For Logitech MX1000 laser mouse owners

[noone]

I don't know the *exact* figures but use your ****ing noggin' and use
some common sense. ALL WIRELESS DEVICES HAVE SOME LAG. Learn it now.

Just what I thought ...You don't know SHIT

I think you are living in the past. What is the source of this LAG ?

Do you even know how fast a radio wave travels vs electrical. The MX
1000 transmits mouse sample at the SAME speed as the Mx510 samples it
mouse.

I suggest you use your "noggen" and try reading something. You might
want to start with something other than your favorite "Gamer" "anti
cordless mouse" forum.

 

[noone]

Possible. I bought a big bundle of Everlast batteries and they may
well have been crap.

LOL

So you blamed the cordless device and post dozens of messages slagging
said device and now you admit the batteries may have sucked.

LOL

 

[noone]

The question is "what does that do for a gamer?", marketing has
nothing to do with it.

Try to focus we were talking about Marketing.

But coming from someone that openly admits they don't actually know
any specs or stats it surprises me you think Marketing had nothing to
do with your decision.

I think your corded mouse is tangled around your neck and cutting off
your oxygen.

 

[noone]

The 510 was never marketed as a "gamer's" mouse.

Oh sorry I see it is now marketed as a
Logitech® MX™510 Performance Optical Mouse
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Although this could have changed since its first release. Either way
it was the mouse to beat at the time.

and the 518 is only a
Logitech® MX™518 Gaming-Grade™ Optical Mouse
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gamer Grade ?
Does that mean it's not really a "gamer" mouse?

I think you've been had You bought a "gamer grade" but not a true
"gamer" mouse.
Marketing sucker!

No, also because it is better - period.

Well geee hasn't it always been that way?

It kind of like the MX1000 being better than past cordless devices.
Amazing!

 

[John Doe]

Try to focus we were talking about Marketing. But coming from
someone that openly admits they don't actually know any specs or
stats it surprises me you think Marketing had nothing to do
with your decision.

Good point IMO.

I am (TTS) reading dozens of comments on Amazon.com. Some of them
complain about the scroll wheel not causing correct scrolling
action in certain Windows. Another post suggests that the
application controls scrolling. I concur with that. A mouse or
keyboard just sends a code to the system (or "framework") and the
system sends that code to applications (in a chain I think). The
application processing the input determines what it will do with
the code. Windows has specific codes for scroll wheel input. I
cannot imagine how or why the MX1000 would send a different code.

Have fun.

 

[noone]

Good point IMO.

I am (TTS) reading dozens of comments on Amazon.com. Some of them
complain about the scroll wheel not causing correct scrolling
action in certain Windows. Another post suggests that the
application controls scrolling. I concur with that. A mouse or
keyboard just sends a code to the system (or "framework") and the
system sends that code to applications (in a chain I think). The
application processing the input determines what it will do with
the code. Windows has specific codes for scroll wheel input. I
cannot imagine how or why the MX1000 would send a different code.

Never had that problem.

 

[Chris Townsend]

Hah, 25 posts in a thread that proves only yet again that some prefer
cordless and some prefer corded, talk about trolls, you on a quest to free
us all from cords? How noble, how worthwhile you are.

 

[schmo]

Just what I thought ...You don't know SHIT

I think you are living in the past. What is the source of this LAG ?

Do you even know how fast a radio wave travels vs electrical. The MX
1000 transmits mouse sample at the SAME speed as the Mx510 samples it
mouse.

I suggest you use your "noggen" and try reading something. You might
want to start with something other than your favorite "Gamer" "anti
cordless mouse" forum.

The wave travel time is similar for both, on the order of the speed of
light. The big difference is that a radio device will eventually hit
interference from other radios, odd reflections, etc. It may sample at
the same speed, but it has to throw out a significantly higher number
of samples that the error-checking flags as "junk".

I tried an MX700 a while back, I liked it but the heavy-ass batteries
did it for me. Switched to an MX510 and haven't looked back.

 

[John Doe]

....

The wave travel time is similar for both, on the order of the speed of
light. The big difference is that a radio device will eventually hit
interference from other radios, odd reflections, etc. It may sample at
the same speed, but it has to throw out a significantly higher number
of samples that the error-checking flags as "junk".

Do have any citations/references for that claim?

This appears to be your second post to Usenet,
in a total of one day.

 

[guess]

I don't know the *exact* figures but use your ****ing noggin' and use
some common sense. ALL WIRELESS DEVICES HAVE SOME LAG. Learn it now.

If you are going to be THAT picky, then all WIRED devices have some lag as
well. After all, it takes a certain amount of time for the signal to travel
from the mouse button, through the wires, into the computer logic, then for
the decision by the computer logic to get calculated, then sent out, then
for the the image of that change to travel from the monitor to your eye.

