding:

Inkjet, bubblejet, or giclee printers use INKS

The inks come in cartridges either with or without a printer head.

The inks may be dye colorant (the color is dissolves in the liquid base,
usually water), pigment colorant (the color is made of particles
suspended in the base, usually water plus an adhesive water based
plastic), or a hybrid sometimes referred to as "pigmented" which can
have pigment grains that are further dyed.

If one has a bottle of refill ink labeled "pigmented" and it's not moved
more than once a month or so, should the bottle be shaken to re-suspend
any particles that may have settled out before refilling?

TJ

 

[measekite]

If one has a bottle of refill ink labeled "pigmented" and it's not
moved more than once a month or so, should the bottle be shaken to
re-suspend any particles that may have settled out before refilling?

it will clog your printer if you shake it or do not shake it. pigmented
heads have a tendency to clog when used irregularly

 

[TJ]

it will clog your printer if you shake it or do not shake it. pigmented
heads have a tendency to clog when used irregularly

I'll take that risk assessment under advisement, and consider it for
what it is worth. How about answering the question I asked?

TJ

 

[Frank]

I'll take that risk assessment under advisement, and consider it for
what it is worth. How about answering the question I asked?

TJ

Meahsershithead to actually answer any question truthfully?
Don't hold your breath!
Frank

 

[Arthur Entlich]

It probably wouldn't hurt to do so. Try to avoid shaking to the point
of making foam or bubbles.

Art

 

[ytrewq]

Basically ALL inkjet printer ink is pigmented <<

Huh? I don't think this is true. Please provide some sort of evidence for
this statement.

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[Ed Light]

Note: I may have recommended the HP 5940 in this thread. My new one has just
turned out to not print below 1/2" from the bottom of the page. Not sure if
this is a defect or design -- have filed a support ticket.


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[Bob Headrick]

Note: I may have recommended the HP 5940 in this thread. My new one
has just turned out to not print below 1/2" from the bottom of the
page. Not sure if this is a defect or design -- have filed a support
ticket.

See page 20 of the manual at:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00453087.pdf

Borderless printing is only available on special media, not on plain
paper.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging