"Classic logon" screen in XP does not remeber the user name

G

Guest

Steven:

Thanks again for everything, I will follow your suggestions.

Best regards
--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
Hi John.

I can't help you much with PCAnyhwhere though I would suggest that you post
that question in the Microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely newsgroup to
see if anyone can help over there including referring you to a forum
dedicated to PCAnyhwhere if need be.

In general to troubleshoot network applications the first thing to do is to
make sure the application has access to the proper ports used by the
application on the "server" computer accepting the connection. The link
below will give you an idea of what is needed. Any internet router would
need to be configured to forward traffic on those ports to the IP address of
the computer running PCAnyhwhere and software/host firewalls would also
need to allow access.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1998122810210812

I would also make sure that you use Local Security Policy via secpol.msc to
make sure that auditing of logon events is enabled for success and failure,
and privilege use is enabled for failure only. Then the next time you try to
access the computer via PCAnyhwhere check the logs via Event viewer on the
computer you are trying to access to see if any error/warning/failure events
are shown in the application and security logs time stamped at around the
time the logon failed that may help explain the problem.

When posting a question be sure to include the version of XP being used,
what service pack is being used, what version of PCAnyhwhere, if you are
trying access as a regular user account or administrator, and if this is a
problem that you have never been able to correct or new problem to a
configuration that used to work and if so what changes have been made to
your operating system [including security updates and new applications] and
network hardware since the problem started.

Steve


John N said:
Steven:

The transfer file I created was on an external hard drive, so I will just
delete that file off of there. I will check to see what files in My
Documents are duplicated in both prifiles that I don't need, and delete
those
accordingly. Thanks for your suggestions again.

Parting question..................do you know of any forums like this for
PCAnywhere? I have version 10.5 and am having an "Invalid Login" problem.
It
iwould fall under a "security" issue, but I didn't think that a Microsoft
forum was O.K. to use for that product. If you have any interest in
carrying
on outside of this forum, I can certainly give you my email address. Or,
if
you know of any sites that I could search, that would be great.

Best regards,

--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
Sounds like you made some good progress. If you used the File and
Settings
Transfer Wizard you can delete the file it created that you used to the
transfer from one profile to another. Other than that most likely the
space
taken up is files in your My Documents folder which you may not want to
have
in both profiles and if that is the case delete those files from the My
Documents folder that you don't need to be redundant after you make sure
that you can access them fine in the profile you want to use them in. You
can check the subfolders under your user profile to find out the size of
each folder using Windows Explorer.

Steve


Steven:

Again, thanks for your suggestions. I did have to copy the shortcuts
specifically from one profile to the other, and I also used the
Transfer
Files and Settings Wizard. I assume that the Wizard for the most part
does
the same thing as copying the profile in from the users menu? Anyway,
this
time using the Wizard it seemed to work. I compared the desktop and
programs, and about 98-99% was transfered with these methods.

I did however, eat up about 2 gig of hard drive space to accomplish
this.
Oh well.

Best regards,

John
--
John N


:

Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders
between
the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason
you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is
to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system
tools
to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings
to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from
that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I
was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not
the
same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it
didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


:

I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create
[even
if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an
administrator
and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator
account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want
to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user
profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy
and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under
documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK.
Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that
profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user
profile
selected.

Steve


Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted
in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered.
If
you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be
appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator
rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution
to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new
user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I
logged
in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the
same,
and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only
about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs
like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some
of
the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about
15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am
trying
to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of
your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has
been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of
replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that
is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at
the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to
a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server
and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a
person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the
case
with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the
way
it
is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.
 
G

Guest

Hello you two.

You guys work well together.

Quick question. Could John have just copied the Administrator Desktop.ini
file and pasted it in the new admin account?

Thanks

John N said:
Steven:

Thanks again for everything, I will follow your suggestions.

Best regards
--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
Hi John.

I can't help you much with PCAnyhwhere though I would suggest that you post
that question in the Microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely newsgroup to
see if anyone can help over there including referring you to a forum
dedicated to PCAnyhwhere if need be.

In general to troubleshoot network applications the first thing to do is to
make sure the application has access to the proper ports used by the
application on the "server" computer accepting the connection. The link
below will give you an idea of what is needed. Any internet router would
need to be configured to forward traffic on those ports to the IP address of
the computer running PCAnyhwhere and software/host firewalls would also
need to allow access.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1998122810210812

I would also make sure that you use Local Security Policy via secpol.msc to
make sure that auditing of logon events is enabled for success and failure,
and privilege use is enabled for failure only. Then the next time you try to
access the computer via PCAnyhwhere check the logs via Event viewer on the
computer you are trying to access to see if any error/warning/failure events
are shown in the application and security logs time stamped at around the
time the logon failed that may help explain the problem.

When posting a question be sure to include the version of XP being used,
what service pack is being used, what version of PCAnyhwhere, if you are
trying access as a regular user account or administrator, and if this is a
problem that you have never been able to correct or new problem to a
configuration that used to work and if so what changes have been made to
your operating system [including security updates and new applications] and
network hardware since the problem started.

Steve


John N said:
Steven:

The transfer file I created was on an external hard drive, so I will just
delete that file off of there. I will check to see what files in My
Documents are duplicated in both prifiles that I don't need, and delete
those
accordingly. Thanks for your suggestions again.

Parting question..................do you know of any forums like this for
PCAnywhere? I have version 10.5 and am having an "Invalid Login" problem.
It
iwould fall under a "security" issue, but I didn't think that a Microsoft
forum was O.K. to use for that product. If you have any interest in
carrying
on outside of this forum, I can certainly give you my email address. Or,
if
you know of any sites that I could search, that would be great.

Best regards,

--
John N


:

Sounds like you made some good progress. If you used the File and
Settings
Transfer Wizard you can delete the file it created that you used to the
transfer from one profile to another. Other than that most likely the
space
taken up is files in your My Documents folder which you may not want to
have
in both profiles and if that is the case delete those files from the My
Documents folder that you don't need to be redundant after you make sure
that you can access them fine in the profile you want to use them in. You
can check the subfolders under your user profile to find out the size of
each folder using Windows Explorer.

Steve


Steven:

Again, thanks for your suggestions. I did have to copy the shortcuts
specifically from one profile to the other, and I also used the
Transfer
Files and Settings Wizard. I assume that the Wizard for the most part
does
the same thing as copying the profile in from the users menu? Anyway,
this
time using the Wizard it seemed to work. I compared the desktop and
programs, and about 98-99% was transfered with these methods.

I did however, eat up about 2 gig of hard drive space to accomplish
this.
Oh well.

Best regards,

John
--
John N


:

Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders
between
the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason
you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is
to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system
tools
to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings
to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from
that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I
was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not
the
same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it
didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


:

I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create
[even
if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an
administrator
and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator
account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want
to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user
profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy
and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under
documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK.
Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that
profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user
profile
selected.

Steve


Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted
in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered.
If
you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be
appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator
rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution
to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new
user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I
logged
in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the
same,
and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only
about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs
like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some
of
the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about
15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am
trying
to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of
your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has
been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of
replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that
is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at
the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to
a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server
and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a
person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the
case
with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the
way
 

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