freeware like Total Commander?

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cHris

Jarek said:
i'm looking for program that can replace Total Commander.

Some programs look like TC but no (freeware) program comes anywhere
near it in terms of features and versatility, and I've tried all of
them. Sometimes there is no real real alternative for $war€. :-(

cHris
 
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Bjorn Simonsen

cHris wrote in said:
Some programs look like TC but no (freeware) program comes anywhere
near it in terms of features and versatility, and I've tried all of
them. Sometimes there is no real real alternative for $war€. :-(

I agree. See copy of a previous post of mine below,
with some link for OP to look at.

D/L link there did not work. Found on the LastFreeware site:
<http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/page5.html>

Some other filemangers worth looking at:

PabloCommander <http://www.pablovandermeer.nl/commander.html>

A43 <http://www.shawneelink.net/~bgmiller/>

TurboNavigator <http://turbonavigator.us/>

Personally I have yet to find a freeware file manager that could
compete with, or which I like better than - the shareware
TotalCommander (formerly known as Windows Commander). Anyway,
IMHO anything is better than Exploder... well almost. Even
good old Windows File Manager - as we know it from Win3x.

Speaking of....you can get a LFN aware copy of WinFile.exe (aka File
manager) file version 4.0.1371.1 from WinNT 4.0 SP4,
D/L link in line 71, right column,on:
<http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm>.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
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Roger Johansson

Bjorn Simonsen said:
Personally I have yet to find a freeware file manager that could
compete with, or which I like better than - the shareware
TotalCommander (formerly known as Windows Commander).

I am thinking about moving over to linux, but TC is my main problem.
Is there any freeware even close to TC in the linux world?

I believe there will soon will be, as more good programmers work together
on an open source freeware replacement for a really good file manager.

A linux replacement for windows powerpro is also on the wish list, to
enable customization freaks and shellers to create their own interfaces and
help systems.

Instead of a special program for that purpose it could maybe be replaced by
a system of scripts and visual elements from some common programming
language in linux.
 
J

Joachim Ziebs

Hi Roger!

Roger said:
I am thinking about moving over to linux, but TC is my main problem.
Is there any freeware even close to TC in the linux world?

Take your pick:
-Midnight Commander
-Worker
-Krusader

Greetings,

Joachim
 
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Bjorn Simonsen

Roger Johanson wrote in said:
I am thinking about moving over to linux, but TC is my main problem.
Is there any freeware even close to TC in the linux world?

TCmd is a NC clone, there are many NC clones, both in the DOS and
Linux World. The following makes a good read for starters
<http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml> :)

Something to consider trying: Jump over to the TCMD website
www.ghisler.com, enter web forum, enter search page, select search in
English forum only (unless you speak German and French) - enter search
term: Linux. See what you find. (and bring neat summary back here <g>)


All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
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Roger Johansson

Bjorn Simonsen said:
TCmd is a NC clone, there are many NC clones, both in the DOS and

Yes, I know that, and I have tried all of them in the windows world.
PC-Tools was my favorite file manager for many years in the DOS era and I
had every version of PC-Tools up to ver 7 or 8 when they suddenly
disappeared. My theory is that they were bought up and used as the basis
for some office package or shell system. By then PC-Tools had grown out to
a shell like Windows and the beginning of an office system, and was maybe
seen as a threat by some big players in the field.
Maybe PC-Tools was bought up and killed off as a potential competitor.

PC-Tools is one of the few DOS programs which cannot be run under windows,
maybe they are using the same shell mechanism so they collide with each
other.
Linux World. The following makes a good read for starters
<http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml> :)

I know there are file managers in linux, and I have used midnight
commander, but I was asking about a really good one, in the TC class.
Something to consider trying: Jump over to the TCMD website
www.ghisler.com, enter web forum, enter search page, select search in
English forum only (unless you speak German and French) - enter search
term: Linux. See what you find. (and bring neat summary back here <g>)

Done that, found very little, no signs of a port of TC to linux.
TC is said to nearly work under Wine.

Even if it can work under Wine it is not a good solution, because a linux
file manager needs other functions, needs to work with other types of
files, needs to work with the basic functions in another operating system,
etc..
That is the reason why it cannot just be compiled to work under linux, that
wouldn't solve the big problems in changing it to work in another
environment.

Even if it could be ported successfully it wouldn't satisfy my wish for an
open source freeware file manager like TC.
TC is nagware/payware.
 
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Duddits

Hello,
i'm looking for program that can replace Total Commander.

Nothing free that I know of. I'm a registered Servant Salamander user
myself. 2.5 beta4 is out now - free for 30 days.

regards

Dud
 
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Bjorn Simonsen

Roger Johansson wrote in
I know there are file managers in linux, and I have used midnight
commander, but I was asking about a really good one, in the TC class.

Fwiw: I get the impression that this group is heavily dominated by
Windows users (me included), but I am sure there must be some
experienced Linux users among us that can reply. But if not, or
anyway, maybe it would be a good idea to ask in a Linux group for
suggestions. And if so, I would also ask if anyone knows of any ready
to go Linux boot CD's that bundles "a pile" of file managers, a few at
least, preferably the assumed best of the best, so you could have a
look at "whats out there".
Done that, found very little, no signs of a port of TC to linux.

