connecting at wifi locations

G

Guest

when i take my laptop on the road and try to connect at hotels, coffee shops
etc with the available wireless network i make a connection but it is
classified as local only and I cant get on the internet...what do I need to
change to allow me access...Pls...any help would be appreciated
 
E

Ed Allan

Unfortunately, this seems to be a pervasive problem with Vista, one that did
not exist with XP. If you happen to have a T-Mobile account, then you should
be able to connect at Borders or Starbucks. Free wireless access works at
Caribou Coffee (North Central and Mid-Atlantic states)

http://www.cariboucoffee.com/locations/

and at least some Cosi restaurants (Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, Midwest,
Texas, California).

http://www.getcosi.com/folders.asp?action=display&record=3

Some Staples stores offer free wireless access or plug-in LAN.

Good luck!!
 
S

Sooner Al [MVP]

Ed Allan said:
Unfortunately, this seems to be a pervasive problem with Vista, one that
did
not exist with XP. If you happen to have a T-Mobile account, then you
should
be able to connect at Borders or Starbucks. Free wireless access works at
Caribou Coffee (North Central and Mid-Atlantic states)

http://www.cariboucoffee.com/locations/

and at least some Cosi restaurants (Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, Midwest,
Texas, California).

http://www.getcosi.com/folders.asp?action=display&record=3

Some Staples stores offer free wireless access or plug-in LAN.

Good luck!!

I've never had that issue. Be aware that many hotspots at hotels,
restaurants, etc require you to agree to terms of service by logging on with
IE, or some other browser, before you can access the internet. Usually if
you bring up IE you will be redirected to the terms of service page and you
can then either agree or not.

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
 
E

Ed Allan

Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.

Perhaps Bogey's experience has been different from mine. But for me, while
the Network Center shows that the access point is broadcasting with a strong
signal, my browser nonetheless comes back with a "Site not found" message.

Note: I did see as a response to someone else's post that setting the
connection to "Private" sometimes works.
 
B

Barb Bowman

I've traveled all over with a Vista laptop.
When you are at a public provider's site, open IE and try to
navigate to yahoo or some site you don't normally visit. the
wireless provider should display an access page of sort kind for you
to acknowledge terms of service and then you should be able to use
the Internet.

If this does not happen, open a cmd prompt and copy the text output
of

ipconfig /all to a text file. save it so that you can post it here
so that we can see what the state of the connection is at one of
these places you have trouble with.

Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.

Perhaps Bogey's experience has been different from mine. But for me, while
the Network Center shows that the access point is broadcasting with a strong
signal, my browser nonetheless comes back with a "Site not found" message.

Note: I did see as a response to someone else's post that setting the
connection to "Private" sometimes works.
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
 
S

Sooner Al [MVP]

Ed Allan said:
Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have
a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily
access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting
all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.

Perhaps Bogey's experience has been different from mine. But for me, while
the Network Center shows that the access point is broadcasting with a
strong
signal, my browser nonetheless comes back with a "Site not found" message.

Note: I did see as a response to someone else's post that setting the
connection to "Private" sometimes works.
I would *NEVER* set my network type to "Private" while at a public wireless
hotspot or a wired one for that matter.

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
 
J

Jrz

Ed said:
Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.

Vista has a completely rewritten TCP/IP stack

http://blogs.msdn.com/wndp/archive/2006/05/05/Winhec-blog-tcpip-2.aspx

in an attempt to get greater speed/efficiency, it is also now
incompatible with some routers. So it seems to very much depend on where
you are at - "lucky", so to speak
 
C

CM

Barb Bowman said:
I've traveled all over with a Vista laptop.
When you are at a public provider's site, open IE and try to
navigate to yahoo or some site you don't normally visit. the
wireless provider should display an access page of sort kind for you
to acknowledge terms of service and then you should be able to use
the Internet.

If this does not happen, open a cmd prompt and copy the text output
of

ipconfig /all to a text file. save it so that you can post it here
so that we can see what the state of the connection is at one of
these places you have trouble with.


--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
 
C

CM

I'm having the very same problem !! No matter where I go in this Philippine
city, it's a hit and miss, more often a miss, whether I will connect to the
internet. I do appear to be connecting OK to the hotel and restaurant
routers, but it won't go the next step and connect to the net. It says Local
Connection Only with an excellent signal. However , about 15 % of the time,
at the same location and without any changes in my settings, I eventually
connect after about half an hour of sitting idle. Everyone else at the same
location connect fine with XP or Apple. Barb I haven't a clue how to do the
steps you requested of this poster. I'm using a new ACER Extensa 5620. Man
this is pissing me off !! Has Microsoft not got an official fix for this ?
There are many, many other people on the net complaining about the same
problem. Thanks in advance for your help.
 
B

Barb Bowman

please post the text output of ipconfig /all
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com/ipconfig-all-how-to-get-text-output/

I'm having the very same problem !! No matter where I go in this Philippine
city, it's a hit and miss, more often a miss, whether I will connect to the
internet. I do appear to be connecting OK to the hotel and restaurant
routers, but it won't go the next step and connect to the net. It says Local
Connection Only with an excellent signal. However , about 15 % of the time,
at the same location and without any changes in my settings, I eventually
connect after about half an hour of sitting idle. Everyone else at the same
location connect fine with XP or Apple. Barb I haven't a clue how to do the
steps you requested of this poster. I'm using a new ACER Extensa 5620. Man
this is pissing me off !! Has Microsoft not got an official fix for this ?
There are many, many other people on the net complaining about the same
problem. Thanks in advance for your help.
--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
 
C

CM

Here's a second attempt to post the file. Thank you !!

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Owner>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Owner-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
Con
nection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-77-9F-01-18
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b14b:a058:f067:bbda%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:03:35 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:03:34 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234887634
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{2A2B75C1-EE9B-4F23-AE01-8F2870768
2FF}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.2%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

C:\Users\Owner>
 
B

Barb Bowman

first, unbind IPv6 from the wireless NIC
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com/ipv6-how-to-unbind-from-a-nic-in-windows-vista/

also make sure you have the latest drivers for the Intel wireless

if these two changes do not fix the issue, you should next see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/928233/en-us

Here's a second attempt to post the file. Thank you !!

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Owner>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Owner-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
Con
nection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-77-9F-01-18
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b14b:a058:f067:bbda%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:03:35 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:03:34 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234887634
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{2A2B75C1-EE9B-4F23-AE01-8F2870768
2FF}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.2%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

C:\Users\Owner>

Barb Bowman said:
--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
 

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