Delayed shutdown problem

[needlove]

I recently installed XPsp2 on a 80 GB IDE HHD on two of three ntfs
partitions. One installation with ACPI the other is standard PC (I toggle
ACPI in BIOS before starting the respective OS). The drive tests fine and
is run in Ultra DMA 5 by both OS's

Both installs are virus/malware free, up-to-date with MS and have very few
third party programs installed, Lavasoft firewall, Adaware, Spybot and
Nod32 av.

They both exibit the same problem on shutdown. The "welcome screen" says
"Windows is shutting down...". The hard disk activity light is on at first
then off for 30 seconds. then it blinks on and windows shuts down.

My main installation of XP in on the same computer on SATA Raid drive and
it shuts down in a few seconds and I have tons of games and programs on it
and MS services are configured the same.

I googled shutdown problems and and eliminated the most common; malware,
pagefile, nvidia drivers, hibernate, etc..

I did a clean boots with msconfig and ONLY when I disable MS services did
they shutdown normally (have to reactivate windows with a call to MS) I
re-clean booted dozens of times trying to pinpoint the MS service
responsible but the delayed shutdown would only stop when a large group of
MS services were disabled. It isn't just one sevice responsible.

I tried disabling groups of services, those that come before RPC service
and those after, alphabetically, but so far that has failed to narrow it
down. The shutdown delay, when it occurs, is always about 30 seconds.

Booting Windows with no MS services is painfully slow and each change to
msconfig requires two starts and shutdowns, one to make the change and one
to test it. Changes to services don't take place until you reboot.

 

[bxf]

I recently installed XPsp2 on a 80 GB IDE HHD on two of three ntfs
partitions. One installation with ACPI the other is standard PC (I toggle
ACPI in BIOS before starting the respective OS). The drive tests fine and
is run in Ultra DMA 5 by both OS's

Both installs are virus/malware free, up-to-date with MS and have very few
third party programs installed, Lavasoft firewall, Adaware, Spybot and
Nod32 av.

They both exibit the same problem on shutdown. The "welcome screen" says
"Windows is shutting down...". The hard disk activity light is on at first
then off for 30 seconds. then it blinks on and windows shuts down.

My main installation of XP in on the same computer on SATA Raid drive and
it shuts down in a few seconds and I have tons of games and programs on it
and MS services are configured the same.

I googled shutdown problems and and eliminated the most common; malware,
pagefile, nvidia drivers, hibernate, etc..

I did a clean boots with msconfig and ONLY when I disable MS services did
they shutdown normally (have to reactivate windows with a call to MS) I
re-clean booted dozens of times trying to pinpoint the MS service
responsible but the delayed shutdown would only stop when a large group of
MS services were disabled. It isn't just one sevice responsible.

I tried disabling groups of services, those that come before RPC service
and those after, alphabetically, but so far that has failed to narrow it
down. The shutdown delay, when it occurs, is always about 30 seconds.

Booting Windows with no MS services is painfully slow and each change to
msconfig requires two starts and shutdowns, one to make the change and one
to test it. Changes to services don't take place until you reboot.

Depending on whether or not you have some specific messages in your
Event Viewer, you may want to look into UPHCLEAN, which solves
shutdown delays caused by user profile not unloading.

 

[Guest]

Usually setting the IDE or SATA hd speeds to "auto" works best,most IDE
controllers & hds only run at 100kbs transfer speed anyway..As for shutdown,
you need no software,simply,go to run,type:regedit In regedit,expand,HKEY_
LOCAL_USERS\default\controlpanel\desktop & open click AutoEndTasks Go
to edit,modify.Set to 1 From 0 Close out regedit

 

[Gerry Cornell]

A solution that often helps.

Download and install the User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
Download details: User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
http://snipurl.com/5b61

UPHClean v1.5e readme.txt
http://snipurl.com/ko8m


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
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[Lester Stiefel]

Depending on whether or not you have some specific messages in your
Event Viewer, you may want to look into UPHCLEAN, which solves
shutdown delays caused by user profile not unloading.

this could actually be your AV proxy not shutting down
within a given period. I had a similar issue with Norton
2006 (because of an out-of-date engine). If it shuts down in
about 15 seconds, I would not worry. If it takes longer than
a half a minute, you might try a manual shut down of utility
programs (such as AV) from the task manager. Then shut down
the PC and write back and tell us if that speeds up the
shutdown process.

--
Lester Stiefel
In 2 Timothy 3:1-7, there is a list of the qualities that
Unregenerate man will have in the last days. Is your quality
found there? If So, don't despair - Christ came to save His
people.

 

[needlove]

Found the culprit.

HKLM | SYSTEM | CurrentControlSet | Control
"WaitToKillServiceTimeout" string value was "20000"
changed value to "5000"

Shutdown now takes about ten seconds. I toggled the value and rebooted to
verify that it was the problem. I guess thats why disabling all stoppable
services in the configuration utility also worked, but that approach had
its drawbacks.

I appreciate the input and I considered all your suggestions and most of
the ones listed here; http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php

 

[GRAND_POOBAH]

Glad you could find the problem. The solution goes into my little black
book as a keeper.

PS: My slow shutdown machine was set to 20000 also. Now it drops out
much faster.

GP

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