Chuck's Worst Nightmare - Enabling DHCP???

G

Guest

Hey all (probably just Chuck haha) I set the network up on some software that
came with the TRENDnet rooter - 'Broadband IP Gateway + Fast EtherSwitch' -
when I open the program I see a profile for both computers, but neither have
an actual internet connection.

Chuck you said "Enable DHCP on the router, and setup the router per your
ISP's service." you overestimate my knowledge lol...what is DHCP and how
would I go about enabling it and setting up my ISP's service???

I also have no idea what the DHCP client is, or how I'd go about enabling
that...I think I know how to get IP addresses though.

Thanks...and sorry again...I am the network bafoon
Alex
 
C

Chuck

Hey all (probably just Chuck haha) I set the network up on some software that
came with the TRENDnet rooter - 'Broadband IP Gateway + Fast EtherSwitch' -
when I open the program I see a profile for both computers, but neither have
an actual internet connection.

Chuck you said "Enable DHCP on the router, and setup the router per your
ISP's service." you overestimate my knowledge lol...what is DHCP and how
would I go about enabling it and setting up my ISP's service???

I also have no idea what the DHCP client is, or how I'd go about enabling
that...I think I know how to get IP addresses though.

Thanks...and sorry again...I am the network bafoon
Alex

Alex,

DHCP is a service on the router (or DHCP server in a large LAN) that
automatically assigns ip addresses, and passes other essential IP configuration.

On your (XP) computer, you enable it with "Obtain an IP address automatically"
and "Obtain DNS server address automatically" selections, in TCP/IP Properties.

On the router, this varies. With most routers, DHCP is enabled out of the box,
leaving you to disable it when appropriate. Can you access the configuration
for the router (usually a web page)? How do you set up the router? I don't
have access to a TrendNet TW100-S4W1CA, on a Linksys for instance there's a menu
marked "DHCP". This may be a case where you have to RTFM.

Can you access the router with one computer (to configure the router)? If so,
and that computer still can't access the internet, I'd bet that MAC address
registration (see previous thread) is the problem.

And Alex, can you please keep your posts in one thread? It's hella easier
finding previous posts when they're in the same thread (same Subject).

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
C

Chuck

Hey all (probably just Chuck haha) I set the network up on some software that
came with the TRENDnet rooter - 'Broadband IP Gateway + Fast EtherSwitch' -
when I open the program I see a profile for both computers, but neither have
an actual internet connection.

Chuck you said "Enable DHCP on the router, and setup the router per your
ISP's service." you overestimate my knowledge lol...what is DHCP and how
would I go about enabling it and setting up my ISP's service???

I also have no idea what the DHCP client is, or how I'd go about enabling
that...I think I know how to get IP addresses though.

Thanks...and sorry again...I am the network bafoon
Alex

Alex,

DHCP is a service on the router (or DHCP server in a large LAN) that
automatically assigns ip addresses, and passes other essential IP configuration.

On your (XP) computer, you enable it with "Obtain an IP address automatically"
and "Obtain DNS server address automatically" selections, in TCP/IP Properties.

On the router, this varies. With most routers, DHCP is enabled out of the box,
leaving you to disable it when appropriate. Can you access the configuration
for the router (usually a web page)? How do you set up the router? I don't
have access to a TrendNet TW100-S4W1CA, on a Linksys for instance there's a menu
marked "DHCP". This may be a case where you have to RTFM.

Can you access the router with one computer (to configure the router)? If so,
and that computer still can't access the internet, I'd bet that MAC address
registration (see previous thread) is the problem.

WRT your IPS's service, the router has to be setup properly to communicate with
the ISP. Just as your computer had to be (maybe with a utility provided by your
ISP), before you added the router to confuse the issue. There are three common
services:
1) Fixed IP address.
2) Dynamic IP address (You get a dynamic address from your ISP, just as your
computer gets a dynamic address from your router).
3) Dynamic IP address with login (aka PPPoE).

Cable broadband services generally use #2 - simple dynamic ip address. Cheaper
DSL services use #3 - PPPoE, or #2. If you want to run a server from your home,
you need #1, fixed ip address service (expect to pay extra with most ISPs).

And Alex, can you please keep your posts in one thread? It's hella easier
finding previous posts when they're in the same thread (same Subject).

