Can't fully share C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs on my notebook

[JDJ]

I'm a home user with 2 PC's constantly trying to keep them looking
alike.

Most of my applications are installed on both PC's, I like to
customize the folder icons, and I will put small notes to myself or
other related shortcuts in the

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\...

"Application Install Folders"

So I am sharing my favorites folders, my Documents folders and my

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs across the
network so I can drag and drop things I create in one machine over to
the same place on the other machine.

My Desktop runs Windows Media Center Edition 2005
My Notebook runs Windows Media Center Edition 2005

My Notebook has both a wireless and (when in my office) a hardwired
connection to the router.

I have a Workgroup set up on both machines.

Neither machine shows up under

My Network Places/Entire Network/Microsoft Windows.
Network/workgroupname

This is strange compared to prior Windows For Workgroups networks I
have had, but is not a big deal if I know what I want to connect to.

E.G.

I have shared

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

as

DT Start Programs

and

on the Notebook, as

NB Start Programs

& I can connect to

\\DesktopPCname\DT Start Programs

\\NotebookPCname\NB Start Programs

and vice versa.

HOWEVER, while I can VIEW the

\\NotebookPCname\NB Start Programs

hierarchy, I can't create files in it or its subfolders, delete files,
nor copy files to it from my Desktop machine.

I have shared the folder

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

on the notebook as NB Start Programs and checked give permission to
others to change my files.

I've tried turning the firewall off, etc. etc. etc.

I'm pretty sure this is happening regardless of whether the notebook
is hard wired or running over the wireless connection.

I don't have the problem in reverse. I can drag things into the

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

folder hierarchy from the notebook to the desktop by navigating to

\\DesktopPCname\DT Start Programs

and down to where I want to be in the tree.

 

[Chuck]

I'm a home user with 2 PC's constantly trying to keep them looking
alike.

Most of my applications are installed on both PC's, I like to
customize the folder icons, and I will put small notes to myself or
other related shortcuts in the

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\...

"Application Install Folders"

So I am sharing my favorites folders, my Documents folders and my

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs across the
network so I can drag and drop things I create in one machine over to
the same place on the other machine.

My Desktop runs Windows Media Center Edition 2005
My Notebook runs Windows Media Center Edition 2005

My Notebook has both a wireless and (when in my office) a hardwired
connection to the router.

I have a Workgroup set up on both machines.

Neither machine shows up under

My Network Places/Entire Network/Microsoft Windows.
Network/workgroupname

This is strange compared to prior Windows For Workgroups networks I
have had, but is not a big deal if I know what I want to connect to.

E.G.

I have shared

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

as

DT Start Programs

and

on the Notebook, as

NB Start Programs

& I can connect to

\\DesktopPCname\DT Start Programs

\\NotebookPCname\NB Start Programs

and vice versa.

HOWEVER, while I can VIEW the

\\NotebookPCname\NB Start Programs

hierarchy, I can't create files in it or its subfolders, delete files,
nor copy files to it from my Desktop machine.

I have shared the folder

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

on the notebook as NB Start Programs and checked give permission to
others to change my files.

I've tried turning the firewall off, etc. etc. etc.

I'm pretty sure this is happening regardless of whether the notebook
is hard wired or running over the wireless connection.

I don't have the problem in reverse. I can drag things into the

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

folder hierarchy from the notebook to the desktop by navigating to

\\DesktopPCname\DT Start Programs

and down to where I want to be in the tree.

Let's look at two problems that you have described. First, neither computers
shows up under My Network Places. Look at "browstat status", "net config
server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose
the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

Next, accessibility into the "C:\Documents and Settings" structure. Are you
running Simple, or Advanced File Sharing? If Advanced, Guest or non-Guest
authentication? Note that with Guest authentication, you'll have trouble
accessing various portions of "C:\Documents and Settings".
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest

 

[JDJ]

Thanks for trying to help me in advance.

