Contemplating the A2K7 Runtime

[David W. Fenton]

I've got a project starting tomorrow that involves creating a fairly
simple single-form Access app that will run on a kiosk (that also
runs other kiosk apps). I'm very interested in trying out the A2K7
runtime, using an MDB that I develop in A2K3. Questions:

1. can I safely install the A2K7 runtime on my development machine
without hosing my A97 and A2K3 installations?

2. how well does an MDB developed in A2K3 run in the A2K7 runtime?
Sure, I'll test it, but I'm looking for advice before I make
mistakes in the design.

Thanks!

 

[David W. Fenton]

I've got a project starting tomorrow that involves creating a
fairly simple single-form Access app that will run on a kiosk
(that also runs other kiosk apps). I'm very interested in trying
out the A2K7 runtime, using an MDB that I develop in A2K3.
Questions:

1. can I safely install the A2K7 runtime on my development machine
without hosing my A97 and A2K3 installations?

2. how well does an MDB developed in A2K3 run in the A2K7 runtime?
Sure, I'll test it, but I'm looking for advice before I make
mistakes in the design.

Thanks!

Nobody has answered this question of mine, and I will need to commit
on this tomorrow or Tuesday. Does anyone have anything to say? Or
will I just have to plunge in and figure it out and post back to the
newsgroup to answer my own questions?

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

I've got a project starting tomorrow that involves creating a fairly
simple single-form Access app that will run on a kiosk (that also
runs other kiosk apps). I'm very interested in trying out the A2K7
runtime, using an MDB that I develop in A2K3. Questions:

1. can I safely install the A2K7 runtime on my development machine
without hosing my A97 and A2K3 installations?

I and others run A2007 on our systems without hosing up the other
installs. Be prepared for a 15 to 30 second delay upon initially
running A2007 and later when you then run A2003.

2. how well does an MDB developed in A2K3 run in the A2K7 runtime?
Sure, I'll test it, but I'm looking for advice before I make
mistakes in the design.

Allen Browne has the best information on his website along with Jeff
Conrad who has a lot of links.

Tony
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[Tony Toews [MVP]]

I've got a project starting tomorrow that involves creating a fairly
simple single-form Access app that will run on a kiosk (that also
runs other kiosk apps). I'm very interested in trying out the A2K7
runtime, using an MDB that I develop in A2K3. Questions:

1. can I safely install the A2K7 runtime on my development machine
without hosing my A97 and A2K3 installations?

Note though you'll need the A2007 retail to create an A2007 runtime
package complete with your FE/BE etc. for distribution. Although I
think the A2007 runtime will install just fine on a users system.
Then if they just drag and drop the MDB/MDE/ACCDB/ACCDE onto the
system that'd work too of course.

Tony
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[David W. Fenton]

I and others run A2007 on our systems without hosing up the other
installs.

Not A2007, but the A2007 runtime.

Be prepared for a 15 to 30 second delay upon initially
running A2007 and later when you then run A2003.

Even with the runtime? I'm only going to use it for testing, i.e.,
no development (obviously!).

Allen Browne has the best information on his website along with
Jeff Conrad who has a lot of links.

On the runtime? Or on running under A2K7?

My questions are about THE RUNTIME. I don't see anything in your
answer, Tony, that is clearly about the runtime only.

 

[David W. Fenton]

Note though you'll need the A2007 retail to create an A2007
runtime package complete with your FE/BE etc. for distribution.

Er, what? I can't create a runtime package with the A2K7 runtime to
distribute an MDB created in A2K3? Why would I need A2K7 for that?

Although I
think the A2007 runtime will install just fine on a users system.
Then if they just drag and drop the MDB/MDE/ACCDB/ACCDE onto the
system that'd work too of course.

This is going to be on a kiosk, so I'm not at all concerned about
the app's operating environment.

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Even with the runtime? I'm only going to use it for testing, i.e.,
no development (obviously!).

I would expect so.

On the runtime? Or on running under A2K7?

My questions are about THE RUNTIME. I don't see anything in your
answer, Tony, that is clearly about the runtime only.

No, there isn't but then there's not a lot different about the runtime
than the obvious things we all know about.

Tony
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[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Er, what? I can't create a runtime package with the A2K7 runtime to
distribute an MDB created in A2K3? Why would I need A2K7 for that?

That's what I thought but I was just making sure of all the
possibilities.

Tony
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[David W. Fenton]

That's what I thought but I was just making sure of all the
possibilities.

I still don't know the answer to the question:

Must I purchase and install A2K7 in order to be able to create an
A2K7 runtime installation for an MDE created in A2K3?

(BTW, either my posts are delayed getting to you, or your posts are
delayed getting to me, as your answers always come 48 hours after I
post them, never the day after)

 

[Rick Brandt]

I still don't know the answer to the question:

Must I purchase and install A2K7 in order to be able to create an A2K7
runtime installation for an MDE created in A2K3?

(BTW, either my posts are delayed getting to you, or your posts are
delayed getting to me, as your answers always come 48 hours after I post
them, never the day after)

The tool required to build a runtime installation package is a free
download. Why not download and install it and then see what happens
during the install or after if you try to open it? If Access 2007 is
required I assume that you will be informed of that during part of that
process.

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Must I purchase and install A2K7 in order to be able to create an
A2K7 runtime installation for an MDE created in A2K3?

I don't know. I think anyone can download and install the A2007
runtime as is from the MS website. But you can test that out
yourself.

However I suspect you'd need the A2007 retail to create an Access 2007
runtime package which would include your A2003 FE.

However if you were to create the shortcuts yourself on the target
system or use another product such as Inno to create the shortcuts and
copy the files onto the target system.

(BTW, either my posts are delayed getting to you, or your posts are
delayed getting to me, as your answers always come 48 hours after I
post them, never the day after)

I don't always check the newsgroups every day.

Tony
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[David W. Fenton]

The tool required to build a runtime installation package is a
free download. Why not download and install it and then see what
happens during the install or after if you try to open it? If
Access 2007 is required I assume that you will be informed of that
during part of that process.

Well, I'm trying to avoid mucking up my system unnecessarily.

I'm surprised that nobody seems to know the answer to my question.