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
G

Guest

Hey Chuck,
To configure the router I have to open htpp://192.168.1.254 in
explorer...then I am taken to TW100-S4WICA (ver 1.02.000.258). There I have
a load of options down the left side of the screen. If I go to 'Network
Status' then 'WAN IP Status' it says 'Link Status - DHCP Under Claim'. I
have set both computers to automatically obtain IP and DNS server addresses
in the TCP/IP option screen.

Then in the TW100-S4WICA program I have selected 'Obtain configuration
automatically (CATV dynamic mode)' as the Internet Connection Mode. Also in
the program I can go to 'Network Status' - 'User List' and see both of the
Computers that I have connected to the router, they are listed with their IP
and node addresses.

Any ideas where the problem is? I am guessing it is something to do with the
ISP going through the router. My apologies for starting new topics, couldnt
find the old ones cause of problems with service pack 2 (for a different help
group entirely).

Thanks for all the effort.
Alex
 
C

Chuck

Hey Chuck,
To configure the router I have to open htpp://192.168.1.254 in
explorer...then I am taken to TW100-S4WICA (ver 1.02.000.258). There I have
a load of options down the left side of the screen. If I go to 'Network
Status' then 'WAN IP Status' it says 'Link Status - DHCP Under Claim'. I
have set both computers to automatically obtain IP and DNS server addresses
in the TCP/IP option screen.

Then in the TW100-S4WICA program I have selected 'Obtain configuration
automatically (CATV dynamic mode)' as the Internet Connection Mode. Also in
the program I can go to 'Network Status' - 'User List' and see both of the
Computers that I have connected to the router, they are listed with their IP
and node addresses.

Any ideas where the problem is? I am guessing it is something to do with the
ISP going through the router. My apologies for starting new topics, couldnt
find the old ones cause of problems with service pack 2 (for a different help
group entirely).

Thanks for all the effort.
Alex

Alex,

Sounds like you're getting somewhere. What ip addresses does the DHCP log on
the router show its issuing to the computers? Does that agree with the
computers themselves?

Getting back to the problem at hand (what is the problem at hand? %-} ), with
the computers connected to the router, and presumably getting ip addresses, is
there a problem?

From the computer:
From a command window:
1) Ping www.yahoo.com.
2) Ping 66.94.230.33.
Report success / exact text of error messages.

From your browser:
3) Browse www.yahoo.com.
4) Browse 66.94.230.33.
Report success / exact text of error messages.

Please provide ipconfig information for that computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Identify operating system (by name and version) with the ipconfig listing.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
G

Guest

Hey Chuck,
My IP is 192.168.1.2 which is the same as what the router program says on
the user lists (with the second computers IP as 192.168.1.1)

When I typed ipconfig in cmd I got this info...hope it helps...

***********************************************************

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . . : Domain
IP Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

***********************************************************

I got the exact same info on the second computer apart from the last diget
of the IP address being 1, instead of 2.

When I type "www.yahoo.com" into the browser I get the "page cannot be
found" page.
When I type "66.94.230.33" I get a window pop up that says "internet
explorer could not open the search page"

Computer 1 is running Windows XP Proffesional
Computer 2 is running Windows XP Home edition

Thanks
Alex
 
G

Guest

ps - in 'Network Connections' for some reason there are 4 icons...

1394 Connection
1394 Connection 2
Local Area Connection
Local Area Connection 3

Local Area Connection 3 seems to be the main connection, with the modem
plugged straight into my pc via the USB. When I have the network all rigged
up (without actually being able to access the internet) the only connection
that has any activity in the status menu is "1394 Connection 2" which has a
very small amount of packages sent and received.

Dont know if that helps any, just seemed odd that there are so many
connections which I didnt create...
Alex
 
C

Chuck

ps - in 'Network Connections' for some reason there are 4 icons...

1394 Connection
1394 Connection 2
Local Area Connection
Local Area Connection 3

Local Area Connection 3 seems to be the main connection, with the modem
plugged straight into my pc via the USB. When I have the network all rigged
up (without actually being able to access the internet) the only connection
that has any activity in the status menu is "1394 Connection 2" which has a
very small amount of packages sent and received.