Are you
running Simple, or Advanced File Sharing?

Simple File Sharing.

Here is ipconfig and netconfig for the notebook, have not had a chance
to download browstat or do the same with the desktop machine.

It is the notebook I can not delete/create/rename in the shared
Start / Programs hierarchy (I can see it, but that's it, from the
Desktop)

Note the computer name appears in mixed case in ipconfig and all upper
case in netconfig, is this a possible problem?
=====================================================
Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
HotShot Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type .
.. . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . .
.. : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter
Wireless Network Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix .
: Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-55-03-E5 Dhcp
Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . .
.. . : 192.168.0.103 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
255.255.255.0 IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
fe80::290:4bff:fe55:3e5%4 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.70.15.242
68.70.15.243 fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media
State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description .
.. . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-3C-76-8DTunnel adapter
Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface: Connection-specific DNS
Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo
Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-00-FB-FB-E7-CC-11-99 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
3ffe:831f:4136:e378:0:fbfb:e7cc:1199 IP Address. . . . . . . .
.. . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%6 Default Gateway . . . . . . .
.. . : :: NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : DisabledTunnel
adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface: Connection-specific DNS
Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic
Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
C0-A8-00-67 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP
Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.103%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . .
: fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

=====================================================
Server Name \\HOTSHOT
Server Comment HP ZD7000 3.4 GHz, SN#
CNF42010VP Prod# DU888AV#ABA

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NwlnkIpx (00904b5503e5)
NwlnkNb (00904b5503e5)
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{FCEC3FA6-273B-4000-A987-0958C364A11D}
(00904b5503e5)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

 

[Chuck]

Thanks for trying to help me in advance.



Simple File Sharing.

Here is ipconfig and netconfig for the notebook, have not had a chance
to download browstat or do the same with the desktop machine.

It is the notebook I can not delete/create/rename in the shared
Start / Programs hierarchy (I can see it, but that's it, from the
Desktop)

Note the computer name appears in mixed case in ipconfig and all upper
case in netconfig, is this a possible problem?
=====================================================
Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
HotShot Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type .
. . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . .
. : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter
Wireless Network Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix .
: Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-55-03-E5 Dhcp
Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . .
. . : 192.168.0.103 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
255.255.255.0 IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
fe80::290:4bff:fe55:3e5%4 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.70.15.242
68.70.15.243 fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media
State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description .
. . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-3C-76-8DTunnel adapter
Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface: Connection-specific DNS
Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo
Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-00-FB-FB-E7-CC-11-99 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
3ffe:831f:4136:e378:0:fbfb:e7cc:1199 IP Address. . . . . . . .
. . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%6 Default Gateway . . . . . . .
. . : :: NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : DisabledTunnel
adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface: Connection-specific DNS
Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic
Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
C0-A8-00-67 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP
Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.103%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . .
: fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2 fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

=====================================================
Server Name \\HOTSHOT
Server Comment HP ZD7000 3.4 GHz, SN#
CNF42010VP Prod# DU888AV#ABA

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NwlnkIpx (00904b5503e5)
NwlnkNb (00904b5503e5)
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{FCEC3FA6-273B-4000-A987-0958C364A11D}
(00904b5503e5)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

OK, that's enough. Hotshot has IPV6, IPX/SPX, and NetBEUI. Please remove each
before continuing. NetBT is enough.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html

 

[JDJ]

OK, that's enough. Hotshot has IPV6, IPX/SPX, and NetBEUI. Please remove each
before continuing. NetBT is enough.

OK Chuck, I have done some more work to help you help me.

I have run ipconfig, net config server, net config workstation &
browstat on both machines.
Notebook=HotShot
Desktop=BigBoy

Here are the dumps, and right off the bat I don't understand why
running Browstat sta on my notebook (hotshot) mentions the name of my
desktop (BigBoy)... I don't have a server per se. I think of this as a
peer to peer network.

