Embedding Fonts

[Guest]

OK, I'm stuck again. I have a presentation that is going to be seen on
countless computers, and I am having trouble getting the font to embed
correctly. The users are not going to need to change anything, just watch
the presentations. The users are not going to be able to download the font,
even if I thought about having them install it (which I know is illegal by
the way)- I think just putting the CD in the drive may be taxing enough (some
of them do not know how to use a mouse). I am using PowerPoint 2003.

I have 2 fonts that are not showing correctly. I have already searched for
previous strings of this problem, and have been to
www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00076.htm as suggested by David previously. I
have searched my computer for the file ttembed.ini , which it doesn't seem to
have (I know this is crazy, but true- and yes, I did open the search to
hidden files). I have downloadrd, installed and used Microsoft's font
properties extension which tells me that one of the fonts has editable
embedding allowed, and the other has installable embedding allowed. I am
sure that my presentation is set up to embed true type fonts, but it doesn't
seem to be doing it. What am I missing?
-Heather

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

OK, I'm stuck again. I have a presentation that is going to be seen on
countless computers, and I am having trouble getting the font to embed
correctly. The users are not going to need to change anything, just watch
the presentations. The users are not going to be able to download the font,
even if I thought about having them install it (which I know is illegal by
the way)- I think just putting the CD in the drive may be taxing enough (some
of them do not know how to use a mouse). I am using PowerPoint 2003.

I have 2 fonts that are not showing correctly. I have already searched for
previous strings of this problem, and have been to
www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00076.htm as suggested by David previously. I
have searched my computer for the file ttembed.ini , which it doesn't seem to
have (I know this is crazy, but true- and yes, I did open the search to
hidden files). I have downloadrd, installed and used Microsoft's font
properties extension which tells me that one of the fonts has editable
embedding allowed, and the other has installable embedding allowed. I am
sure that my presentation is set up to embed true type fonts, but it doesn't
seem to be doing it. What am I missing?

How have you determined that the fonts are not embedded?

How large is the file and can you post it someplace on the net so people can
have a look?

 

[Guest]

I know that it is not embedded because when I go to a computer that does not
have the fonts, it substitutes different fonts. Unfortunately, I am not
talented enough to post the file on the web, but I would be happy to put the
incriminating slides into a new file to make the presentation smaller, and
e-mail them.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

I know that it is not embedded because when I go to a computer that does not
have the fonts, it substitutes different fonts. Unfortunately, I am not
talented enough to post the file on the web, but I would be happy to put the
incriminating slides into a new file to make the presentation smaller, and
e-mail them.

Let's try that, then. steve at-sign pptools dot com

Keep it down to a mb or two, copy and paste this this whole message into the body of
the email to remind me of the details and I'll have a look.

Also, let me know if I can share it with anyone else who's interested or should
treat it as proprietary, eyes-only.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

I know that it is not embedded because when I go to a computer that does not
have the fonts, it substitutes different fonts. Unfortunately, I am not
talented enough to post the file on the web, but I would be happy to put the
incriminating slides into a new file to make the presentation smaller, and
e-mail them.

Applause, Applause ... Heather's found a genuine bug in PowerPoint.
Better yet, it's one with an easy workaround.

Her presentation does some clever stuff with animation. At several points, text
that's moving along a path has a Font Change emphasis effect applied to it.

It turns out that PowerPoint doesn't "see" the fonts that are applied in this way.

They don't appear in the Replace Fonts dialog box or in Document Properties,
Contents, Fonts Used. Since PPT doesn't see the fonts, it doesn't bother to embed
them. QED.

But if you format regular text on a slide in one of the same fonts (either existing
text or by adding a new text box just off the slide), PPT sees the font and knows to
embed it. I've added this new info here:

Embedding fonts
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00076.htm

Thanks for sending the sample file along, Heather. That made it quite easy to track
down the problem.

 

[Guest]

Well, I have to say that I wasn't expecting to be in such great company- with
others who have discovered bugs, but I am very honored.

Thanks, Steve, for taking so much time with me. I was also having trouble
with getting the initial font (the first font that showed on the screen) to
show correctly. I ended up putting the font into a separate text box as a
font I never use, then went to Format> Replace Fonts, put in the font that I
never use to be replaced, replaced it with the one that was not showing up,
and it then embedded fine! I also did what you said with the extra text box
for the second (and third and fourth) font, and that worked as well.

Thank you so much.

Just so you know, everytime someone tells me what a great job I did with the
technicalities of my presentations, I send them to this website. Thank You!

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Well, I have to say that I wasn't expecting to be in such great company- with
others who have discovered bugs, but I am very honored.

Now now ... yer gonna make me blush.

I've passed this along to a contact at Microsoft, by the way. It's a pity they name
these things stuff like A9872345. I think it'd be so much cooler if they named it after