 

[John Doe]

Hah, 25 posts in a thread that proves only yet again that some
prefer cordless and some prefer corded,

Why would anyone prefer a corded device?

talk about trolls, you on a quest to free us all from cords? How
noble, how worthwhile you are.

Just looking for the facts.

Assuming a new technology has problems, if all goes well at some
point the technology eclipses the problems. At that point, there
is no reason to hang on to the old technology, except maybe for a
difference in price.

Some of the problems I read about the MX1000 are clearly
associated with user error or careless misconception.

Some said the mouse "wobbles".

Some say scrolling is wrong, even though the mouse is not what
controls scrolling, the application controls scrolling.

Some reviewers say the buttons are too difficult to press. Others
say the buttons are too easy to press.

 

[Fred]

Why would anyone prefer a corded device?

Why ask why?

Just looking for the facts.

Non sequitur.

Assuming a new technology has problems, if all goes well at some point
the technology eclipses the problems. At that point, there is no
reason to hang on to the old technology, except maybe for a difference in
price.

Reason is the capacity for logical, rational, and analytic thought;
intelligence. I can see why you have no reason.

Some of the problems I read about the MX1000 are clearly associated with
user error or careless misconception.

You should be more careful.

Some said the mouse "wobbles".

Classic disregard for netiquette, as evidenced by your ongoing replies.

Some say scrolling is wrong, even though the mouse is not what controls
scrolling, the application controls scrolling.

Amazing. You have been trained to be delusional.

Some reviewers say the buttons are too difficult to press.

What do you mean by difficult?

Others say the buttons are too easy to press.

You say the buttons are too easy to press; I will say "you drolling,
abscessed, splotched toilet cleaner."

 

[Chris Townsend]

Maybe it is just me but I haven't been happy with any of the recent cordless
mice, I got the MX700 as part of the cordless desktop with keyboard, love
the keyboard but the MX 700 didn't last long as I didn't like the heft or
the shape as much as my Logi dual optical and to me it didn't feel as
accurate in PhotoShop, it was used with my HTPC for a while and worked quite
well for that purpose but I ended up throwing it in with a PC I built for a
cousins daughter and getting a Gyration Gyro mouse for the HTPC. The MX1000
is picky about surfaces, it wouldn't work with my mousepad and I thought I
was having driver issues it was so erratic but I found it tracked fine on my
fake-wood bare desktop, still I found I far preferred my MX510, favorite
mouse I have ever owned, the MX1000 was not suitable for my HTPC because of
its fussiness about surfaces and its range was inferior to any wireless
mouse I have ever used with the HTPC it now sits unplugged, unused. There is
a lot to like about the MX1000 I suppose but it is not for me and not for a
lot of other people either, just simple preference, nothing to get upset
about. There are way to many people that do have issues with the MX1000 for
them to be dismissed just because for some reason you want everyone to love
it, don't quite get your obsession, er, some don't like it, believe it.

My first wireless mouse was the first Logi Wireless, a ball mouse, I swore I
would never go back to corded again but MS came out with the optical mouse
which was only available corded and the lack of a ball and the precision of
optical in apps such as PhotoShop far outweighed the advantages of cordless,
I bought the first Logi wireless optical when it came out and liked it well
enough but tried and loved the dual optical which was my favorite until the
MX510, basically I don't think of the cord as much of an inconvenience but
if a cordless comes out that I prefer over the 510 I will go wireless again,
I thought the MX1000 would be that mouse but it wasn't.

 

[Fred]

Maybe it is just me but I haven't been happy with any of the recent
cordless mice, I got the MX700 as part of the cordless desktop with
keyboard, love the keyboard but the MX 700 didn't last long as I didn't
like the heft or the shape as much as my Logi dual optical and to me it
didn't feel as accurate in PhotoShop, it was used with my HTPC for a while
and worked quite well for that purpose but I ended up throwing it in with
a PC I built for a cousins daughter and getting a Gyration Gyro mouse for
the HTPC.

You should like the heft or the shape as much as your logi dual optical and
to you it did not feel as accurate in photoshop.

The MX1000 is picky about surfaces, it wouldn't work with my mousepad
and I thought I was having driver issues it was so erratic but I found it
tracked fine on my fake-wood bare desktop, still I found I far preferred
my MX510, favorite mouse I have ever owned, the MX1000 was not suitable
for my HTPC because of its fussiness about surfaces and its range was
inferior to any wireless mouse I have ever used with the HTPC it now sits
unplugged, unused.

I am no more impressed by your transient encounter with lucidity than I
would be by a phonograph's momentary and inexplicable ability to stop
skipping.

There is a lot to like about the MX1000 I suppose but it is not for me
and not for a lot of other people either, just simple preference, nothing
to get upset about.

You get upset very easily.