Dont know if that helps any, just seemed odd that there are so many
connections which I didnt create...
Alex

Alex,

What ip address does the router have? Is that 192.168.1.254?

What about pinging from your computer (Start - Run - "cmd" - type "ping
66.94.230.33")? ("Ping 192.168.1.254")? That will tell us if you actually have
a connectivity issue, or a browser issue.

Compare the output from "ipconfig" and "ipconfig /all". How about "ipconfig
/all" for both computers, posted here. That should tell us a bit about the
extra network connections.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
G

Guest

Okay...

I typed Ping 66.94.230.33 into cmd and got:

******************************************
Pinging 66.94.230.33 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 66.94.230.33:
Packets: Sent = 4, Recieved = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
******************************************

When I typed Ping 192.168.1.254 into cmd I got:

******************************************
Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
Packets: sent = 4, Received = 4. Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

*******************************************

As far as the ipconfig feedback I got....

***IPCONFIG on PC1***
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DSN Suffix: Domain
IP Address ...........................: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask.........................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway....................: 192.168.1.254

***IPCONFIG /ALL on PC1***
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name....................: bob
Primary Dns Suffix.........:
Node Type....................: Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled.........: No
WINS Proxy Enabled.......: No
DNS Suffix Search List....: Domain

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix.......: Domain
Description...................................: VIA VT6102 Rhine II Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address...........................: 00-50-8D-FD-41-E1
Dhcp Enabled................................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled..............: Yes
IP Address....................................: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask.................................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway............................: 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server.................................: 192.168.1.254
Primary WINS Server.....................: 192.168.100.1
Lease Obtained..............................: 21 October 2004 22:26:32
Lease Expires.................................: 22 October 2004 10:26:32

*************************************************

***IPCONGIF PC2***
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name....................: Mofinski
Primary Dns Suffix.........:
Node Type....................: Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled.........: No
WINS Proxy Enabled.......: No
DNS Suffix Search List....: Domain

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix.......: Domain
Description...................................: Intel [R] PRO-100 VE Network
Connection
Physical Address...........................: 00-0C-F1-F2-22-03
Dhcp Enabled................................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled..............: Yes
IP Address....................................: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask.................................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway............................: 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server.................................: 192.168.1.254
DNS Servers.................................: 192.168.1.254
Primary WINS Server.....................: 192.168.100.1
Lease Obtained..............................: 21 October 2004 22:26:32
Lease Expires.................................: 22 October 2004 10:26:32
*******************************************

Hope that all makes sense to you mate...Sorry my replies are slow..I had to
type it all up from DOS...lol

Cheers
Alex
 
G

Guest

Okay man...

I typed Ping 66.94.230.33 into cmd and got:

******************************************
Pinging 66.94.230.33 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 66.94.230.33:
Packets: Sent = 4, Recieved = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
******************************************

When I typed Ping 192.168.1.254 into cmd I got:

******************************************
Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
Packets: sent = 4, Received = 4. Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

*******************************************

As far as the ipconfig feedback I got....

***IPCONFIG on PC1***
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DSN Suffix: Domain
IP Address ...........................: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask.........................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway....................: 192.168.1.254

***IPCONFIG /ALL on PC1***
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name....................: bob
Primary Dns Suffix.........:
Node Type....................: Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled.........: No
WINS Proxy Enabled.......: No
DNS Suffix Search List....: Domain

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix.......: Domain
Description...................................: VIA VT6102 Rhine II Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address...........................: 00-50-8D-FD-41-E1
Dhcp Enabled................................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled..............: Yes
IP Address....................................: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask.................................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway............................: 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server.................................: 192.168.1.254
Primary WINS Server.....................: 192.168.100.1
Lease Obtained..............................: 21 October 2004 22:26:32
Lease Expires.................................: 22 October 2004 10:26:32

*************************************************

***IPCONGIF /ALL on PC2***
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name....................: Mofinski
Primary Dns Suffix.........:
Node Type....................: Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled.........: No
WINS Proxy Enabled.......: No
DNS Suffix Search List....: Domain

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix.......: Domain
Description...................................: Intel [R] PRO-100 VE Network
Connection
Physical Address...........................: 00-0C-F1-F2-22-03
Dhcp Enabled................................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled..............: Yes
IP Address....................................: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask.................................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway............................: 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server.................................: 192.168.1.254
DNS Servers.................................: 192.168.1.254
Primary WINS Server.....................: 192.168.100.1
Lease Obtained..............................: 21 October 2004 22:26:32
Lease Expires.................................: 22 October 2004 10:26:32
*******************************************

Hope that all makes sense to you mate...Sorry my replies are slow..I had to
type it all up from DOS...lol

Cheers
Alex
 
C

Chuck

Okay man...

