Files missing at startup

[Jack Bruss]

When my daughters computer starts up, we get three error messages, each of
which says a file is missing. The files are as follows:
C:\Windows\bxxs5.dll
C:\Windows\System32\inetp60.dll
C:\Downloaded program files\bridge.dll

Once we clear the error messages, the computer seems to work ok, but we
can't get on the internet, nor can we get on our home network.

I tried to run an anti virus program, but it wouldn't install because
another file was missing - shell.dll.

Any idea what the problem is?

Thanks,

Jack

 

[null]

When my daughters computer starts up, we get three error messages, each of
which says a file is missing. The files are as follows:

The first two are associated with Adware:

C:\Windows\bxxs5.dll
http://sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/pf/adware.bookedspace.html


http://sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.browseraid.html

C:\Downloaded program files\bridge.dll

This one is probably spyware:

http://www.pestpatrol.com/pestinfo/w/winfavorites_bridge.asp

Once we clear the error messages, the computer seems to work ok, but we
can't get on the internet, nor can we get on our home network.

I tried to run an anti virus program, but it wouldn't install because
another file was missing - shell.dll.

If you Google shell.dll you'll find that everyone and his brother is
getting an error message about that missing file

Any idea what the problem is?

Have you run AdAware and Spybot? Seems your daughter's PC is loaded
with various adwares and spywares (at least). Damn shame because all
that crap is so easy to avoid with safe hex and the use of sane
browsers instead of IE:

http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Pop Rivet]

....

Have you run AdAware and Spybot? Seems your daughter's PC is loaded
with various adwares and spywares (at least). Damn shame because all
that crap is so easy to avoid with safe hex and the use of sane
browsers instead of IE:

http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

You make me sorry I liked your site when I checked it out;
it's great infor for newbies. IMO, your comment about IE is
condescending, egocentric, self-serving, and otherwise
uncalled for. You are probably talking to someone whith
zero familiarity with adware, IE alternatives which aren't
necessary, and so on, so all you're doing is causing bad
feelings for the poster and possibly his innocent daughter.

I will resist recommending your site to anyone because of
this; there are plenty of other ones just as well written
and more concise.

Too bad,

Pop

 

[David H. Lipman]

Art's comments on IE are correct and apropos!

Even the US CERT has indicated NOT using IE due to all the vulnerabilities that IE brings to
the table.

Dave



| ...
| > Have you run AdAware and Spybot? Seems your daughter's PC
| is loaded
| > with various adwares and spywares (at least). Damn shame
| because all
| > that crap is so easy to avoid with safe hex and the use of
| sane
| > browsers instead of IE:
| >
| > http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html
| >
| >
| > Art
| > http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg
|
| You make me sorry I liked your site when I checked it out;
| it's great infor for newbies. IMO, your comment about IE is
| condescending, egocentric, self-serving, and otherwise
| uncalled for. You are probably talking to someone whith
| zero familiarity with adware, IE alternatives which aren't
| necessary, and so on, so all you're doing is causing bad
| feelings for the poster and possibly his innocent daughter.
|
| I will resist recommending your site to anyone because of
| this; there are plenty of other ones just as well written
| and more concise.
|
| Too bad,
|
| Pop
|
|

 

[Jeffrey A. Setaro]

Art's comments on IE are correct and apropos!

Even the US CERT has indicated NOT using IE due to all the vulnerabilities that IE brings to
the table.

Uh-huh... But he could have delivered the news in a more tactful
manner. Beyond that there are other risk mitigation steps Art could
have suggested.

Take a look at <http://www.spywareguide.com/blockfile.php> for one.


Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

 

[Savage]

Uh-huh... But he could have delivered the news in a more tactful
manner. Beyond that there are other risk mitigation steps Art could
have suggested.

Take a look at <http://www.spywareguide.com/blockfile.php> for one.


Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

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[Jack Bruss]

I've run Spybot, and it cleaned up a lot of stuff, but it didn't fix what's
in my original post. I haven't run Adaware, but I'll try that tomorrow.

 

[null]

Uh-huh... But he could have delivered the news in a more tactful
manner. Beyond that there are other risk mitigation steps Art could
have suggested.

Take a look at <http://www.spywareguide.com/blockfile.php> for one.

Never! Art recommends the use of sane browsers instead! No need for
that junk with the Gecko based browsers.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[null]

...

You make me sorry I liked your site when I checked it out;
it's great infor for newbies.

I can't reconcile that comment with the next one:

IMO, your comment about IE is
condescending, egocentric, self-serving, and otherwise
uncalled for.

How could a recommendation to not use IE be self serving.
condescending, egocentric and uncalled for when that's exactly what I
do at my web site that you say you liked? You don't make any sense at
all.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Jeffrey A. Setaro]

Never! Art recommends the use of sane browsers instead! No need for
that junk with the Gecko based browsers.

@#$%^&* Have you looked at the bug reports for Mozilla and FireFox
recently? It's not pretty... Suffices to say you're just trading one
set of problems for another.


Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

 

[Frederic Bonroy]

@#$%^&* Have you looked at the bug reports for Mozilla and FireFox
recently?

Do you have a link? The only recent security problem that I am aware of
is the one that led to the release of version 1.7.1, and that hole was
plugged within a few days.

It's not pretty... Suffices to say you're just trading one
set of problems for another.

No. IE has always been a sick puppy. Since Mozilla-based browsers don't
support ActiveX and the like, their users won't run into problems
related to that "technology". That's a good start, no? ;-)
Look at how common hijacking issues have become in recent months, and
they always concern - surprise - IE.

