Detection of Claria /Gator downgraded to Ignore!

[ASAP Vigilante]

Why has detection of the Claria/Gator SPYWARE been
downgraded to a default recommendation of *Ignore* in the
most recent update. Has MS gone freakin psycho???

 

[plun]

ASAP Vigilante presented the following explanation :

Why has detection of the Claria/Gator SPYWARE been
downgraded to a default recommendation of *Ignore* in the
most recent update. Has MS gone freakin psycho???

Yes, MS sees a big Google ghost and a ruined MSN..........

But if it is "freakin psycho" ? Stupid desperate business maybe ?

 

[peruser]

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[IamHere]

-----Original Message-----
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Then how do you know that I am here.

 

[Steve Wechsler [MVP]]

Why has detection of the Claria/Gator SPYWARE been
downgraded to a default recommendation of *Ignore* in the
most recent update. Has MS gone freakin psycho???

This from a post by Andy Manchesta in the spyware.general NG :

" Claria/Gain/Gator Test

I think all this negative feedback about Microsoft and
Claria isnt justified at all .Ive tested this myself and
MS Antispy still make it very clear that Claria is
Adware.It has changed them to ignore when the scan
finishes but thats the only difference, it still detects
claria and the option to ignore can easily be changed to
remove

I have loads of protection products installed and it was
only MS Antispy that gave me repeated warnings that i was
installing Adware on my system.Spysweeper and Spyware
guard even though the real time protection is enabled
both failed to notice the changes when i installed Claria.

It was only after the installation finished and i
rebooted to let the changes take effect that spy sweeper
then noticed Claria on my system then gave a warning ,Id
allowed the changes on 3 MS Antispy alert pop-ups and
then it even gave another warning when i rebooted that
Claria was trying to run on my pc which made it 4
warnings from MS



I downloaded and run CPU Rocket which is one of Claria's
many programs .Straight away i received Red Alert Popups
from MS Antispy for each part of the Adware that was
installing (Claria-Gain,Claria-Gain-Trickler,Claria-
Dashbar)

Heres the Alert for Claria.Gain.Trickler

WARNING : MS Antispy Alert

MS Antispy has detected the threat Claria.Gain.Trickler
trying to install a start up file on your computer.
If you would like to allow Claria.Gain.Trickler to
install the start up file click the 'Allow' Button below

Name : Claria.Gain.Trickler
Type : Adware
Threat Level : Moderate
Author : Claria Corporation(Formerly known as Gator Corp)

Advise : Moderate risk items have some potential for
adverse effects,but may be part of a wanted service,Users
may decide to ignore such programs after review.


Even after pressing allow on all the pop up alert windows
i then rebooted to make sure the install was complete and
then got another warning from MS Antispy when i rebooted
saying

Allow threat to run ?

Are you sure you would like to allow the threat
Claria.Gain to run on your system

Looking at the scan results MS Antispy are doing alot
better than some of the other well known removers


MS Antispy - 3185 Traces of Adware Claria

Spysweeper - 809 Traces

Adaware SE - 52 total references to Claria

Spybot - 20 Claria files detected


To be fair to Ad-Aware and Spybot they mostly only
detected the folders and not the files inside the folders
but removing the folders probably would of removed most
of the files that the other scanners detected .


It was very easy to clean up the pc just by uninstalling
CPU Rocket ,After i removed that and rebooted MS Antispy
detected 30 traces in the registry in the classes folder
and software folder for Gator related items which i
removed and that was the end of Claria so i appreciate
why MS Antispy are not regarding this as a big problem.

It still made it very clear i was installing Adware and
gave repeated warnings which none of my other protection
products did except spysweeper but it was already
installed on my system by then.

Hope this helps people see Microsofts Antispy is still
removing Claria and in my opinion the amount of traces
found by MS Antispy makes the other removers look really
bad considering MS is still in the beta testing stage and
doesnt cost anything.

Regards

Andy "

Draw your own conclusion as to what is pyscho now

Steve Wechsler (akaMowGreen)
MS-MVP 2003-2005
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

 

[Ken Becker]

-----Original Message-----


This from a post by Andy Manchesta in the spyware.general NG :

" Claria/Gain/Gator Test

I think all this negative feedback about Microsoft and
Claria isnt justified at all .Ive tested this myself and
MS Antispy still make it very clear that Claria is
Adware.It has changed them to ignore when the scan
finishes but thats the only difference, it still detects
claria and the option to ignore can easily be changed to
remove

I have loads of protection products installed and it was
only MS Antispy that gave me repeated warnings that i was
installing Adware on my system.Spysweeper and Spyware
guard even though the real time protection is enabled
both failed to notice the changes when i installed Claria.

It was only after the installation finished and i
rebooted to let the changes take effect that spy sweeper
then noticed Claria on my system then gave a warning ,Id
allowed the changes on 3 MS Antispy alert pop-ups and
then it even gave another warning when i rebooted that
Claria was trying to run on my pc which made it 4
warnings from MS



I downloaded and run CPU Rocket which is one of Claria's
many programs .Straight away i received Red Alert Popups
from MS Antispy for each part of the Adware that was
installing (Claria-Gain,Claria-Gain-Trickler,Claria-
Dashbar)

Heres the Alert for Claria.Gain.Trickler

WARNING : MS Antispy Alert

MS Antispy has detected the threat Claria.Gain.Trickler
trying to install a start up file on your computer.
If you would like to allow Claria.Gain.Trickler to
install the start up file click the 'Allow' Button below

Name : Claria.Gain.Trickler
Type : Adware
Threat Level : Moderate
Author : Claria Corporation(Formerly known as Gator Corp)

Advise : Moderate risk items have some potential for
adverse effects,but may be part of a wanted service,Users
may decide to ignore such programs after review.


Even after pressing allow on all the pop up alert windows
i then rebooted to make sure the install was complete and
then got another warning from MS Antispy when i rebooted
saying

Allow threat to run ?

Are you sure you would like to allow the threat
Claria.Gain to run on your system

Looking at the scan results MS Antispy are doing alot
better than some of the other well known removers


MS Antispy - 3185 Traces of Adware Claria

Spysweeper - 809 Traces

Adaware SE - 52 total references to Claria

Spybot - 20 Claria files detected


To be fair to Ad-Aware and Spybot they mostly only
detected the folders and not the files inside the folders
but removing the folders probably would of removed most
of the files that the other scanners detected .


It was very easy to clean up the pc just by uninstalling
CPU Rocket ,After i removed that and rebooted MS Antispy
detected 30 traces in the registry in the classes folder
and software folder for Gator related items which i
removed and that was the end of Claria so i appreciate
why MS Antispy are not regarding this as a big problem.

It still made it very clear i was installing Adware and
gave repeated warnings which none of my other protection
products did except spysweeper but it was already
installed on my system by then.

Hope this helps people see Microsofts Antispy is still
removing Claria and in my opinion the amount of traces
found by MS Antispy makes the other removers look really
bad considering MS is still in the beta testing stage and
doesnt cost anything.

Regards

Andy "

Draw your own conclusion as to what is pyscho now

Steve Wechsler (akaMowGreen)
MS-MVP 2003-2005
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============
.

Steve,

It's the principle. Claria was one of the most
pernicious, original commericial vendors of spyware. They
changed their name from "Gator" specifically because
they, as a company, had gained so much bad press on their
system-corrupting, drive-by download, buried-in-legalese,
taking-advantage-of-newbies software. In any sane society
the principals and workers of Claria would be in jail (or
at least heavily fined), the place would be shut down,
the monies in the piggy bank confiscated by the
government, and the office equipment sold at auction. The
only reason they've managed to hang around as long as
they have has been overwork at the FTC and a bunch of
lawyers who seem to have the morals of a bunch of weasels.

So, they've managed to avoid the law, and, like all con
artists, they're trying to cash out while they can before
Elliot Spitzer or the FTC tracks them down. So, it seems
like people at Microsoft are thinking about buying the
company. Right. Well, there are Microsoft bashers out
there who think that everything the company does is
inherently illegal. I don't think so; I think that if you
ask random Microsofties (in general) if they're trying to
do good in the world, they're going to answer, "Yes!"
and, by and large, like normal people, they do. However,
in any large organization, there are people whose moral
compass is on the fritz. This appears to be one of those
cases.

So: Claria is a bunch of scum who should've been sued
into the ground years ago. Nobody in their right mind
should have their software installed on their computer.
Microsoft has released software, intended for the general
population (i.e., newbies) that says that they should
ignore Claria infestations. And that change is recent,
about the same time that Microsoft is thinking about
buying Claria.

Stupid. Immoral. Unethical. Probably, if Spitzer (or some
other DA with guts) was walking around, illegal.

OK: There are people who don't trust Microsoft on
anything. I'm not one of those. I trust that those
security updates on windowsupdate.com aren't installing
backdoors into my computer and stealing my credit card
numbers. But allowing Claria, or any other
adware/spyware/worm/virus onto my computer, by default,
sure doesn't smell right. In fact, it stinks.

I removed Microsoft Anti-Spyware from my work computer,
and I'm going to remove it from the two computers at
home. I can at least trust Spybot and Ad-Aware to do the
right moral thing. As of now, I don't trust Microsoft to
do the same. If they can do this for Claria, they can
probably do it for any other scum, if the scum have money.

Ken Becker