=====================
notebook_browstat_sta.txt
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{FCEC3FA6-273B-4000-A987-0958C364A11D}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: BIGBOY
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 5
\\\\BIGBOY . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL
MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master BIGBOY
\\BIGBOY
There are 0 servers in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{FCEC3FA6-273B-4000-A987-0958C364A11D}
There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{FCEC3FA6-273B-4000-A987-0958C364A11D}

=====================
notebook_ipconfig.txt
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HotShot

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-55-03-E5

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.103

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.70.15.242

68.70.15.243



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x
Family Fast Ethernet NIC #2

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-3C-76-8D

=====================
notebook_net_config_server.txt
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Server Name \\HOTSHOT
Server Comment HP ZD7000 3.4 GHz, SN#
CNF42010VP Prod# DU888AV#ABA

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{FCEC3FA6-273B-4000-A987-0958C364A11D}
(00904b5503e5)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

=====================
notebook_net_config_workstation.txt
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Computer name \\HOTSHOT
Full Computer name HotShot
User name JJ

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{FCEC3FA6-273B-4000-A987-0958C364A11D}
(00904B5503E5)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain HOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain HOTSHOT

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

=====================
desktop_browstat_sta.txt
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Status for domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{6B9F4AE3-3879-4B15-95D5-41939F804373}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: BIGBOY
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master BIGBOY
\\BIGBOY
There are 0 servers in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{6B9F4AE3-3879-4B15-95D5-41939F804373}
There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{6B9F4AE3-3879-4B15-95D5-41939F804373}

=====================
desktop_ipconfig.txt
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BigBoy

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE
Network Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-F2-09-21-CB

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.101

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.70.15.242

68.70.15.243
=====================
desktop_net_config_server.txt
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Server Name \\BIGBOY
Server Comment HP m7260n SN# MXK54511RY, 3.0GHz
DC 830D, 1Gig 300Gig SATA

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{6B9F4AE3-3879-4B15-95D5-41939F804373}
(0015f20921cb)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.


=====================
desktop_net_config_workstation.txt
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Computer name \\BIGBOY
Full Computer name BigBoy
User name JJ

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{6B9F4AE3-3879-4B15-95D5-41939F804373}
(0015F20921CB)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain HOME
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain BIGBOY

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I want to double check I'm running simple file sharing. How/where?

Anyhow, I still have both issues.

1) Niether machine is displayed under My Network Places / Entire
Network / Microsoft Windows Network / Home. Just a nusance.

2) The Desktop machine can see
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs on the
notebook but it can't create files, delete files or rename files

Thanks again for your help

 

[JDJ]

One more thought.

My Desktop BigBoy replaced an older machine which I used to call
BigBoy too. The notebook has never changed.

Don't know if there are some registry entries anywhere on the
notebook, that somehow point to the old PC which is now defunct.

 

[JDJ]

Chuck in another thread in this group I noticed your advice:

This was not checked on my notebook. (I have a router and experiment
turning DHCP on & off due to p2p app). I have assigned my PC's hard
IP's except my Vonage VoIP modem which I should assign, because it
will loose dial tone and I have to turn DHCP back on and restart the
router to get it back.

Does this apply when you have a router?

I access the Internet OK from both PC's though general surfing is not
as fast as I would like considering I pay for 6Mb connection.

I could not find this setting in my Windows firewall.

Both machines are SP2.

 

[Chuck]

Chuck in another thread in this group I noticed your advice:


This was not checked on my notebook. (I have a router and experiment
turning DHCP on & off due to p2p app). I have assigned my PC's hard
IP's except my Vonage VoIP modem which I should assign, because it
will loose dial tone and I have to turn DHCP back on and restart the
router to get it back.

NetBT is the standard for Windows Networking. If you don't have a DNS or WINS
server, you need it for name resolution.

Does this apply when you have a router?