 

[null]

@#$%^&* Have you looked at the bug reports for Mozilla and FireFox
recently? It's not pretty... Suffices to say you're just trading one
set of problems for another.

I haven't looked in a week or two. What "bugs" related to serious
security problems do you have in mind?

You're offering bad advice here when you suggest to naive users to
continue using IE with activex enabled. The Gecko based browsers don't
come originally with a activex plugin, and by default they are far
safer for new and naive users right out of the box.

Also, we've long concurred that the claymania safe hex page
recommendation is to use a alternate browser. If you have a issue with
that recommendation now, why not bring it up on the private list for
review?


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven Frederic Bonroy:

Do you have a link? The only recent security problem that I am
aware of is the one that led to the release of version 1.7.1, and
that hole was plugged within a few days.

Plugged within about 12 hours.

In the address bar, enter: about:config
In the ensuing "filter" bar, enter: shell
If nothing shows, right-click in window, choose New > boolean
and add:
Preference Name:
network.protocol-handler.external.shell
Value:
false

That is all the patch does.

 

[Jeffrey A. Setaro]

I haven't looked in a week or two. What "bugs" related to serious
security problems do you have in mind?

Art; There more to this than security problems... Take look at the
number reports about web sites that don't render properly with
Mozilla.

You're offering bad advice here when you suggest to naive users to
continue using IE with activex enabled.

Where the @#$%^&* did I say that? Did you bother to look at the link I
posted or did you just spout off with your usually dump IE line.

The Gecko based browsers don't
come originally with a activex plugin, and by default they are far
safer for new and naive users right out of the box.

True but if you bothered to read the link posted and the associated MS
knowledge base article you see the are way dealing with "bad" activeX
controls that don't involve trading in one set of problem for another
different set. Personally, I'm about ready to toss Mozilla out on it
is back side and stick with Opera!

Also, we've long concurred that the claymania safe hex page
recommendation is to use a alternate browser. If you have a issue with
that recommendation now, why not bring it up on the private list for
review?

News flash: I haven't been paying attention to the list recently...
Now that I look at that page I'd like to see instructions on how to
harden IE security settings in addition to the "consider alternatives"
recommendation.

Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

 

[Jeffrey A. Setaro]

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:43:32 +0200, Frederic Bonroy

[Snip]

No. IE has always been a sick puppy.

No kidding... Microsoft really needs to blow up the current version
of IE and start over again.

Since Mozilla-based browsers don't
support ActiveX and the like, their users won't run into problems
related to that "technology". That's a good start, no? ;-)

It's just an activeX issue... I've run across enough web site that
don't render properly in Mozilla that work just in IE and Opera.

Look at how common hijacking issues have become in recent months, and
they always concern - surprise - IE.

I use IE on a daily basis and haven't had a problem... From what I've
seen the most of the hijacking issues crop up on systems that HAVEN'T
been patched.


Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

 

[Bart Bailey]

I'm about ready to toss Mozilla out on it
is back side and stick with Opera!

"about" ready?
whatcha waiting for?

 

[Jeffrey A. Setaro]

Do you have a link? The only recent security problem that I am aware of
is the one that led to the release of version 1.7.1, and that hole was
plugged within a few days.

[Snip]

<http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/vendor/> Search on vendor "Mozilla"

And then there's this one
<http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/369953/2004-07-25/2004-07-31/0>

Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

 

[Jeffrey A. Setaro]

"about" ready?
whatcha waiting for?

Monday...


Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_ME_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34

 

[null]

Art; There more to this than security problems... Take look at the
number reports about web sites that don't render properly with
Mozilla.

But we're talking security issues here, not about web designers who
refuse to cater to any browser except IE. Personally, I have
practically no problems any more using Moz 1.71. If there is a web
site worth looking at that Moz seems to have a problem with, I might
try IE. But my IE6 security is set to high in all zones including the
desktop, so if that doesn't work, then to hell with it The site
isn't worth it.

Where the @#$%^&* did I say that? Did you bother to look at the link I
posted or did you just spout off with your usually dump IE line.

Sure I looked at it. It concerned the use of a activex blocker.

True but if you bothered to read the link posted and the associated MS
knowledge base article you see the are way dealing with "bad" activeX
controls that don't involve trading in one set of problem for another
different set. Personally, I'm about ready to toss Mozilla out on it
is back side and stick with Opera!

That's an alternate browser, so what's this issue? My personal
preference happens to be Mozilla.

News flash: I haven't been paying attention to the list recently...

News flash. The recommendations have been that way for a very long
time.

Now that I look at that page I'd like to see instructions on how to
harden IE security settings in addition to the "consider alternatives"
recommendation.

That's a matter to debate on the list. Since Cert recommends not using
IE, and since many security experts have long advised against using
it, I thing that's a _very_ debateable issue.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[null]

Do you have a link? The only recent security problem that I am aware of
is the one that led to the release of version 1.7.1, and that hole was
plugged within a few days.

[Snip]

<http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/vendor/> Search on vendor "Mozilla"

Boredom set in quickly as I went down through and found that the most
recent vulnerabilites listed are ancient history ... version 1.0 when
Moz is up to 1.71. Be nice to be pointed to something applicable such
as a old security issue that hasn't been fixed along the way.

And then there's this one
<http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/369953/2004-07-25/2004-07-31/0>

Ah! A fairly recent Firefox cache issue. Well, that's something. I
guess


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg