Can't Restart - I think its the XP cd....?

[tforms1]

I am creating a new thread since the old one started to get a little
off topic.
Quick recap:
Got a computer with XP back in 2001.
Recently 40 gig harddrive died so I got a 320 gig drive.

Partitioned the 320 into a 35 gig and a 268 gig drive.
Started the install of XP...after the format it went to restart the
computer but it couldnt, so I hard shut it down.
After the install, it went to restart...did not work....after the
Security Updates, went for restart -
nothing, after SP2, restart - nothing.
I can shut down fine though, but am unable to restart.

BUT it turns out my 40 gig was still alive, so I decided to put XP back
on that.
Same result, after the format it could not restart.
After the install - no restart...

So I thought it could be:
1. Harddrive issue - probably not, since it happened with both 320 and
40 gig drives.
2. Bios issue - probably not, since it is not working with the 40 gig
either, so it can't be the "Can't support large drive" issue.
3. Power supple issue - Perhaps my power supple from 2001 cannot handle
a 320 gig drive?
But right now I only have the 40 gig and CD rom connected. So it is
probably not the power supply.
4. CD issue - I lost my cd, so I am using my friend's XP Professional
(but using my code) and his CD is an old one, which means no SP1 or SP2
on it.
While this might affect the 320 gig drive, why would it screw up the 40
gig drive?
Maybe its missing something on the cd? But it loaded up windows fine.
5. Something wrong with my hardware? Could something be dead on my
computer so it cant restart, but it can Shut down? That doesnt make
sense though.

I can't think of any other possible causes.

Any ideas?
Thanks

 

[John Holmes]

"contributed" in alt.os.windows-xp:

I am creating a new thread since the old one started to get a little
off topic.
Quick recap:
Got a computer with XP back in 2001.
Recently 40 gig harddrive died so I got a 320 gig drive.

Partitioned the 320 into a 35 gig and a 268 gig drive.
Started the install of XP...after the format it went to restart the
computer but it couldnt, so I hard shut it down.
After the install, it went to restart...did not work....after the
Security Updates, went for restart -
nothing, after SP2, restart - nothing.
I can shut down fine though, but am unable to restart.

BUT it turns out my 40 gig was still alive, so I decided to put XP back
on that.
Same result, after the format it could not restart.
After the install - no restart...

So I thought it could be:
1. Harddrive issue - probably not, since it happened with both 320 and
40 gig drives.
2. Bios issue - probably not, since it is not working with the 40 gig
either, so it can't be the "Can't support large drive" issue.
3. Power supple issue - Perhaps my power supple from 2001 cannot handle
a 320 gig drive?
But right now I only have the 40 gig and CD rom connected. So it is
probably not the power supply.
4. CD issue - I lost my cd, so I am using my friend's XP Professional
(but using my code) and his CD is an old one, which means no SP1 or SP2
on it.
While this might affect the 320 gig drive, why would it screw up the 40
gig drive?
Maybe its missing something on the cd? But it loaded up windows fine.
5. Something wrong with my hardware? Could something be dead on my
computer so it cant restart, but it can Shut down? That doesnt make
sense though.

I can't think of any other possible causes.

Any ideas?
Thanks

Why start a new thread instead of listening to Gazwad and relic in your
previous thread?

You are so fat that I hear you were arrested three times for jay-walking
when all the time you were just standing on the corner waiting for the
light to change.

 

[tforms1]

Why start a new thread instead of listening to Gazwad and relic in your

previous thread?

Reason for new thread was because half of the posts in the other thread
were people arguing with Lez.

As for the advice of:
Gazwad - he said that its a common thing and to take note of which
updates causes this.
But as I said in all of my posts, this started with the initial XP
installation, not updates, so his advice doesn't apply.

relic - suggested that I create a new bootable CD with SP2 in it, so it
would work with larger harddrives (my 320 gig).
BUT, I put my 40 gig back in, so that shouldn't be the case then.
The old XP cd I am using (without any service packs) should definitely
be up to date enough to work with the 40 gig drive.

 

[John Holmes]

"contributed" in alt.os.windows-xp:

Reason for new thread was because half of the posts in the other thread
were people arguing with Lez.

As for the advice of:
Gazwad - he said that its a common thing and to take note of which
updates causes this.
But as I said in all of my posts, this started with the initial XP
installation, not updates, so his advice doesn't apply.

relic - suggested that I create a new bootable CD with SP2 in it, so it
would work with larger harddrives (my 320 gig).
BUT, I put my 40 gig back in, so that shouldn't be the case then.
The old XP cd I am using (without any service packs) should definitely
be up to date enough to work with the 40 gig drive.

relic also suggested to set your BIOS to the default settings in your
previous thread. I bet you never did.

 

[tforms1]

relic also suggested to set your BIOS to the default settings in your

previous thread. I bet you never did.

and he took that back when I told him that I HAD xp installed
previously.
I NEVER made ANY changes to my BIOS, other than:
Changing the boot order.

