Editing a JPG from FP

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Terry Pinnell

I made a simple page of small JPG images from a Thumbnail generating
program. I'm in the process of editinged it (header, positioning,
adding labels, etc). I noticed a minor blemish, so I d-clicked and it
duly opened in PaintShop Pro. But the actual file that opened is
plainly from FP's Temporary folder, as it has the name wpe92562.jpg
rather than the original name. Nevertheless, after editing and saving,
I still expected to see it reflected in FP 2000. But no, it remains
unaltered. What am I missing please?
 
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E. T. Culling

Delete the problem image from FP.... not just from the page, but from the
'images' folder.
Go back to your original image, edit it in PSP. Now IMPORT the new fixed
version with a new file name and insert it back into the page.
Eleanor.
 
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Terry Pinnell

E. T. Culling said:
Delete the problem image from FP.... not just from the page, but from the
'images' folder.
Go back to your original image, edit it in PSP. Now IMPORT the new fixed
version with a new file name and insert it back into the page.
Eleanor.

Thanks Eleanor. But could you clarify a few points please? I don't
have an 'images' folder. This is not a web, just an HTM file I made.
With it open (in its original unedited state) in MSIE6, I used
File>'Edit in Microsoft FP'. Now within FP I'm getting the behaviour I
described. I appreciate that I could start again, and edit the
original in PSP (and, if the image was large and important enough I'd
do that anyway, to get optimum quality), but why can't I do it from
FP?
 
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Destin_FL

Terry, just edit the photo and then resave it to the original location and
filename wherever it sits in Frontpage.
When you go back to Frontpage, go to Folders view and hit F5. Now when you go
back to the actual web page, the image MAY OR MAY NOT appear changed. Don't
fret. When you republish the site, the image will show up as the new edited
one. Sometimes it'll even show up newly edited/fixed upon F12 (preview in
browser) but even there, not every time. But republishing always works.

Tim



E. T. Culling said:
Delete the problem image from FP.... not just from the page, but from the
'images' folder.
Go back to your original image, edit it in PSP. Now IMPORT the new fixed
version with a new file name and insert it back into the page.
Eleanor.

Thanks Eleanor. But could you clarify a few points please? I don't
have an 'images' folder. This is not a web, just an HTM file I made.
With it open (in its original unedited state) in MSIE6, I used
File>'Edit in Microsoft FP'. Now within FP I'm getting the behaviour I
described. I appreciate that I could start again, and edit the
original in PSP (and, if the image was large and important enough I'd
do that anyway, to get optimum quality), but why can't I do it from
FP?
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

By viewing the page/file in IE from your desktop, then clicking Edit with
FP, FP has no place to save the file, since you do not have a web open.

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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Destin_FL

Ha ha ... Tom is exactly right.... I missed the part about she was trying to do
that from IE6, not within Frontpage! :)
Ya gotta have FP open.

T


By viewing the page/file in IE from your desktop, then clicking Edit with
FP, FP has no place to save the file, since you do not have a web open.
 
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Andrew Murray

Terry Pinnell said:
I made a simple page of small JPG images from a Thumbnail generating
program. I'm in the process of editinged it (header, positioning,
adding labels, etc). I noticed a minor blemish, so I d-clicked and it
duly opened in PaintShop Pro. But the actual file that opened is
plainly from FP's Temporary folder, as it has the name wpe92562.jpg
rather than the original name. Nevertheless, after editing and saving,
I still expected to see it reflected in FP 2000. But no, it remains
unaltered. What am I missing please?

Do you need to press F5 (to refresh) the page? - since as you say, it may be
taking the temp file copy, not the original file? Or do you need to re-import
the image you just altered (albeit minor alterations).??
 
T

Terry Pinnell

Destin_FL said:
Ha ha ... Tom is exactly right.... I missed the part about she was trying to do
that from IE6, not within Frontpage! :)
Ya gotta have FP open.

Not sure I follow that. I do have FP open, as described...


'she'? Well, just don't tell my wife!
 
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Terry Pinnell

Thomas A. Rowe said:
By viewing the page/file in IE from your desktop, then clicking Edit with
FP, FP has no place to save the file, since you do not have a web open.

Thanks Tom. I'm still having some trouble getting my mind around this
though. If editing in that way is so restricted, what is the usual
purpose of that 'Edit in FP' command please?

Given a page of raw thumbnails sitting in a folder on my HD, that just
seemed the intuitive thing to do, as I wanted to put them in tables,
add labels, etc. How would an experienced FP user have gone about it
please?
 
T

Terry Pinnell

Do you need to press F5 (to refresh) the page? - since as you say, it may be
taking the temp file copy, not the original file? Or do you need to re-import
the image you just altered (albeit minor alterations).??

Thanks Andrew. I'd tried F5, but, as I now see from Tom's reply, I'm
plainly going about it wrongly. Not sure I understand exactly *why* it
doesn't work though. I thought the point of FP's temp files was to
allow this sort of thing?
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

Terry,

First to effectively work with FP, you must always have a web open (File
Menu | Open Web) and all content must be either created or imported in the
current open FP web first.

So in the case of your photos, they need to be imported into a current open
FP web and then inserted into your tables, etc. If you want to edit the
individual photos, this should always be done outside of FP with the
originals and then imported or re-imported.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
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Terry Pinnell

Thomas A. Rowe said:
Terry,

First to effectively work with FP, you must always have a web open (File
Menu | Open Web) and all content must be either created or imported in the
current open FP web first.

So in the case of your photos, they need to be imported into a current open
FP web and then inserted into your tables, etc. If you want to edit the
individual photos, this should always be done outside of FP with the
originals and then imported or re-imported.

OK, thanks Tom, appreciate the follow-up. I'll get stuck into that
tomorrow.
 

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