There are way to many people that do have issues with the MX1000 for
them to be dismissed just because for some reason you want everyone to
love it, don't quite get your obsession, er, some don't like it, believe
it.

What do you want from life?

My first wireless mouse was the first Logi Wireless, a ball mouse, I
swore I would never go back to corded again but MS came out with the
optical mouse which was only available corded and the lack of a ball and
the precision of optical in apps such as PhotoShop far outweighed the
advantages of cordless, I bought the first Logi wireless optical when it
came out and liked it well enough but tried and loved the dual optical
which was my favorite until the MX510, basically I don't think of the cord
as much of an inconvenience but if a cordless comes out that I prefer over
the 510 I will go wireless again, I thought the MX1000 would be that mouse
but it wasn't.

I think you're wrong, Townsend.

 

[John Doe]

Maybe it is just me but I haven't been happy with any of the
recent cordless mice, I got the MX700 as part of the cordless
desktop with keyboard, love the keyboard but the MX 700 didn't
last long as I didn't like the heft or the shape as much as my
Logi dual optical and to me it didn't feel as accurate in
PhotoShop, it was used with my HTPC for a while and worked quite
well for that purpose but I ended up throwing it in with a PC I
built for a cousins daughter and getting a Gyration Gyro mouse
for the HTPC. The MX1000 is picky about surfaces, it wouldn't
work with my mousepad

Why use a mouse pad? The mouse pad was originally invented for
ball mice.

If it does not work on your bare desk/whatever, try various
surfaces. Making or finding a square/rectangular mousing surface
should be easy enough.

and I thought I was having driver issues
it was so erratic but I found it tracked fine on my fake-wood
bare desktop, still I found I far preferred my MX510, favorite
mouse I have ever owned, the MX1000 was not suitable for my HTPC
because of its fussiness about surfaces and its range was
inferior to any wireless mouse I have ever used with the HTPC it
now sits unplugged, unused.

Why don't you sell it or give it away?

By the way, what is the manufacture date? It might be located on
the underside of the mouse.

There is
a lot to like about the MX1000 I suppose but it is not for me
and not for a lot of other people either, just simple
preference, nothing to get upset about. There are way to many
people that do have issues with the MX1000 for them to be
dismissed just because for some reason you want everyone to love
it,
Wrong.

don't quite get your obsession, er, some don't like it, believe
it.

I believe it. But again, preferences are not facts.

As I pointed out, some of the complaints are apparently
manufactured by user incompetence or careless misconception.

"The buttons are too difficult to press"
"The buttons are too easy to press"
"It is too big"
"It is just right"
"It is too heavy"
"It is lighter than other cordless mice"

"It wobbles"

that one is funny

 

[John Doe]

Naughty dizzy-queen goes hungry for supple gaycat with inflexible
cavity probe to hand out perverse circle ****s. Must be smitten by anal
collar wailing. Mail me at (e-mail address removed)

 

[Highlandish]

What is your experience with the Logitech MX 1000 laser mouse?

I am mainly concerned about precision and physical ease of use. Is
it noticeably better than other mice you have owned? How much
better? Is picking up the mouse a problem? Do you have to pick up
the mouse less than with other mice?

And, of course, how is your MX1000 for gaining?

Thank you.

love it and swear by it, the only complaint I have is when I am using it on
my lap and lean back in my chair watching tv, it can easily slide to the
floor, and with no string I have to retrieve it the old fashioned way
instead if dragging it back with the chord.

 

[Highlandish]

What is your experience with the Logitech MX 1000 laser mouse?

I am mainly concerned about precision and physical ease of use. Is
it noticeably better than other mice you have owned? How much
better? Is picking up the mouse a problem? Do you have to pick up
the mouse less than with other mice?

And, of course, how is your MX1000 for gaining?

Thank you.

can anyone compare the mx1000 with the latest razor?
http://www.razerzone.com/products/products_diamondback.php

 

[schmo]

Doesn't make me wrong, BTW that's an illogical "ad hominem attack". I
won't give you a cite for the speed of light since that's pretty common
knowledge.

Ad hominem attack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Wireless interference: http://www.embedded.com/story/OEG20020926S0055

 

[Fisher]

Doesn't make me wrong, BTW that's an illogical "ad hominem attack". I
won't give you a cite for the speed of light since that's pretty common
knowledge.

http://www.photonics.com/XQ/ASP/url.readarticle/artid.182/QX/readart.htm
On September 8, 2002, the planet Jupiter passed almost directly in
front of the radiowaves coming from a quasar, a star-like object in
the center of a galaxy billions of light-years away. When this
happened, Jupiter's gravity bent the quasar's radiowaves, causing a
slight delay in their arrival on Earth. Kopeikin believed the length
of time the radiowaves would be delayed would depend upon the speed at
which gravity propagates from Jupiter.