Does Vista still need Internet security suite?

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Guest

Hi, im getting a new system this week with vista on it & im not sure if the
security for vista is enough or should get other internet security suite.
Thanks
 
M

Mike Brannigan

markds said:
Hi, im getting a new system this week with vista on it & im not sure if
the
security for vista is enough or should get other internet security suite.
Thanks

Yes you need an anti virus product least.
You can use Vistas built in firewall and malware detection if you wish (some
do , some do not)
 
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Yes, you need more.
Windows Vista includes a firewall
Windows Defender is included to help protect against spyware.
You still need an anti virus
 
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John Barnett MVP

You will need to get anti virus, so I suggest the free versions of AVG
(http://free.grisoft.com) or Avast anti virus (http://www.avast.com) I would
'not' recommend any Norton product. Windows vista has its own firewall and
malware/spyware software which I use regularly. I haven't found a need, so
far, to change either the Vista firewall or Windows defender to any third
party software.

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G

Guest

how about the compatibility of avast or other security software to vista. i
saw some product that MS are suggesting for vista. im thinking of using AVG
anti-virus 7.5 if i dont really need the whole suite.

btw thanks guys i really appreciate it.
 
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Larry Maturo

Hi,

Windows One Care is about forty bucks a year for three PCs, and
contains all the security stuff you need. Since it's by MS, you don't
have to worry about compatibilitty. No, it's not the best at what it
does, but does seem sufficient, at least to me.

-- Larry Maturo
 
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Dustin Harper

Avast works great with Vista, but AVG does as well. Both are free. I run AVG
on one PC, and Avast on the other. It pretty much comes down to which
interface you like. Both have caught several email viruses coming in, and
both seem to use little resources.
 
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John Barnett MVP

Larry, I'm glad you added 'No, it's not the best at what it does' in your
post because OneCare simply isn't the best at what it does. Personally I
find it an utter pain, I certainly wouldn't use it on my main Vista
partition. I do have it on a virtual machine copy of XP but this is only
used for testing purposes and nothing more. I have found it extremely
temperamental when it comes to updating. Half the time it just sits there
unable to update and then, after about an hour it suddenly decides to update
the virus definitions etc. Onecare is certainly not on my favourite list.

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Larry Maturo

Hi John,

Strange, I have it on both my XP machine and my Vista machine and
haven't had any problems with it on either (except for the fact that
it doesn't allow homenetworking by default; the OneCare website
however, has the cure for this.)

I've seen side-by-side tests proving it's not the best anit-virus program,
and I don't have a problem with that, as I don't click on links I'm not
sure about, or download programs I'm not sure about. For the more
careless, I'd recommed finding a side-by-side comparsion of programs,
like the one I saw, and getting the best one available.

-- Larry Maturo
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Hi, im getting a new system this week with vista on it & im not sure if the
security for vista is enough


There are four things you need for security:

1. A firewall

2. Anti-virus software

3. Anti-spyware software

4. Care and vigilance.


Windows vista proves number 1, and part of number 3. The reason I say
"part" is because Windows Defender (the anti-spyware program), like
all anti-spyware programs is insufficient protection by itself. No
single product is good enough, and you need at least two or three for
good protection.

So you still need anti-spyware software, additional anti-spyware
protection, and nobody should ever rely solely on software protection;
care and vigilance are always required.

or should get other internet security suite.


I am very much against the idea of software suites, whether security,
office, or any other kind. I believe in choosing what I consider to be
the best product of each particular type, without regard for what some
vendor has packaged together as a suite.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Hi,

Windows One Care is about forty bucks a year for three PCs,


In my view, that's forty bucks a year that you don't have to spend.
There are lots of better choices that are free.

and
contains all the security stuff you need. Since it's by MS, you don't
have to worry about compatibilitty.


Worrying about compatibility isn't necessary, regardless of what you
choose. What works with Vista and what doesn't is well documented and
can be found, for example, by asking here.

No, it's not the best at what it
does, but does seem sufficient, at least to me.


Unless price is a significant issue, I recommend that everyone choose
the best, not just what's sufficient. In security software as well as
in everything else.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

There are four things you need for security:

1. A firewall

2. Anti-virus software

3. Anti-spyware software

4. Care and vigilance.


Windows vista proves


Ugh! That should be "Windows vista provides," of course. Sorry for the
typo.
 
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John Barnett MVP

Hi Larry, I've noticed quite a number of posts regarding OneCare and, it
appears, that it isn't particularly well liked by a fair number of people.
As I stated in my last post, my main problem with it is its reluctance to
update. This isn't something that has 'just' happened, it has been going on
with my machine since it was in beta. The other thing I really hate about it
is the fact that that you download a setup file first and then the setup
file continues to download the rest of the application. The application
download can take some time and, during this time, you are 'unprotected' by
anti virus (you have to uninstall your old anti virus before OneCare
installs). I would have much preferred to be able to download the whole
application all in one go while being covered by my 'old' anti virus
application.
As I said in my last post I use OneCare on a virtual machine simply in case
I get asked a particular question about it. Other than for that reason I
wouldn't use it at all. My Vista partition is protected with Sophos
Enterprise anti virus.

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John Barnett MVP

I agree, Ken

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