I typed Ping 66.94.230.33 into cmd and got:

******************************************
Pinging 66.94.230.33 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 66.94.230.33:
Packets: Sent = 4, Recieved = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
******************************************

When I typed Ping 192.168.1.254 into cmd I got:

******************************************
Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
Packets: sent = 4, Received = 4. Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

*******************************************

As far as the ipconfig feedback I got....

***IPCONFIG on PC1***
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DSN Suffix: Domain
IP Address ...........................: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask.........................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway....................: 192.168.1.254

***IPCONFIG /ALL on PC1***
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name....................: bob
Primary Dns Suffix.........:
Node Type....................: Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled.........: No
WINS Proxy Enabled.......: No
DNS Suffix Search List....: Domain

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix.......: Domain
Description...................................: VIA VT6102 Rhine II Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address...........................: 00-50-8D-FD-41-E1
Dhcp Enabled................................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled..............: Yes
IP Address....................................: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask.................................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway............................: 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server.................................: 192.168.1.254
Primary WINS Server.....................: 192.168.100.1
Lease Obtained..............................: 21 October 2004 22:26:32
Lease Expires.................................: 22 October 2004 10:26:32

*************************************************

***IPCONGIF /ALL on PC2***
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name....................: Mofinski
Primary Dns Suffix.........:
Node Type....................: Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled.........: No
WINS Proxy Enabled.......: No
DNS Suffix Search List....: Domain

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix.......: Domain
Description...................................: Intel [R] PRO-100 VE Network
Connection
Physical Address...........................: 00-0C-F1-F2-22-03
Dhcp Enabled................................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled..............: Yes
IP Address....................................: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask.................................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway............................: 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server.................................: 192.168.1.254
DNS Servers.................................: 192.168.1.254
Primary WINS Server.....................: 192.168.100.1
Lease Obtained..............................: 21 October 2004 22:26:32
Lease Expires.................................: 22 October 2004 10:26:32
*******************************************

Hope that all makes sense to you mate...Sorry my replies are slow..I had to
type it all up from DOS...lol

Cheers
Alex

OK, Alex,

We'll do the ipconfig bit again later. But, when you do, try
"ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" in the command window, then open
c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Don't type it by hand, get it out of c:\ipconfig.txt.

This is what it looks like (sanitised) for one of my comps.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MyComp
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For
Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-D7-E2-BA
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.50
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.201.99.11
10.201.99.33
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:53:45
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:53:45

Apparently, you're getting connectivity from both computers to router. No prob
there.

My guess is that the router still isn't being recognised by the modem / ISP DHCP
server. Assuming you have physical connectivity between the modem and router.

Do the lights on the router indicate a physical WAN connection established (with
your ISP)? Login to the router from a computer, look at the status page, does
it indicate a WAN ip address?

Either you have to hook every thing up like it was before you got the router
(modem - USB cable - computer), then follow Doug's advice and do an "ipconfig
/release", THEN reconnect everything up as it is right now and try reconnecting.

Or, power each device off, one at a time. Then:
1) Power the modem on. Wait 5 - 10 minutes.
2) Power the router on.
3) Power each computer on.

Do you have cable or DSL? I can't tell from your headers. :-(

Check with your ISP, find out if you have fixed, dynamic, or PPPoE service (DSL
only). Make sure the router is setup properly. I'd bet you ran a wizard to
setup your service, thru the USB cable, on your comp. Wizards can't setup
routers - unfortunately, you have to do that by hand.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
G

Guest

The router has 7 lights on the front...Power/Err - Internet - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 -
Have Mail

Power has a solid LED, Internet flashes a bit then becomes solid, then
flashes etc....and 1 and 2 both have a solid light.

My internet is Cable.

