Color Laser Printing Thick Stock

E

Elliot

Hi everyone

I'm looking for a small color laser printer with built-in duplexing.
I'm required to use quite thick paper (60 - 70 lb text). What is the
best, small printer for the money that can handle this thickness? Is
there one?

I just bought a Samsung CLP-510 which I may have to return since the
userguide says it can only do 20-24 lb paper in duplexing mode and only
43 lb max in the multi-purpose tray. Aside from the thickness
limitation it sounded greate and I was really looking forward to trying
it out. Is it worth a try with the thicker stock?

Anyway, any recommendations would be really helpful.

Thanks in advance.

Elliot
 
K

kolorwell

Samsung CLP-510 is not recommended! The other entry-level or low-en
laser printer is possible. You must change “paper type” from defaul
setting “ common paper” to “106 ~ 163 g/m2” for HP printer, “Thic
Paper” for Konica Minolta printer etc. It is possible to slow dow
printing speed to avoid paper jam happening

Meanwhile, you must have following considerations
1.During laser printing, the temperature of fuser will raise up ove
200 degree C. It has potential risk to melt-down the coating materia
on your paper surface also and damage your printer. Be careful
2.The heat is possible to be accumulated in printer when continuou
printing. Highly recommend the environmental temperature is below 2
degree C and make air circulate around your printer
3.Because you use 60 ~ 70lb thick paper, the output color printin
quality will become very white because toner can not transfe
completely from OPC drum to paper. Highly recommend use the paper ha
positive polarity on the surface
 
E

Elliot

Thanks very much for your detailed and knowlegable reply.

Is there a printer that would be a bit more expensive and better fit my
needs than the low end ones? Or will they have the same problems?

Elliot
 
N

~~NoMad~~

Elliot said:
Thanks very much for your detailed and knowlegable reply.

Is there a printer that would be a bit more expensive and better fit my
needs than the low end ones? Or will they have the same problems?

Elliot
I would recommend you go to Kinko's or some other commercial outlet and try
out their color laser printers and see how well different types work.


NM
 
K

kolorwell

I had test with HP 2500/2550/3700/4600/5500 EPSO
C900/C1100/C1900/C3000/C4000/C4100 Xerox DC12 and 6060
Unfortunately, you can not find EPSON color laser printer in Nort
America. Basically, the printer with 600dpi engine, 2,400dpi outpu
printing quality, PCL6 and PostScript Level 3 printing language i
enough. GDI printing language is not recommended
 
M

me

In message said:
Hi everyone

I'm looking for a small color laser printer with built-in duplexing.
I'm required to use quite thick paper (60 - 70 lb text). What is the
best, small printer for the money that can handle this thickness? Is
there one?

I just bought a Samsung CLP-510 which I may have to return since the
userguide says it can only do 20-24 lb paper in duplexing mode and only
43 lb max in the multi-purpose tray. Aside from the thickness
limitation it sounded greate and I was really looking forward to trying
it out. Is it worth a try with the thicker stock?

Anyway, any recommendations would be really helpful.

OKI's LED machines can do a fairly thick paper I think. I like Xerox's
Colortech papers which come in a range of thicknesses.

What are the jobs you need to do on it?
 
E

Elliot

Timothy,

To answer your question, I'm printing small booklets that will be cut
to approx 3" by 6 1/2" from the original 8.5 x 11 paper. They will be
printed on both sides with occaisonal color grahpics. I'll be using
approximately 50 sheets for each booklet. This will make a booklet with
200 mini pages once they are cropped.The thick stock is important to
prevent see through on the duplexed paper. The Samsung CLP510 was
interesting because it had the built in duplexing although you aren't
supposed to duplex paper thicker than 25 lbs.

Elliot
 
M

me

In message said:
Timothy,

To answer your question, I'm printing small booklets that will be cut
to approx 3" by 6 1/2" from the original 8.5 x 11 paper. They will be
printed on both sides with occaisonal color grahpics. I'll be using
approximately 50 sheets for each booklet. This will make a booklet with
200 mini pages once they are cropped.The thick stock is important to
prevent see through on the duplexed paper. The Samsung CLP510 was
interesting because it had the built in duplexing although you aren't
supposed to duplex paper thicker than 25 lbs.

Try Xerox Colortech 100gsm paper. I would expect it can take the 135gsm
version as well. I duplex the A3 (11x18) version of the 100gsm and don't
have any see through problems.
 
E

Elliot

Thanks for the tip, I'll check out the Xerox Colortech paper.

I actually bought both the KonicaMinolta Magicolor 2400 ($279 Cnd. Xmas
sale at FutureShop in Montreal) and the Samsung CLP-510. I wanted to
compare them at home and return one or both of them after testing. The
Samsung IMHO is a much nicer machine. The Minolta sounds like it's
about to explode each time it warms up, much higher power consumption
(no power saver mode) and no built in duplexing. The installation and
user guides are really cheap in the Minolta machine. They both print
well in both black and white as well as color on my 60 lb test paper,
althought this might not last. The Samsung won't let you auto duplex
anything but thin paper.

The real and perhaps suprising problem with both of them is the
terrible paper alignment. Just printing a border 1/4 " in from the
paper edge shows how bad it is. The results are very inconsistent from
one printing to the next and sometimes the alignment is off by as much
as 3/16". Very depressing, one would think this part of the technology
would have been worked out years ago. Is this a function of Chinese
quality control or just cheap engineering. I called the Samsung
technical support and they said the machine was defective. I hope
that's true and I will probably exchange it for another since in other
respects it seems like a great machine.

Take care

Elliot
 
W

Warren Block

Elliot said:
Thanks for the tip, I'll check out the Xerox Colortech paper.

I actually bought both the KonicaMinolta Magicolor 2400 ($279 Cnd. Xmas
sale at FutureShop in Montreal) and the Samsung CLP-510. I wanted to
compare them at home and return one or both of them after testing. The
Samsung IMHO is a much nicer machine.

The real and perhaps suprising problem with both of them is the
terrible paper alignment. Just printing a border 1/4 " in from the
paper edge shows how bad it is. The results are very inconsistent from
one printing to the next and sometimes the alignment is off by as much
as 3/16".

In the direction of paper feed, this would not be too surprising. The
paper feed mechanisms will always have some slack, and the traction of
the rollers and properties of the paper could affect it.

Side-to-side, they should be much more consistent.
 
E

Elliot

I'm returning both machines, but will try another Samsung hoping that
the one I got was a dud.

We'll see.
 

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