Chess Titans - The Cheating Computer

G

Guest

So, I'm trying out the games in Vista (Priorities you know) and I'm playing
Chess Titans. I'm doing really good too. Down to the Queen, a Rook and of
crouse my King. The computer is down just it's King. I start narrowing in on
the computers King and it get's to a point that it can't move, you know ..
Checkmate and what does it do? A nice message box comes up and says the game
is a draw. 8-|

Better turn up the logic debuggin on that one. ;)
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Doug;
If the king is not currently in check but any move will place the king in
check, that is a draw.
That is the price you pay for allowing that situation to happen
This is not a bug, it is the rule of Chess.
 
Z

Zack Uribe

That is what he was saying, there are no "LEGAL" moves available. It is not
legal to move your king into a checked position, it is only checkmate when
he is in a position where he is in check and has no moves to get out of
check.
 
J

Jason

Maybe I am reading something wrong. He stated that "The computer is down just it's King. I start narrowing in on the computers King and it get's to a point that it can't move"

To me that does not sound like he was the one that lost. To me, Doug was refering to the computer's King and not his. Doug also stated he had several pieces. Am I missing something else?
 
Z

Zack Uribe

Ok, DOug has a few pieces, the computer is down to his king....Doug
"surrounds" him so that the king can not LEGALLY move into any of the spaces
around him, that is if the king were to move into any of those spaces, it
would be putting itself in check, an illegal move. At that point in the
game, there are no more legal moves for the computer so the game is a draw.

If the king were in check and could not make any moves, the king would be
checkmated, and Doug would have won.

Maybe I am reading something wrong. He stated that "The computer is down
just it's King. I start narrowing in on the computers King and it get's to a
point that it can't move"

To me that does not sound like he was the one that lost. To me, Doug was
refering to the computer's King and not his. Doug also stated he had
several pieces. Am I missing something else?
 
J

Jason

I truly agree, but I didn't get the impression from Doug that his king was
in a position that it couldn't move safely. He stated that he was moving in
on the computer's king and the game decided to call it a draw instead of
allowing Doug to put the computer's king in check mate. If this is the
case, then Doug should file a bug report.

Chess is a fun game, and I am very happy that it is in beta 2. I am hoping
that it will remain when Vista goes on sale to the public.
 
Z

Zack Uribe

What I, and the original responder got from his post was that yes, Doug was
attacking, and got to the stalemate I described...HE(Doug) felt that since
he had caused the Computer into the situation where it could not move he
should have been awarded a WIN, whereas we pointed out that he had not won,
he had caused a DRAW.

We believe that he misunderstands the rules of the game, and since he had a
definate advantage when the game was ended felt he "Won" and called the
computer a cheater when it told him that no, he had not won, but had rather
drawn...
 
G

Guest

It is called STALEMATE, not CHECKMATE.

Pity you took a winning position and turned it into a draw.
 
G

Guest

Actually, I did not mean stalemate. I would have said stalemate if I meant
stalemate. It was checkmate as I said in my original post. I moved my queen
into a spot and placed the computers king in check and instead of calling it
a win, it called it a draw. I'm not like a chess guru or aything but I do
understand the rules of Chess.
 
G

Guest

Zack Uribe said:
What I, and the original responder got from his post was that yes, Doug was
attacking, and got to the stalemate I described...HE(Doug) felt that since
he had caused the Computer into the situation where it could not move he
should have been awarded a WIN, whereas we pointed out that he had not won,
he had caused a DRAW.

We believe that he misunderstands the rules of the game, and since he had a
definate advantage when the game was ended felt he "Won" and called the
computer a cheater when it told him that no, he had not won, but had rather
drawn...
It's O.K. Zack, "I" understand completely what you are saying, even if
others cannot!

You are right!
Even though I was a bit puzzled myself when playing the game, after reading
your explaination, I now understand completely!

The opposing king may not place itself in check (as we all already know) and
if said king has no other "FREE/LEGAL" places to move, (as is the case stated
earlier) the game must end, in this case, it must "DRAW"!

Cheers Zack,

Lee-roy.
 
D

David Wright

Draw by Repetition: If the same position occurs 3 times (not necessarily on
consecutive moves) with the same player to move, either player may point
this out and claim a draw

Fifty-Move Rule: If either player makes 50 consecutive moves without moving
a pawn or making a capture (irreversible moves), either player may claim a
draw.
 

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