Does any software work with Vista?

[Stephan Rose]

So what the hell are you complaining about then? Software which
currently has problems with Vista is due to the fact it was written
using bad practices in the first place.

Well using that logic means that Microsoft writes code using bad practices.

Their own software doesn't run on Vista after all. =)

So the only question remains is, which one was written with the worse
practices? Visual Studio, SQL Server, or Vista? =)

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[arachnid]

Then the draconian anti-piracy measures which are a complete insult to
every honest customer....I don't *ever* want to have to call the company I
paid good money to in order to re-activate my software just because I
changed my hardware. It hasn't even anything to do with time, it's a
simple matter of principle. It's insulting to treat every user like a
potential criminal and make them constantly prove that their copy is
valid.

It wasn't long after MS introduced WPA that a lot of other software
vendors began to emulate WPA. Now they've introduced WGA and SPP, it's
just a matter of time before you have to call 20 different numbers to
reactivate those programs after installing a new video card.

 

[Stephan Rose]

It wasn't long after MS introduced WPA that a lot of other software
vendors began to emulate WPA. Now they've introduced WGA and SPP, it's
just a matter of time before you have to call 20 different numbers to
reactivate those programs after installing a new video card.

Sad but true...

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[Conor]

Audio Devices Support: Yea so good that EAX doesn't work on my soundcard via
DirectX (

Obviously what was in that link was above your level of understanding.

 

[Stephan Rose]

Obviously what was in that link was above your level of understanding.

I probably understand more about it than you do seeing how I have written
real-time multitasking operating systems for embedded devices complete with
memory management and file systems.

For that reason, all those cute little keywords in that article don't
impress me as much as they do the average user.

Yea they have made some nice internal changes and I understand what they
did, why they did it and how they did it. Do I care though? No.

I care about my hardware working and my software working on it and being
able to do my work and being able to meet my deadlines and not dealing with
operating system problems. How it manages its memory, file system and
tcp/ip stack are of little concern to me.

One of the things near the bottom actually annoys me, being the .Net
Framework 3.0 and them essentially forcing people into it by no longer
putting the new features into the win32 API.

I've worked with the .Net Framework for years, yea doing UI work with it is
very nice, it has some very nice features. But it also has a very large
drawback I didn't even discover how bad it was until I ported one of
my .Net apps to C++ and OpenGL.

Dataset: 40,000 polygons 2D and 125,000 lines 2D

..Net Framework & MDX render time: 150ms single core, 80ms two cores.

C++ Render time running on a single core only: 10ms

My C++ engine will run circles around the Managed .Net engine and it isn't
even nearly as optimized.

To be honest with you, the biggest problem I have with Vista is microsoft
pushing "their way" onto everyone ranging from users to developers.

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[Guest]

That's odd. Virtually all of my software, some of it rather obscure, works
with Vista. The only exception is my VPN client (Greenbow), and they'll
have a Vista release next month. Hardware is a little more problematic.
Most everything I've got runs, except for a very old HP scanner and an
Adaptec SCSI PCMCIA card (and, I suspect, the scanner will work if I replace
the Adaptec card with a later version). Some things run a little weird (I
have a Netgear gigabit NIC PCMCIA card that works fine, but is reported by
Vista as running at 10 megabits when, in fact, it's running at full gigabit
speed).

One of the tricks to getting older software and hardware to work is to run
the install programs in XP Compatibility mode and Run as Administrator.
Once the programs are installed, set the properties for the executable to XP
Compatibility Mode and Run as Administrator (you do this by right-clicking
on the executable file and selecting the Compatibility Tab).

Thankyou for your knowledge,not everbody is a computer guru,how ever I found several of the comments to be very negative,I to bought a new computer with Vista already installed and found that not many of the programs I've spent so much money on will work,and yes it disturbed me,I will try your suggestions and pray for some break thru, but if not I will blame myself for not knowing what to ask and the salesman for know what not tio tell.............

 

[PTravel]

I'm pretty satisifed with Vista, but I'm also pretty adept at computers. I
have no idea how less-experienced people can manage. There is,
unfortunately, a lot of noise in this newsgroup -- it's best to just ignore
it and focus on the technical content.

