Can't delete temp files

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Dudley Henriques

I have the following files in my temp folder.
~DF7C08.tmp
~DF372C.tmp
~DF7445.tmp

I can't delete these for love nor money. They keep coming up telling me that
they are in use by another program and that I should shut down the program
and try again.
I've checked everything I can think of to isolate these 3 files with no
luck. I have no idea what program they are associated with or even if
something in the start menu is creating them each time I boot the system.
Can someone shed some light on this and perhaps tell me what these 3 files
are and how to delete them?
Thanks much
Dudley
 
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Dudley;
Reboot to Safe Mode and try:
Reboot tapping F8 each second.
Select Safe Mode at the menu.
 
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miss-information

Dudley Henriques said:
I have the following files in my temp folder.
~DF7C08.tmp
~DF372C.tmp
~DF7445.tmp

I can't delete these for love nor money. They keep coming up telling me
that they are in use by another program and that I should shut down the
program and try again.
I've checked everything I can think of to isolate these 3 files with no
luck. I have no idea what program they are associated with or even if
something in the start menu is creating them each time I boot the system.
Can someone shed some light on this and perhaps tell me what these 3 files
are and how to delete them?
Thanks much
Dudley

Do a Google search for the free utility "Who Lock Me?"

mi
 
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Harry Ohrn

They are temporary files likely in use by some program. Do you use and p2p
programs? Or they could be connected to some spyware app. It is very hard to
tell what they belong to. Do a search for MoveOnBoot. That will get rid of
them.
 
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jmatt

Dudley said:
I have the following files in my temp folder.
~DF7C08.tmp
~DF372C.tmp
~DF7445.tmp
I would say they belong to programs running in the background ( down
next to the clock )

Right click on those & exit / close & you should be able to delete
those tmp's.

Binman
http://steveseymour.0catch.com/
http://anothermirror.tripod.com/free.htm
Seeks out the rubbish left behind by other programs. Use regularly it
will save space. It can auto run at times set by you. Cleans
automatically at boot up.
Or, ( dos'nt hurt to use both )
XP
Auto Delete Temporary Folder
http://www.tweakxp.com/display.aspx?id=2021
First go into gpedit.msc ( only available in the Pro version of XP )
Start > Run, Copy & Paste > gpedit.msc & press Enter.
Next select -> Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates >
Windows Components > Terminal Services > Temporary Folder.
Then right click "Do Not Delete Temp Folder Upon Exit"
Go to properties and hit disable.
Now next time Windows puts a temp file in that folder it will
automatically delete it when its done!
Install the Group Policy Editor in Windows XP Home
http://www.geocities.com/kilian0072002/GPEditHome.htm
 
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Richard Urban

Similar named files on my computer. I just don't worry about it as they are
generated by one of my background programs. The name changes at each boot
up. They were not there until I started using ZA about 3 years ago.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Cooter

These are either ZoneAlarm or System Mechanic files, can't remember which.
One is written each time you boot the computer. However, I can always delete
all but the most recent one, but the catch is, the most recent one is
usually on top of the listing, so highlighting the entire list and hitting
Delete will fail because the first one it encounters is locked. Try
highlighting all but the most recent one. Anyhow, they appear to be
harmless.
 
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Dudley Henriques

Thanks Cooter. I don't have Zone Alarm on the computer, but I do have just
downloaded and installed the newest version of my AntiVirus program (CA
AntiVirus from Computer Associates). These files just might be part of their
new engine. I've written them a note asking about this. Perhaps this is the
answer.
I have noticed that I show details, I can select and delete all but those
created (today), which would indicate since the AV seems to be the only
program running in the background, that they are associated.
If this thinking jives with you, let me know will you please?
Thanks
Dudley
 
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Cooter

You're probably right about the AV program. I've never used CA, so that's
not the one creating the files on my machine. I could also be mistaken about
the creator being ZA or S/M, but it is one of the utility-type programs that
runs at startup. Some time back, probably a year or more, I went through the
process of stopping each start-up program and was able to stop those ~DF*
files, but I remember needing the utility and decided the temp files didn't
create a problem.
 
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antioch

Hello Dudley
That is the C:\Windows\Temp sorted.
What do you get when you go in the other temp? - the one that Disk Cleanup
is supposed to clear but for lots of users for some reason does not.
Do - Start/Run/type in box %temp% and see what you have there.
If all is OK probably 1 - could be two. Or a few hundred or a thousand.
Where a manual fix sorts out this temp business, I would not bother putting
yet another bit of software on my system - its not needed is it?
Rgds
Antioch
 
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jmatt

Dudley Henriques wrote:
I've written them a note asking about this. Perhaps this is the answer.

Just for the purpose of the exercise, shut it down, right click on it
down next to the clock & if you can do your deletions, you know which
program they belong to.

Reboot & they will be recreated with new numbers.

Autostart Viewer
http://www.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=asviewer
Win95/98/ME/NT/2K/XP
When you start Windows, dozens of programs are already running - many
of them invisible and running in the background. What are these
programs? Why are they running? Are they safe to run, or are any of
them trojans?
Autostart Viewer allows you to see every autostart on your system, all
on the one screen. In addition, it gives you complete control over the
autostart references, and allows you to modify or delete them at will.
 
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jmatt

Dudley Henriques wrote:

To demonstrate how computers have undeleteable tmp's ( because of
programs running in the background ) here are screenshots on mine after
running EasyCleaner.
If I stopped those programs running, they would all be deleteable.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3466/easycleanerscanresultskd5.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1068/easycleanerscanresults1xb4.jpg

EasyCleaner Windows 95/98/ME/NT 3.51 (or newer) /2000/XP
http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts
http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/ecleane.htm
Use the Updates button, before using. Checks you have the latest
version & blacklist.
1: Click on Unnecessary.
I tick > Normal types, Extra types & Temp directories.
If you try & remove a file that is being used, it will after about a 15
second delay, inform you so & will not delete.
2: Now click on Registry & run.
Don't use Duplicate files unless you really know what your'e doing.
 
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antioch

If you must clip/contextualise etc please do it properly - Dudley did not
write what appears below 'Dudley Henriques wrote'. You did.
I am sure those links are very good but in my opinion are an additional and
unnecessary burden to ones computer.
Antioch
 
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Dudley Henriques

Hi Antioch;
Hope all's well with you and yours.
I checked the Windows/ temp folder. I think that's the one you are referring
to?? Nothing unusual there.
I'm pretty sure these files in the local settings/temp folder are being
created by the AV program each time I boot or reboot. I have discovered that
even on the same day, I can delete the ones time stamped on any file except
the latest set of them created on the last reboot or boot. Whatever program
is creating them allows this, but apparently doesn't clean up the temp
folder when shutting down. This can be a real PIA, as I now have to remember
to deal with the temp folder.
Normally when shutting down for the day, I usually go into IE options and
delete the TIF and off line content, then compress the OE files manually.
This bypasses the Temp folder.
I guess I should just use My Computer and clean up the C drive selecting
there. That catches the Temp folder I believe, and doing that should delete
all but the last set of those files created.
You concur??
Dudley
 
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Dudley Henriques

Thanks much


Richard Urban said:
Similar named files on my computer. I just don't worry about it as they
are generated by one of my background programs. The name changes at each
boot up. They were not there until I started using ZA about 3 years ago.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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jmatt

antioch said:
If you must clip/contextualise etc please do it properly - Dudley did not
write what appears below 'Dudley Henriques wrote'. You did.

