Can't work with Vista business

[Guest]

I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try to
work:
1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press the
power button and shut it down.
2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?
3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
minutes) whilst they install.
4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have to
use my new 2gb pen drive.
5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so the
program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but I
can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor, 1gb
of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For the
youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram, but
was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to make
life easier, not stop it in its tracks.
Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Steve

 

[Mark]

I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try to
work:
1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press the
power button and shut it down.

Any non-configured or disabled devices in Device Manager?

Did you run the Vista Upgrade Advisor before installing Vista and
removing XP from the computer?

2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?

Scarcity computing.

The User Access Control (UAC) just works that way. You can disable it
in the Control Panel - User Accounts - User Accounts and click the
option 'Turn User Account Control on or off'.

If Vista's UAC would remember like ZoneAlarm, or at least remember what
you previously authorized to access during your logged in Windows
session, this would be more user friendly than user annoyance (or nuisance).

3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
minutes) whilst they install.

This problem correlates to #1 above.

To take a guess, probably a chipset incompatible driver that may need to
get upgraded to a Vista compatible driver.

4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have to
use my new 2gb pen drive.

Make sure you set the permissions correctly on the Vista share. At
first I had same problem and remember correcting the access denied issue
when I adjusted the share permissions.

5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so the
program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but I
can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor, 1gb
of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For the
youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram, but
was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to make
life easier, not stop it in its tracks.

Comparing Windows Vista to Windows XP, Windows XP is the less complex
and complicated operating system to navigate.

 

[Kerry Brown]

I have seen problems like you describe. It was always due to incompatible
hardware or a wrong or a buggy driver. Did you upgrade or perform a clean
install? If you did an upgrade my first suggestion would be to start again
with a clean install to make sure the problems aren't caused by an
incompatible program or driver carried over from XP.

 

[Saucy]

INLINE:

I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try
to
work:
1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press
the
power button and shut it down.

Set up a different power saving scheme that doesn't include hibernation or
sleep. My mobo has never gotten Sleep right. 'Could be the KVM switch

2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?

You can easily turn off UAC. Especially at first you might want to, if you
are installing a lot of software from CD. Once everything is set up on a
machine you might turn it back on as it is designed to keep malware at bay.

3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
minutes) whilst they install.

No. An update will probably not fix this issue. It could be caused by a
virus scanner or some 3rd party app you've installed. Or , if you have done
an upgrade, a misconfiguration of some app that was present when XP was the
OS.

4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have
to
use my new 2gb pen drive.

You just haven't learned what's going on. Vista is using the more secure
method of networking by default i.e. one must have an account to network
with your computer. Check the various Networking features which can be
accesed through the Control Panel. You can adjust the Password Protected
networking feature.

5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so
the
program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but
I
can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor,
1gb
of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For
the
youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram,
but
was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to
make
life easier, not stop it in its tracks.
Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Steve

You can use another performace utility that comes with Vista and is found in
Computer Management:

Start > right-click Computer > select manage > on the left-hand pane click
on "Reliability and Performance"

Did you clean install Vista (from scratch) or do an upgrade? I would
recommend trying again - doing a clean install from scratch - if the
installation you have is an upgrade install. There is a technique to clean
install from scratch even if you only have the upgrade media:

[How to Clean Install Windows Vista with Upgrade Media]
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

Before doing so, check for and download and burn to CD-R the latest drivers
from the manufacturer's websites. Line-up product CD, keys, codes and any
other necessary info. Make sure important data e.g. documents, music, etc.
etc. is backed up.

'Hope it works for you.

 

[Guest]

See below:
--
Steve Franks

Any non-configured or disabled devices in Device Manager?

<< No, device manager shows everything working.

Did you run the Vista Upgrade Advisor before installing Vista and
removing XP from the computer?

<< Yes VUA said the machine was fine, everything should work. Having said
that I had the same result with my other PC and Vista wouldn't start on it.

Scarcity computing.

The User Access Control (UAC) just works that way. You can disable it
in the Control Panel - User Accounts - User Accounts and click the
option 'Turn User Account Control on or off'.

<< Sounds dangerous, I'll have to think wehther I can stand the annoyance.
This is the least of my problems.

If Vista's UAC would remember like ZoneAlarm, or at least remember what
you previously authorized to access during your logged in Windows
session, this would be more user friendly than user annoyance (or nuisance).


This problem correlates to #1 above.

To take a guess, probably a chipset incompatible driver that may need to
get upgraded to a Vista compatible driver. <<

Make sure you set the permissions correctly on the Vista share. At
first I had same problem and remember correcting the access denied issue
when I adjusted the share permissions.

Comparing Windows Vista to Windows XP, Windows XP is the less complex
and complicated operating system to navigate.

<< As I said before I thought Vista was going to make it easier for me to do
what I want, that's not the case so far.

 

[Guest]

I have the Vista upgrade disk, so upgraded.
I've read that this can be used for a clean install, but MS frown upon it.
Device manager seems to think that all of the drivers are up to date.

