Epson C82 is designed to fail, several times over

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braine_dead

My experience has been somewhat different with Epson C82.( 2 to 3 yrs)
I have never had a clog. I use PrintPal black and OEM color. I don't
print regularly or a great deal.
The air is dry (especially in Winter) with no humidifier here.
The only problem I had was using a cartridge(black) from Inksupply.com.

It needed a cleaning cycle before each printing.
(They did not replace it or refund the cost/I was a regular
customer...but not a big dollar one)

JM.02
 
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Arthur Entlich

I agree that inkjet companies should be more up front with their
clients. They should redesign the heads and head maintenance to reduce
clogs. The blame is enough to go around. Some ink companies, some
cartridge manufacturers, some inkjet printer designs.

Art

Davy wrote:
 
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ato_zee

I agree that inkjet companies should be more up front with their
clients. They should redesign the heads and head maintenance to reduce
clogs. The blame is enough to go around. Some ink companies, some
cartridge manufacturers, some inkjet printer designs.

Epson development labs report adding extra light and mid-grey cartridges,
to improve image quality. They say black underpins most images.
Also variable drop size technology, by varying the piezo drive voltage.
Also polymer coated drops to produce fully waterproof images.
Plus ability to print on many more substrates, including gold leaf and
textured surfaces, for greater creative freedom.
Results looked good, but I fear more heads to unclog.
 
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measekite

Epson development labs report adding extra light and mid-grey cartridges,
to improve image quality. They say black underpins most images.
Also variable drop size technology, by varying the piezo drive voltage.
Also polymer coated drops to produce fully waterproof images.
Plus ability to print on many more substrates, including gold leaf and
textured surfaces, for greater creative freedom.
Results looked good, but I fear more heads to unclog.
ESPECIALLY WITH AFTERMARKET INK
 
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measekite

Arthur said:
I agree that inkjet companies should be more up front with their
clients.

OH YEAH
They should redesign the heads and head maintenance to reduce clogs.

THEY SHOULD LOWER THE PRICE OF PREFILLED CARTS AND MAKE SURE IT IS
IMPOSSIBLE TO REFILL.
 
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measekite

My experience has been somewhat different with Epson C82.( 2 to 3 yrs)
I have never had a clog. I use PrintPal
TRASH

black and OEM color. I don't
print regularly or a great deal.
The air is dry (especially in Winter) with no humidifier here.
The only problem I had was using a cartridge(black) from Inksupply.com.

It needed a cleaning cycle before each printing.
(They did not replace it or refund the cost/I was a regular
customer...but not a big dollar one)

JM.02
 
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Bob

I agree that inkjet companies should be more up front with their
clients. They should redesign the heads and head maintenance to reduce
clogs. The blame is enough to go around. Some ink companies, some
cartridge manufacturers, some inkjet printer designs.

Maybe... I would think that if clog free inkjets were possible at a
reasonable price (without excessive ink use that everyone would avoid
complain about) that the companies would do it. After all, the
warranty support has to be costing them quite a bit. And, anyone who
has owned an inkjet for a while would be very, very tempted by the
"ink jet that simply does not clog" marketing campaign.

But, a low level inkjet is $60 after rebate. A Canon print head type
cartridge with full ink/color is $50+. It seems like replacement
(upgrade usually) is the best choice most of the time i.e. - maybe
the current model works.

FYI - Epson clearly told me to "recycle", not "throw away" the printer
that they replaced under warranty (no return to them was required).
I'm still looking for the inkjet printer recycling center :)
 
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Tony

Bob said:
Maybe... I would think that if clog free inkjets were possible at a
reasonable price (without excessive ink use that everyone would avoid
complain about) that the companies would do it. After all, the
warranty support has to be costing them quite a bit. And, anyone who
has owned an inkjet for a while would be very, very tempted by the
"ink jet that simply does not clog" marketing campaign.

But, a low level inkjet is $60 after rebate. A Canon print head type
cartridge with full ink/color is $50+. It seems like replacement
(upgrade usually) is the best choice most of the time i.e. - maybe
the current model works.

FYI - Epson clearly told me to "recycle", not "throw away" the printer
that they replaced under warranty (no return to them was required).
I'm still looking for the inkjet printer recycling center :)

Actually they exist, at least in some countries.
Many printer repair facilities take advantage of a free service provided by HP.
HP collects disposed of printers (and other product), they do not have to have
been made by HP.
They then ensure that the component parts are turned into something useful as
far as possible, they do not turn up in dumps or Chinese villages. Give a local
repair shop a call, if they use this service I am sure they wouldn't mind you
dropping your printer in to them and they shouldn't charge you.
Tony
 
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Arthur Entlich

Bob said:
FYI - Epson clearly told me to "recycle", not "throw away" the printer
that they replaced under warranty (no return to them was required).
I'm still looking for the inkjet printer recycling center :)

How nice of them... HP, at least, offers this service, in fact anyone
can take advantage of it (for a fee). Epson needs to put their money
where their mouth is. They don't even recycle their cartridges (they
incinerate them).

I have several ideas that would probably resolve many of the inkjet
clogs, but it would increase the cost of the machine, and waste a lot
less ink.

If Epson really wanted to resolve clogs, they would for one, acknowledge
my existence, and offer me some support, since I have probably helped
tens of thousands of people to do so, and secondly, they would make
reasonably priced cleaning cartridges for each of their printers (maybe
even supply them with a new printer), and allow them to be refillable.

Art
 

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