 

[Richard in AZ]

I'm pretty satisifed with Vista, but I'm also pretty adept at computers. I have no idea how
less-experienced people can manage. There is, unfortunately, a lot of noise in this newsgroup --
it's best to just ignore it and focus on the technical content.

You are right, if people would ask for help instead of just bitching, they would find that most of
there problems could be solved.

 

[Guest]

This is a very touchy subject. I feel that most individuals that are not born
techies do not care about other companies not changing there drivers. They
just want the product to work... I myself love the IT field and have a
limited unstanding of what it takes to create such an animal. I have the
utmost respect for companies that just do it and let the other companies
catch up. Hats off to microsoft for not allowing the other companies to
dictate what there next move is.

 

[Dave]

This is not a Vistax64 only forum.... it is a newsgroup for all Vista.

 

[Charlie Tame]

To answer the OP briefly you will have a lot less trouble using Vista
32, drivers for 64 are still not there for a lot of devices (Wireless
networking for example, if there are drivers many do not work properly)

Drivers related to the 64 the kernel have to be signed, which costs
money, so a lot of people are not bothering, and nothing works on both
32 and 64 (That I have found yet anyway)

When you find stuff that works on 64 it works fine, but can be a much
worse problem to set up, so if you have a choice go 32, if you Must have
4 GB+ or have an app that needs 64 well you're probably going to get by
but more slowly.

64 is also a bit slower that 32 for most things at the moment. If you
get Ultimate I think you get a choice so for the future as 64 bit
machinery gets around more it will likely improve as then 64 bit apps
"Should" run faster than 32, but I'm not putting money on any of them

 

[cvp]

I keep seeing statements about the lack of 64 bit drivers. That hasn't been
my experience. With one exception I can recall (an older printer) if Vista
drives are available they are available for 32 bit and 64 bit.
One problem that does exist for printers is making both 32 and 64 bit
drivers available on the system that's hosting a shared printer. (The
"other" driver exists but is often hidden in a cab file) - a requirement
that seems to have escaped printer manufacturers!
It's really a shame that vista didn't go the 64 only route, but I suspect
pressure from Intel may have something to do with that (the majority of
Intel based laptops advertised in this weekends ads are still 32 only-
unlike AMD based ones)

To answer the OP briefly you will have a lot less trouble using Vista 32,
drivers for 64 are still not there for a lot of devices (Wireless
networking for example, if there are drivers many do not work properly)

Drivers related to the 64 the kernel have to be signed, which costs money,
so a lot of people are not bothering, and nothing works on both 32 and 64
(That I have found yet anyway)

When you find stuff that works on 64 it works fine, but can be a much
worse problem to set up, so if you have a choice go 32, if you Must have 4
GB+ or have an app that needs 64 well you're probably going to get by but
more slowly.

64 is also a bit slower that 32 for most things at the moment. If you get
Ultimate I think you get a choice so for the future as 64 bit machinery
gets around more it will likely improve as then 64 bit apps "Should" run
faster than 32, but I'm not putting money on any of them

 

[JohnsGroovyWebsite.com]

Nope.... absolutely NO software works with Vista.... I'm about ready to throw
my new computer out the window, but that would just make it harder to return
it.

I've had less problems beta-testing software before... it's presently a
piece of crap... looks cool though!!!

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

A list of what you have that doesn't work would help us to help you..

 

[Dave]

Almost all of my software works fine with Vista. Only a 10 year old game
that requires full screen DOS mode fails to run.
And HP decided not to update my printer software.

Here's what works..
7-Zip
uTorrent
Acronis TrueImage Home
Activehome pro
Adobe Reader
Agent 4
Alpha Five V8
Audacity
Belarc Advisor
CCleaner
Cuteftp 8.1
Cutehtml
DosBox
EditPadLite
Foxit reader
Firefox
Gadwin printscreen
Golden Tee Golf
ICQ
Imgburn
Irfanview
iTunes
Links 2001
LogMeIn
MS VPC 2007
MS Excel
MS Outlook
MS Publisher
MS Word
MultiMon taskbar
Nero 8
Olympus Master
PGA golf
Picasa2
Printkey2000
Quicktime
Realplayer
Recuva
Rootsmagic
Skype
Thunderbird
Tight VNC
TweakUAC
VMwarePlayer
Vuescan
Webcam Publisher
Live Write
Live Mail
Live Photo Gallery
and many more...