Instead of lecturing, stick to your possible methods of helping, always
more than one way of looking at a problem, here is the full Dudley
Henriques quote.
Thanks Cooter. I don't have Zone Alarm on the computer, but I do have
just
downloaded and installed the newest version of my AntiVirus program (CA
AntiVirus from Computer Associates). These files just might be part of
their
new engine. I've written them a note asking about this. Perhaps this is
the
answer.
I have noticed that I show details, I can select and delete all but
those
created (today), which would indicate since the AV seems to be the only
program running in the background, that they are associated.
If this thinking jives with you, let me know will you please?
Thanks
Dudley

With EasyCleaner, like I said a demo, up to Dudley, if he has an
overloaded comp he will be able to make his own decision.
 
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antioch

Reply intertwined etc

Dudley Henriques said:
Hi Antioch;
Hope all's well with you and yours.

Yes thank you - and with you too :)
I checked the Windows/ temp folder. I think that's the one you are
referring to?? Nothing unusual there.

I am still not certain we are in the same 'ball park' as you would put it
your side of the small pond.
I hope you can confirm the below.
I assumed that what you refer to above is the one to which you were
referring in your original post - or have I got that wrong? -
i.e. My Comp/C:/Windows/Temp - this holds the files similar to those you
used as an example in you original post.
Mine has WGA when it kicks in on startup plus ZA files - so you will prob.
have your Firewall putting files in that temp. They should auto delete
themselves in a 7 day period - watch the dates to make sure. Mine do act
properly in this Temp.
I'm pretty sure these files in the local settings/temp folder

Do you now mean those via the Start/Run/ type in %temp% that I suggested you
try - these take you to one of the temp folders also accessed from C:\Docs &
Settings/Dudley?/
Application data/Local Settings/Temp. This folder should show the same
entries/contents as doing the Start/Run method.
THIS IS the temp that I mentioned which can contain thousands of folders and
files and are not cleared by Disk Cleanup OR when you shut down.
There is another temp in Default User - ignore - it should be empty.
This is NOT the same as the C:Windows/Temp.
are being created by the AV program each time I boot or reboot. I have
discovered that even on the same day, I can delete the ones time stamped
on any file except the latest set of them created on the last reboot or
boot. Whatever program is creating them allows this, but apparently
doesn't clean up the temp folder when shutting down. This can be a real
PIA, as I now have to remember to deal with the temp folder.

I am a bit lost re the above para until I get some confirmation that we are
both talking about the same 2 Temps.
Normally when shutting down for the day, I usually go into IE options and
delete the TIF and off line content, then compress the OE files manually.
This bypasses the Temp folder.

TIF and temp are different in this issue - I also clear all TIF and cookies
every night. Its good house-keeping. As far as I am aware, that operation
has nothing to do with these Temps.
I guess I should just use My Computer and clean up the C drive selecting
there.

Do you mean Disk Cleanup.
That catches the Temp folder I believe, and doing that should delete all
but the last set of those files created.
You concur??

Yes it should, but as I have said before, for some it does not. Why it does
not has yet to be found. Some have a bug of sorts in their systems from
when their computers were first built. I have now had this problem on two
XP systems in a row in a 2 year period.
Here is a link to Ramesh's site - what should happen is explained.

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/cleantemp.htm

I have emailed him and we have discussed. I am still looking into his
response. I hope he is not reading this, but in a way I dispute to a degree
what his article says.

Also, if you pop into the windowsxp.general, look for my thread "%temp%
mystery" dated 8 Sept 2006.
I just hope I have not confused you by all this.
But these are the two main temps that we are talking about. There are a few
more but of no significance in this discussion.
Sorry - must get to bed - am doing a bit of consulting work tomorrow - if I
get time I will pop into Basics.
Take care
Rgds
Antioch
 
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antioch

Agreed - there is always more than one way to look at a problem.
Your problem is that you did not quote any reply etc from Dudley - when
trying to follow threads this does not help - one has to go back to try and
find the quote you apportioned. Just wastes time and causes confusion.
If you would like some links to how to post etc, let me know
Rgds and good-night
Antioch
 

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