The was no WAN Address on the router program thing...the only thing on the
WAN screen that was worth mentioning was 'Link Status' - 'DHCP Under
Claiming". The completely useless guide that came with the router says that
the Link Status should be "connected", but doesnt say what to do if it isnt :|

I'll wait till tomorrow incase there are any bright sparks as to what the
problem is lol...then I'll try to release the IP and reconnect the network
from scratch. That wont mean that I cant get back on the internet with at
least this computer if everything still goes wrong will it?

Thanks for the help.
Alex

Chuck said:
Okay man...

I typed Ping 66.94.230.33 into cmd and got:

******************************************
Pinging 66.94.230.33 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 66.94.230.33:
Packets: Sent = 4, Recieved = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
******************************************

When I typed Ping 192.168.1.254 into cmd I got:

******************************************
Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=100

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
Packets: sent = 4, Received = 4. Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

*******************************************

As far as the ipconfig feedback I got....

***IPCONFIG on PC1***
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DSN Suffix: Domain
IP Address ...........................: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask.........................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway....................: 192.168.1.254

***IPCONFIG /ALL on PC1***
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name....................: bob
Primary Dns Suffix.........:
Node Type....................: Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled.........: No
WINS Proxy Enabled.......: No
DNS Suffix Search List....: Domain

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix.......: Domain
Description...................................: VIA VT6102 Rhine II Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address...........................: 00-50-8D-FD-41-E1
Dhcp Enabled................................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled..............: Yes
IP Address....................................: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask.................................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway............................: 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server.................................: 192.168.1.254
Primary WINS Server.....................: 192.168.100.1
Lease Obtained..............................: 21 October 2004 22:26:32
Lease Expires.................................: 22 October 2004 10:26:32

*************************************************

***IPCONGIF /ALL on PC2***
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name....................: Mofinski
Primary Dns Suffix.........:
Node Type....................: Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled.........: No
WINS Proxy Enabled.......: No
DNS Suffix Search List....: Domain

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix.......: Domain
Description...................................: Intel [R] PRO-100 VE Network
Connection
Physical Address...........................: 00-0C-F1-F2-22-03
Dhcp Enabled................................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled..............: Yes
IP Address....................................: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask.................................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway............................: 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server.................................: 192.168.1.254
DNS Servers.................................: 192.168.1.254
Primary WINS Server.....................: 192.168.100.1
Lease Obtained..............................: 21 October 2004 22:26:32
Lease Expires.................................: 22 October 2004 10:26:32
*******************************************

Hope that all makes sense to you mate...Sorry my replies are slow..I had to
type it all up from DOS...lol

Cheers
Alex

OK, Alex,

We'll do the ipconfig bit again later. But, when you do, try
"ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" in the command window, then open
c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Don't type it by hand, get it out of c:\ipconfig.txt.

This is what it looks like (sanitised) for one of my comps.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MyComp
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For
Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-D7-E2-BA
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.50
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.201.99.11
10.201.99.33
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:53:45
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:53:45

Apparently, you're getting connectivity from both computers to router. No prob
there.

My guess is that the router still isn't being recognised by the modem / ISP DHCP
server. Assuming you have physical connectivity between the modem and router.

Do the lights on the router indicate a physical WAN connection established (with
your ISP)? Login to the router from a computer, look at the status page, does
it indicate a WAN ip address?

Either you have to hook every thing up like it was before you got the router
(modem - USB cable - computer), then follow Doug's advice and do an "ipconfig
/release", THEN reconnect everything up as it is right now and try reconnecting.

Or, power each device off, one at a time. Then:
1) Power the modem on. Wait 5 - 10 minutes.
2) Power the router on.
3) Power each computer on.

Do you have cable or DSL? I can't tell from your headers. :-(

Check with your ISP, find out if you have fixed, dynamic, or PPPoE service (DSL
only). Make sure the router is setup properly. I'd bet you ran a wizard to
setup your service, thru the USB cable, on your comp. Wizards can't setup
routers - unfortunately, you have to do that by hand.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
C

Chuck

The router has 7 lights on the front...Power/Err - Internet - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 -
Have Mail

Power has a solid LED, Internet flashes a bit then becomes solid, then
flashes etc....and 1 and 2 both have a solid light.

My internet is Cable.