 

[Kerry Brown]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=196

 

[Guest]

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

--
Steve Franks

INLINE:





Set up a different power saving scheme that doesn't include hibernation or
sleep. My mobo has never gotten Sleep right. 'Could be the KVM switch


You can easily turn off UAC. Especially at first you might want to, if you
are installing a lot of software from CD. Once everything is set up on a
machine you might turn it back on as it is designed to keep malware at bay.

<> This is beyond a joke, I can't even copy files to my pen drive, without
changing permissions. When I changed permissions to allow everyone full
control Windows wouldn't let me move files to a subfolder!
I really cannot waste any more time on this.

No. An update will probably not fix this issue. It could be caused by a
virus scanner or some 3rd party app you've installed. Or , if you have done
an upgrade, a misconfiguration of some app that was present when XP was the
OS.



You just haven't learned what's going on. Vista is using the more secure
method of networking by default i.e. one must have an account to network
with your computer. Check the various Networking features which can be
accesed through the Control Panel. You can adjust the Password Protected
networking feature.

<> I don't want to learn what's going on. I should not have to. If I buy a
car I don't expect to have to take an automotive engineering degree before I
can drive it away.
The defaults should allow one to perform reasonable actions, like copying
files between folders/computers. It defeats the object when a computer
administrator doesn't have sufficient rights to perform these everyday
functions.

You can use another performace utility that comes with Vista and is found in
Computer Management:

Start > right-click Computer > select manage > on the left-hand pane click
on "Reliability and Performance"

Did you clean install Vista (from scratch) or do an upgrade? I would
recommend trying again - doing a clean install from scratch - if the
installation you have is an upgrade install. There is a technique to clean
install from scratch even if you only have the upgrade media:

[How to Clean Install Windows Vista with Upgrade Media]
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

Before doing so, check for and download and burn to CD-R the latest drivers
from the manufacturer's websites. Line-up product CD, keys, codes and any
other necessary info. Make sure important data e.g. documents, music, etc.
etc. is backed up.

<>I've wasted too much time already. If I have to format the drive to
install from scratch I'll just go back to XP.
The real killer for me is that I can't back up Vista across my network,
because it won't write the data to my XP Home computer.

Maybe when Microsoft have issued a couple of service packs I'll try again,
but right now I'm going to reformat and install XP.

'Hope it works for you.

 

[Jake]

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

--
Steve Franks

INLINE:





Set up a different power saving scheme that doesn't include hibernation
or
sleep. My mobo has never gotten Sleep right. 'Could be the KVM switch


You can easily turn off UAC. Especially at first you might want to, if
you
are installing a lot of software from CD. Once everything is set up on a
machine you might turn it back on as it is designed to keep malware at
bay.

<> This is beyond a joke, I can't even copy files to my pen drive, without
changing permissions. When I changed permissions to allow everyone full
control Windows wouldn't let me move files to a subfolder!
I really cannot waste any more time on this.

No. An update will probably not fix this issue. It could be caused by a
virus scanner or some 3rd party app you've installed. Or , if you have
done
an upgrade, a misconfiguration of some app that was present when XP was
the
OS.



You just haven't learned what's going on. Vista is using the more secure
method of networking by default i.e. one must have an account to network
with your computer. Check the various Networking features which can be
accesed through the Control Panel. You can adjust the Password Protected
networking feature.

<> I don't want to learn what's going on. I should not have to. If I buy a
car I don't expect to have to take an automotive engineering degree before
I
can drive it away.
The defaults should allow one to perform reasonable actions, like copying
files between folders/computers. It defeats the object when a computer
administrator doesn't have sufficient rights to perform these everyday
functions.

You can use another performace utility that comes with Vista and is found
in
Computer Management:

Start > right-click Computer > select manage > on the left-hand pane
click
on "Reliability and Performance"

<> Did that. It's showing reliability dropping on an almost daily basis,
yet
another reason to return to XP.

Did you clean install Vista (from scratch) or do an upgrade? I would
recommend trying again - doing a clean install from scratch - if the
installation you have is an upgrade install. There is a technique to
clean
install from scratch even if you only have the upgrade media:

[How to Clean Install Windows Vista with Upgrade Media]
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

Before doing so, check for and download and burn to CD-R the latest
drivers
from the manufacturer's websites. Line-up product CD, keys, codes and any
other necessary info. Make sure important data e.g. documents, music,
etc.
etc. is backed up.

<>I've wasted too much time already. If I have to format the drive to
install from scratch I'll just go back to XP.
The real killer for me is that I can't back up Vista across my network,
because it won't write the data to my XP Home computer.

Maybe when Microsoft have issued a couple of service packs I'll try again,
but right now I'm going to reformat and install XP.

'Hope it works for you.

Similar experience this end. I'm back using XP prof and enjoying it 100%
!!!!!!!!!!!!