Forgive me asking this a second time but.....

[tophy]

Forgive me asking this for a second time but how is Microsoft
recommending I view KHz (sample rate) on my audio files?

 

[Malke]

yes please, someone answer this, because it is yet another absolutely
stupid omission: sample rate, bit depth (which is not working for me),
and number of channels, are absolutely essential for anyone working in
the audio industry.
Seriously how f***ing stupid is this??

Flip answer: Just about as stupid as trying to post to Usenet using a
"website" that just leeches Usenet posts because the people who would help
you can't see the previous posts in the thread and not quoting anything
that would help us help you.

Nicer and more complete answer so you can get the help you want:

You are not posting on a real forum as you think you are and you didn't
quote any of the thread to which you are replying. You are using a web
interface that leeches Usenet posts and most of the rest of us are using
real newsreaders. We don't see what you do. If you want to participate in
Usenet, the better way is to set up a newsreader. This is very easy to do
and I'll give you information about that below. If you prefer to use a
forum, then here are two excellent ones:

http://forum.aumha.org/index.php
http://http://computerhaven.info/

Since you are using a web interface, you may not realize that this is really
a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you learn to use
a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows, but you can use
Outlook Express (XP) or Windows Mail (Vista) since you already have it.
Here are some links to information about newsgroups:

About Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/ - Usenet FAQs from the Internet FAQ Archives
http://www.usenetmonster.com/infocenter/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief explanation
of newsgroups

Outlook Express/Windows Mail as Newsreader:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/accessing_newsgrousp_with-windows_mail.htm

How to Post:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 - How to Ask a Question
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.htm - How Not to Get Technical Help on
Usenet


http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is working
properly
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm - how to munge email address
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting - crossposting
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm - multiposting

Other Newsreaders for Windows:
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php - Forte
http://www.mozilla.org - Thunderbird

From the few details included in your post, I surmise that you are working
in the audio industry and aren't getting what you need from your hardware
under Vista. My understanding from talking to people in the audio industry
is that there are specialized sound cards used (not the consumer-level ones
found in consumer-level computers), costing many hundreds of dollars. Do
you have this kind of hardware? If yes and it isn't working under Vista,
make sure you include the make/model of your sound card and what the
mftr.'s tech support people had to say in your next post.

Malke

 

[Malke]

Well my mistake then, but if you look, you will see the previous post
stated
I second that query. The same poster has asked this elsewhere and there
appears to be no solution.

No, the main point I made to you in my first reply was that THOSE OF US
USING NEWSREADERS DON'T SEE WHAT YOU DO. So when you use one of these
Usenet leeching sites AND don't quote anything that went before, those of
us participating in the MS public newsgroups - which is USENET - do not see
the previous posts. I don't know how else I can make this clearer.

As to the rest of your reponse, I have to say it was f***ing
patronising in the extreme, but I'm sure you thought you were just being
helpful.

Just responding to the tone of *your* post, but yes I was trying to help
you. After all, you are the one with the problem and I possibly am the one
(or there are others) who has the answer.

Just to be pedantic about this, let me clarify:

It isn't being "pedantic" to quote and/or clarify the issue because unless
you do that, PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS. I
really do hope this is clear to you now and that you understand that I'm
not being mean or patronizing; I'm just trying to help you.

In Windows XP, when you view a folder, there are a number of audio
specific details available as viewing options, which include sample
rate, bit depth, and number of channels.

Now,considering we are at point in time where files might have sample
rates anywhere from 11kHz to 192kHz, depending on the intended use of
the media, it's very useful to be abe to browse a folder, within
Windows, using explorer, and quickly assess the atributes of various
audio files; I could open my DAW and do this, but why should I need to
run another program, open a project, and use the import option just to
view file atributes? Yes I could use third party explorer based software
but wtf should I need to do that for?

The answer to the above is because that's the way the operating system was
written. Yes, I think you need to use third-party software. Whinging about
why an operating system doesn't do what you want is useless. Either use an
open source one like Linux and write your own extensions for the window
manager, find an operating system that will do what you want out of the
box, or use third-party software that does what you want and that works in
the operating system you do want to use.

I'm not an audio-person but I just did a Get Info on one of my .mp3 files.
It shows the Channel count and bit rate. Is this the sort of information
you want? I'm using Mac OS X 10.5.6. This would be like looking at a file's
Properties in Windows so I don't think the information shows up in category
headings here in the Finder, either. I would need to do some research to
see if the categories could be added and since I don't care about this
issue (and you don't use OS X), it would be a waste of time. If in future
you consider switching to OS X, this is something you should probably look
into first.

Go to Vista, open a folder, go to view, and select choose details, and
tell me if you see an option for sample rate.

I'll take your word for it that there isn't one.

It's not there, you can arrange files according to the smell of your
dogs ******** but you can't choose sample rate.

Oh well. See comments above.

Malke

 

[Retroman]

Well my mistake then, but if you look, you will see the previous post
stated
I second that query. The same poster has asked this elsewhere and there
appears to be no solution.

As to the rest of your reponse, I have to say it was f***ing
patronising in the extreme, but I'm sure you thought you were just being
helpful.

Just to be pedantic about this, let me clarify:

In Windows XP, when you view a folder, there are a number of audio
specific details available as viewing options, which include sample
rate, bit depth, and number of channels.

Now,considering we are at point in time where files might have sample
rates anywhere from 11kHz to 192kHz, depending on the intended use of
the media, it's very useful to be abe to browse a folder, within
Windows, using explorer, and quickly assess the atributes of various
audio files; I could open my DAW and do this, but why should I need to
run another program, open a project, and use the import option just to
view file atributes? Yes I could use third party explorer based software
but wtf should I need to do that for?

Go to Vista, open a folder, go to view, and select choose details, and
tell me if you see an option for sample rate.

It's not there, you can arrange files according to the smell of your
dogs ******** but you can't choose sample rate.

Thank you for your time.

I'm using Vista Home Basic and the "Bit Rate" heading is indeed in the
list of optional headings for Win Explorer and it does work for my Mp3's.
Right-click on any heading and choose "More..." to see the list. I don't
know if other audio file types are supported.

Doug M. in NJ

 

[Michael Walraven]

FWIW:
Vista home premium Explorer will show 'bit rate' if asked to (add as column
item) when showing at least mp3 and wma files (not for folders).
Michael