OK, I sort of expected that. I was also thinking along the lines that
maybe somebody there, while arguing amongst them selves :), perhaps
would mention any Linux alternatives they think resembles their
beloved Windows TCMD - at least to a certain degree - or the opposite
- how far off target most Linux FMs are compared to TCMD.
TC is said to nearly work under Wine.
Even if it can work under Wine it is not a good solution, because a linux
file manager needs other functions, needs to work with other types of
files, needs to work with the basic functions in another operating system,
etc..

I agree.
That is the reason why it cannot just be compiled to work under linux, that
wouldn't solve the big problems in changing it to work in another
environment.

I'm no programmer, but at the URL I gave you -
<http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/Ofm_05.shtml#Total_commander>
Dr. Bezroukov writes about TCMD

<quote>
TC is written in Delphi, so it is an interesting demonstration
of the superiority of Pascal for this particular type of
applications ;-). But that means that it's not portable. Moreover
while Delphi is definitely superior to C or C++ for this kind of
applications still it's a pretty large program (over 100K lines
of code)."
Even if it could be ported successfully it wouldn't satisfy my wish for an
open source freeware file manager like TC.

I prefer free/open source too when possible.
TC is nagware/payware.

I rather like to think of it as
<quote>
"true shareware without expiration date or limited
functionality (un-registered version has to press one
random choice button at the beginning of the session)."
</quote>
...from the URL above.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
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rir3760

It was a dark and stormy night when ms said:
With a W98 machine, you still have to run xplorer2 from Redundancy
Walker.

I think you mean 'Dependency walker' (a very nice app by the way).
<http://www.dependencywalker.com/>

And it's better if you start xplorer2 from DW as it allow you to
ignore some errors but it's not a requirement, you can check the text
file 'Alpha.txt' for more specific details.
I don't know why he has not fixed that.

xplorer2 is a *debug* release meant to be used by people willing to
give Nikos a lot of feedback about bugs/features so we can
(eventually) get a version stable enough to be labelled 'Beta' (and
from there to stable release builds) and that fact is *clearly*
stated in the readme file, about box and its homepage. :)
2XExplorer still works fine.

And is faster than the current version of xplorer2 but the big
downside now with 2xExplorer is that it's not being developed
anymore, all the new features are only for xplorer2.

Regards
 
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Roger Johansson

Bjorn Simonsen said:
<quote>
TC is written in Delphi, so it is an interesting demonstration
of the superiority of Pascal for this particular type of
applications ;-). But that means that it's not portable. Moreover
while Delphi is definitely superior to C or C++ for this kind of
applications still it's a pretty large program (over 100K lines
of code)."
</quote>

I am not sure what he means by that. I looked at Lazarus in Free Pascal
last night, which is said to be a Delphi compatible language and works in
both windows and linux.

They have some more development to do, I think, because it crashed easily
in my computer, but there is no reason Delphi programs cannot be ported to
linux when there is such a cross platform language like Lazarus.
I prefer free/open source too when possible.


I rather like to think of it as
<quote>
"true shareware without expiration date or limited
functionality (un-registered version has to press one
random choice button at the beginning of the session)."
</quote>

Considering that the user only has to start it when he reboots it is
possible to use without paying anything , but it wouldn't be moralistic to
use it more than 30 days like that, of course :)
 
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Roger Johansson

dszady said:
TrackerV3 is an Advanced File System Explorer targeting everybody who is
looking for a real alternative to the Windows Explorer ...

http://www.trackerv3.com/index.htm
Screen shots:
http://www.trackerv3.com/shots.htm

Interesting program, with a nice licens, free for private use.
But I would rather call it a file viewer than a file manager.
It is more like Irfanview and Xnview than total commander.
There are move and copy features though, working in new ways.

I could start two instances of trackerV3 and drag-n-drop files from one to
the other, for the user who is used to a two-pane interface.

It is fast, both starting and listing of folder contents, and the preview
can be changed to full view with left or right mouse button in interesting
ways.

It is easier to use than Irfanview, but has different features.
It's a keeper, but I will have to look at it more to see more exactly when
and how to use it.
The gdiplus.dll file you need for it was easier to search for and get from
the web than to try to wrestle with microsoft to get it.
 
S

Spoon2001

rir3760 said:
xplorer2 is a *debug* release meant to be used by people willing to
give Nikos a lot of feedback about bugs/features so we can
(eventually) get a version stable enough to be labelled 'Beta' (and
from there to stable release builds) and that fact is *clearly*
stated in the readme file, about box and its homepage. :)

Yes, but I think it's very advanced and stable for an "Alpha" release -
0.0.0.57 - the last alpha release before officially moving to Beta status.

I use xplorer2 0.0.0.57 as my file manager and am very happy with it. It
has features I doubt you'd find anywhere else.
 

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