Windows Firewall (or an equivalent personal firewall) should be enabled on every
computer behind a router or perimeter firewall.

The service must be enabled, even if you disable the firewall itself. Disabling
the service causes problems.

I access the Internet OK from both PC's though general surfing is not
as fast as I would like considering I pay for 6Mb connection.

I could not find this setting in my Windows firewall.

Both machines are SP2.

I like to solve problems based upon methodical diagnosis, not instinct. We
probably would have gotten to the above points later, so it's OK to cover them
now.

 

[Chuck]

OK Chuck, I have done some more work to help you help me.

I have run ipconfig, net config server, net config workstation &
browstat on both machines.
Notebook=HotShot
Desktop=BigBoy

Here are the dumps, and right off the bat I don't understand why
running Browstat sta on my notebook (hotshot) mentions the name of my
desktop (BigBoy)... I don't have a server per se. I think of this as a
peer to peer network.

A server is any computer that can share data. All Windows computers will run as
servers, even though they don't necessarily run a server OS.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/simple-network-definition.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/simple-network-definition.html

The browser lets BigBoy and HotShot see each other in My Network Places. The
browser displays servers.

Both computers are running NetBT. If the WF / ICS service is not running on
either, you will still have problems like yours.

Both computers are running the server service ("net view server" verifies this).
Both computers are NOT hidden.

Check anonymous access.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html

And start the WF / ICS service.

I want to double check I'm running simple file sharing. How/where? <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Simple>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Simple


Anyhow, I still have both issues.

1) Niether machine is displayed under My Network Places / Entire
Network / Microsoft Windows Network / Home. Just a nusance.

See above recommendations.

2) The Desktop machine can see
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs on the
notebook but it can't create files, delete files or rename files

If you're using Guest authentication - Simple File Sharing will use Guest (no
option); Advanced File Sharing MAY use Guest - you'll have read only access to
many shares.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest

And Simple File Sharing will cause the "Could not open key in registry, error =
5" in "browstat status" logs.

 

[JDJ]

Both computers are running NetBT. If the WF / ICS service is not running on
either, you will still have problems like yours.

NetBT?

WF / ICS is running (automatic) on both PC's.

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
restrictanonymous = 0
on both PC's

Guest Account on both PC's is OFF

What now?

Do you recommend I turn off Simple File Sharing & take steps described
in your

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html

?

I want to be secure (I'm behind a router) but once my computers are
booted, if I want to access a folder on the other PC I don't want to
have to constantly be logging on with a password.

One of your web pages mentioned possible limitations on folders under

C:\Documents and Settings\

The thing is I can access

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

on the desktop from the notebook no problem.

While I can SEE

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

on the notebook from the desktop I can't change anything even though
in sharing that folder on the notebook I have checked Allow Network
Users To Change My Files

I don't have this limitation with

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

from either machine to the other.

I'm wondering if it is a Registery Setting peculiar to the

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

folder tree.

 

[JDJ]

Grasping at straws

I note the line in both my Notebook & Desktop IPconfig

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

I mentioned to you I turn DHCP Server on or Off to favor my VoIP modem
not loosing dialtone (ON) or my P2P activity.

I guess DHCP is off in IPCOnfig because I have hard IP's assigned to
my PC's??

 

[Chuck]

either, you will still have problems like yours.

NetBT?

WF / ICS is running (automatic) on both PC's.

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
restrictanonymous = 0
on both PC's

Guest Account on both PC's is OFF

What now?

Do you recommend I turn off Simple File Sharing & take steps described
in your

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html

?

I want to be secure (I'm behind a router) but once my computers are
booted, if I want to access a folder on the other PC I don't want to
have to constantly be logging on with a password.

One of your web pages mentioned possible limitations on folders under

C:\Documents and Settings\

The thing is I can access

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

on the desktop from the notebook no problem.