He also suggested I type in the Format manually, because he thought I
failed while doing the Quick install, but that is not what happened.

I did a Full format, and it succeed, but it did not restart.

Any other ideas?

 

[tforms1]

My computer still cannot reboot.
It gets to the Windows is shutting down screen, but it just stays
there.

But if I choose Shut Down, it can shut down.

Additional information:
But if I press the Restart button on the front of my PC it will reboot.

 

[John Holmes]

"contributed" in alt.os.windows-xp:

My computer still cannot reboot.
It gets to the Windows is shutting down screen, but it just stays
there.

But if I choose Shut Down, it can shut down.

Additional information:
But if I press the Restart button on the front of my PC it will reboot.

In that case:

control panel> power options> APM tab> tick "enable APM"

 

[tforms1]

But if I choose Shut Down, it can shut down.

In that case:
control panel> power options> APM tab> tick "enable APM"

I dont have that option.
Under power options I have four tabs:
power Schemes, Advanced, Hibernate, UPS

In case you missed my prior post - I am running XP Professional, not
the Home Edition.

What does the APM do anyway?

 

[Rosco]

cried out

I dont have that option.
Under power options I have four tabs:
power Schemes, Advanced, Hibernate, UPS

In case you missed my prior post - I am running XP Professional,
not the Home Edition.

What does the APM do anyway?

APM= Advanced Power Management
Enables windows to control more functions of your powersupply, IE
complete shut down (not just ok to shut down, press any key screen),
reboots, standby, powersaving modes, WOL, etc..

 

[Damian]

cried out


APM= Advanced Power Management
Enables windows to control more functions of your powersupply, IE
complete shut down (not just ok to shut down, press any key screen),
reboots, standby, powersaving modes, WOL, etc..

His PC is probably too new for APM. It should use ACPI.

 

[Richard Urban]

Are you using bios version 1011 for your Asus A7V266E M/B?

I have the same M/B in a computer for my son. If you never upgraded the
bios, that is where I would start.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[tforms1]

Are you using bios version 1011 for your Asus A7V266E M/B?

I am not sure which version it is.
How should I check?

I have the same M/B in a computer for my son. If you never upgraded the
bios, that is where I would start.

But I am back to using my 40 gig drive (which I used previously with no
problems) and I am still not able to restart.

 

[Damian]

I am not sure which version it is.
How should I check?



But I am back to using my 40 gig drive (which I used previously with
no problems) and I am still not able to restart.

Didn't you read what relic told you? (No wonder relic dropped out, you don't
do what is suggested.)

Go back and read what relic told you about the BIOS updates, see if you
actually need them.

 

[chrisv]

Didn't you read what relic told you? (No wonder relic dropped out,
you don't do what is suggested.)

Go back and read what relic told you about the BIOS updates, see if
you actually need them.

I'll bet you that he never made the Slipstreamed CD yet.

I say cut him loose. Let him sink.

 

[tforms1]

Didn't you read what relic told you? (No wonder relic dropped out,
Didnt you READ what relic wrote? see right below:

When relic suggested I update my BIOS, I told him I ran xp with my 40
gig harddrive previously, (he didnt think I was running XP previously)
and I asked him if I should still update and he said:
quote - "My thoery is to leave well enough alone. If you were running
XP successfully
before... "

So THATS why I did not do the BIOS update.

I'll bet you that he never made the Slipstreamed CD yet.

I say cut him loose. Let him sink.

As for the Slipstream CD, the reason relic said to do that is for SP2
(large drive support):
quote - "Yes, 48-bit LBA support isn't there. Make a Slipstreamed CD! "

But that was when he was refering to my 320 gig drive, NOW I am back to
using my 40 gig drive...so why would I need a Slipstream CD?

Instead of giving critisim, why dont you read the whole thread and see
the NEW information that I post, which changes the previous answers
someone gave.

Lets look at this logically.
My computer is using all the same parts (now that I am using my 40 gig
drive again).
It ran XP Prof. fine previously....so the motherboard and bios should
be fine.
The ONLY difference between my previous installation and the one now,
is the XP CD being used.
I am using my friend's XP Professional CD, instead of my old one.
But my old one did not have SP1 on it either, it was one of the early
ones also.

 

[tforms1]

Lets look at this logically.

The ONLY difference between my previous installation and the one now,
is the XP CD being used.
I am using my friend's XP Professional CD, instead of my old one.
But my old one did not have SP1 on it either, it was one of the early
ones also.

Wait, I just realized there is another difference.
Previously my 40 gig harddrive was formatted as Fat32.
Now I have it as NTFS.

 

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM]

He claim he got it in 2001 with XP installed.

 

[Damian]

He claim he got it in 2001 with XP installed.

By 2001, all PCs should have been ACPI enabled. APM dates back to Win98
stuff.

It's probably not an APM, nor an ACPI issue anyway.