The was no WAN Address on the router program thing...the only thing on the
WAN screen that was worth mentioning was 'Link Status' - 'DHCP Under
Claiming". The completely useless guide that came with the router says that
the Link Status should be "connected", but doesnt say what to do if it isnt :|

I'll wait till tomorrow incase there are any bright sparks as to what the
problem is lol...then I'll try to release the IP and reconnect the network
from scratch. That wont mean that I cant get back on the internet with at
least this computer if everything still goes wrong will it?

Thanks for the help.
Alex

Al,

What is "this computer" that you're posting from right now? Has it been
operational all the time you've been trying to get the router working?

Cable is probably dynamic ip address. Which probably relates to "DHCP Under
Claiming".

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
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Guest

"This Computer" is Computer 1 of the Network I'm trying to set up...each time
I get info about the router or access the router program thing I have to turn
the internet off...set the network up....get the info...and come back.
lol...hard work. The computer has been operational all the time I've been
trying to get the router working.

Thanks
Al
 
C

Chuck

The router has 7 lights on the front...Power/Err - Internet - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 -
Have Mail

Power has a solid LED, Internet flashes a bit then becomes solid, then
flashes etc....and 1 and 2 both have a solid light.

My internet is Cable.

The was no WAN Address on the router program thing...the only thing on the
WAN screen that was worth mentioning was 'Link Status' - 'DHCP Under
Claiming". The completely useless guide that came with the router says that
the Link Status should be "connected", but doesnt say what to do if it isnt :|

I'll wait till tomorrow incase there are any bright sparks as to what the
problem is lol...then I'll try to release the IP and reconnect the network
from scratch. That wont mean that I cant get back on the internet with at
least this computer if everything still goes wrong will it?

Thanks for the help.
Alex

Alex,

How is this computer, that you're posting from, getting internet service? Is
this the original computer, still connected by USB cable to the modem? If so,
there's your problem.

You're going to have to disconnect the USB connection BEFORE you can use the
router. The modem may have 2 ports (Ethernet and USB), but you can't use both
at the same time.

What I recommend you do is:
1) Get computer #2 (without USB connection) connected, and working with the
router. Make sure computer #2 can login to the router, and access its
configuration program.
2) From computer #1, do "ipconfig /release".
3) Disconnect the USB cable from the modem. Connect the Ethernet cable to the
modem, and to the router WAN port.
4) Power the modem, then the router, off. Leave alone 5 - 10 minutes.
5) Power the modem on.
6) Power the router on.
7) From computer #2, ping the router by ip address. Successful? If so, ping
66.94.230.33. Then ping www.yahoo.com.
8) If all 3 pings from step 7 successful, then disconnect computer #1 from the
USB cable, and connect it to the router. Repeat pings in step 7 from computer
1.

Unfortunately, sometime you will have to take a leap of faith, and disconnect
something. Just plan what you need to do, and plan how to reverse anything you
have to do. Then do it.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
C

Chuck

"This Computer" is Computer 1 of the Network I'm trying to set up...each time
I get info about the router or access the router program thing I have to turn
the internet off...set the network up....get the info...and come back.
lol...hard work. The computer has been operational all the time I've been
trying to get the router working.

Thanks
Al

That's it then. See my other ranting.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
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Guest

no no...I have been taking out the USB line completely each time I set the
network up (I actually have to in order to get it working). But I will
follow the steps you listed tomorrow morning and see what happens.

Thanks for all the helps, you the man.
Alex

ps - I'll post again tomorrow at about 6pm when it still isnt working. lol
 
C

Chuck

no no...I have been taking out the USB line completely each time I set the
network up (I actually have to in order to get it working). But I will
follow the steps you listed tomorrow morning and see what happens.

Thanks for all the helps, you the man.
Alex

ps - I'll post again tomorrow at about 6pm when it still isnt working. lol

I have a Watch Filter on this thread, and on your userid.

Be optimistic.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
G

Guest

HAHAHAHA done and done Chuck...I followed the steps you said...and only got
to #2...turns out all I had to do was get the second computer going through
the router first...then connect the first. :D

Thanks for all the help mates.
Al
 
C

Chuck

HAHAHAHA done and done Chuck...I followed the steps you said...and only got
to #2...turns out all I had to do was get the second computer going through
the router first...then connect the first. :D

Thanks for all the help mates.
Al

Excellent, Al! Thanks for the update.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 

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