While I can SEE

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

on the notebook from the desktop I can't change anything even though
in sharing that folder on the notebook I have checked Allow Network
Users To Change My Files

I don't have this limitation with

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

from either machine to the other.

I'm wondering if it is a Registery Setting peculiar to the

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs

folder tree.

The inability to access specific portions of "C:\Documents and Settings" is a
matter of file sharing. Turning Simple File Sharing OFF turns Advanced File
Sharing ON. You WILL need AFS, and non-Guest authentication, to access all
portions of "C:\Documents and Settings" successfully.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest

BUT this is not your only problem. This will have nothing to do with visibility
of the computers. That's a browser issue, covered in my Network Neighborhood
article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

The latter article discusses issues like restrictanonymous, NetBT, and
firewalls. All subjects are relevant.

You need to read the entire portions of both articles. You need to understand
how Simple and Advanced File Sharing differ, and how neither relates to securing
your computer from the Internet, or from malware on the other. You have 3
authentication possibilities:
# Simple File Sharing, with Guest properly activated.
# Advanced File Sharing, with Guest properly activated.
# Advanced File Sharing, with a non-Guest account properly activated.

After you get all of this working, you'll need to implement properly designed
Layered Security. AFTER you resolve the other issues.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html

So please read the articles, then tell me which problem you wish to work on
first. Let's do only one problem at a time, please.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html

 

[JDJ]

1) No success with "Visibility" of Computers under My Network Places /
Entire Network / Microsoft Windows Network / Home (my workgroup)
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Have spent quite a lot of time reading above but still have invisible
problem.

2) Success with C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs on the notebook

I unchecked Simple File Sharing in favor of Advanced (AKA Classic File
Sharing).

Right Click Folder / Properties / Sharing / Permissions / Everyone is
checked for Change & Read but not Full (whatever that means).

To lock things down some, on a folder by folder basis, I

Right Click Folder / Properties / Sharing / Permissions / Add /
Advanced / Find Now / Select (Name RDN) JJ in folder HotShot (notebook
computer name) / OK

I grant JJ Change & Read, and then Delete Everyone.

I now have full control of C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs on the notebook from the desktop machine.

For the time being the desktop is left Simple File Sharing.

I'm wondering if there is a C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs quirk/difference between Windows Media Center Edition
2004 on the notebook, requiring these steps versus Windows Media
Center Edition 2005 on the Desktop which allows access with simple
file sharing. I know 2005 can't join domains and 2004 can.

My remaining problem is not that big an issue, but it would be nice to
get visibility.

Also you said:

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html

 

[Chuck]

1) No success with "Visibility" of Computers under My Network Places /
Entire Network / Microsoft Windows Network / Home (my workgroup)

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Have spent quite a lot of time reading above but still have invisible
problem.

2) Success with C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs on the notebook


I unchecked Simple File Sharing in favor of Advanced (AKA Classic File
Sharing).

Right Click Folder / Properties / Sharing / Permissions / Everyone is
checked for Change & Read but not Full (whatever that means).

To lock things down some, on a folder by folder basis, I

Right Click Folder / Properties / Sharing / Permissions / Add /
Advanced / Find Now / Select (Name RDN) JJ in folder HotShot (notebook
computer name) / OK

I grant JJ Change & Read, and then Delete Everyone.

I now have full control of C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs on the notebook from the desktop machine.

For the time being the desktop is left Simple File Sharing.

I'm wondering if there is a C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs quirk/difference between Windows Media Center Edition
2004 on the notebook, requiring these steps versus Windows Media
Center Edition 2005 on the Desktop which allows access with simple
file sharing. I know 2005 can't join domains and 2004 can.

My remaining problem is not that big an issue, but it would be nice to
get visibility.

Also you said:


http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html

So what is your remaining concerns? Just invisibility in My Network Places? Or
other details?

If the problem is just visibility in My Network Places, let's look at the
services, and their visibility from each computer. Download PSTools.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html