Canon Pixma iP3000 questions...

[Mapanari]

Of course and depending what you use it could clog as well.

Says the company ink cart maker shill who lurks on this group, always
attempting to warn people away from refilling their ink carts....as he
cackles with glee at the 6000% profit margin on ink carts that foolish
people buy.

 

[Mapanari]

I would buy an IP4000 over the IP6000 unless you plan on printing and
editing without a computer. The IP 4000 will produce about the same
photo prints and substantially better business documents. Other than
the ability to do some minor editing without a computer there is no
other reason I can think of to get one.

Watch the sales at Fry's. About once a month they have the IP4000 $150
list with an instant store rebate of $30 and a Canon rebate of $20.00
netting the printer at $100.00. That is the best price I have seen them
for.

Actually, consumer reports lists the 6000 way below the 4000.

I would have thought they used simular or same technology, just more bells
and whistles to justify higher price and larger model number, but I guess
not.
There is a clear diference in quality and speed according to them.

Interestingly enough, they didn't rate the iP3000, which is exactly the
same as the 4000 minus one black txt printing cart.

Frys had the iP4000 about a week ago for $100 after rebates.

I paid $59 for my iP3000 delivered to my door and no filthy sales tax to
help support illegal alien's health care and social security payments.

I figure the extra black cart is not worth $40 more.

 

[measekite]

@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:




Actually, consumer reports lists the 6000 way below the 4000.

I would have thought they used simular or same technology, just more bells
and whistles to justify higher price and larger model number, but I guess
not.
There is a clear diference in quality and speed according to them.

Interestingly enough, they didn't rate the iP3000, which is exactly the
same as the 4000 minus one black txt printing cart.

And for some reason it is somewhat slower.

Frys had the iP4000 about a week ago for $100 after rebates.

I paid $59 for my iP3000 delivered to my door and no filthy sales tax to
help support illegal alien's health care and social security payments.

I figure the extra black cart is not worth $40 more.

But it is. The photo has more contrast and richer blacks and you do not
have to mix the colors to get black. The prints are much sharper and it
is worth $40.00 more.; some of which you will make up on the ink savings.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

I hope you don't buy any fruit that's picked by, never use a hotel whose
rooms are cleaned by, or have a home that's cleaned by, never use a
convenience store that's manned by, or have children who are cared by,
and never buy any "made in the USA" clothing that's sewn together by one
of those "illegal aliens", and of course, like yourself, we all hope
you'll drop long before your social security clicks in.

Art

 

[Mapanari]

@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:

But it is. The photo has more contrast and richer blacks and you do not
have to mix the colors to get black. The prints are much sharper and it
is worth $40.00 more.; some of which you will make up on the ink savings.

I printed out a test photo that had plenty of black in it, and it was a
better photo than I could get from the photolab.

I'm happy,

And I don't care about ink, because one reason I bought this was becuase of
the ease of refilling the carts.
I have 80ml of each color and 120ml of black just sitting here waiting for my
first refill. I think it all cost me about $19.00. I can refill about 4
times, 6 on the black.

 

[Mapanari]

I hope you don't buy any fruit that's picked by, never use a hotel whose
rooms are cleaned by, or have a home that's cleaned by, never use a
convenience store that's manned by, or have children who are cared by,
and never buy any "made in the USA" clothing that's sewn together by one
of those "illegal aliens", and of course, like yourself, we all hope
you'll drop long before your social security clicks in.

Art

I wouldn't mind paying 5% more on those goods and items becuase it would
mean that young black americans and poor white real americans would get
those jobs.

Every illegal aliens lowers wages, benefits and screws the inner city poor
badly.
They also cost us more than they give to the economy, with over 50% of all
federal prisoners being illegal aliens, and in my city, over 60% of all the
school children in our public schools are illegals, who don't pay taxes and
who send a lot of their money home, which doesn't re-circulate in our
economy.

See, son, it's supply and demand. The dirty companies and lobbyists for
big business keep paying off our congreesmen and presidents to keep the
borders open, and that keeps wages low and benefits non-existent and takes
the power away from the people and the worker and puts it into the hands of
the industrialists and politicians.

And when you need to get medical care, schools, social security payouts and
disablility, welfare and food stamps for illegals, why, you just raise
taxes on the very people you're ****ing up the ass, the Ameican middle and
poor classes!

What a winning statagy! We, the people, are paying high taxes to lower our
wages and make our retirments into a cat-food-eating daily existence.

 

[measekite]

@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:





I printed out a test photo that had plenty of black in it, and it was a
better photo than I could get from the photolab.

I'm happy,

And I don't care about ink, because one reason I bought this was becuase of
the ease of refilling the carts.
I have 80ml of each color and 120ml of black just sitting here waiting for my
first refill. I think it all cost me about $19.00. I can refill about 4
times, 6 on the black.

What is the BRAND and where did you get it?

 

[Daniel Prince]

Every illegal aliens lowers wages, benefits and screws the inner city poor
badly.

They also tend to cause rents to go up.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

I live in a country that encourages immigration, and recognizes their
value. We have few illegals because we welcome most. Our economy is
clearly much better than yours, our prisons aren't full of illegal
aliens because we don't criminalize them in the same manner you do.

So what if the people get educated in the US. So what if they send some
money back to their families in developing countries. It's a type of
"foreign aid" which provides benefits to both the US and to the counties
the people come from.

And besides that, 5% wouldn't be enough to make the difference in labor
costs because on each level their is a mark up, so even if at
manufacturing or whathaveyou, the difference was 5% (and it's much more)
by the time it got to the retail level it would be more like 25-35% (ask
Walmart).

I find the "big talkers" are rarely the big walkers. You claim you'd
pay 5% more, but I bet you look for the lower priced stores to buy your
goods. There are goods made in the USA in non-sweatshop, by non-illegal
businesses, so shop for your stuff there, if you are opposed. You'll
pay 25-50% more, but you'll keep your integrity. Personally, I don't
agree with either your logic or your sentiment, but if you wish to
follow through then live it.

Also, I do not believe your statistics on federal prisons is accurate
from my recall. The majority of federal prison population is made up of
US citizens who are minorities.

In general, countries who have a large illegal immigrant population have
problems filling certain types of jobs that citizens simply do not want,
at any pay (within reason). I say good for the new immigrants who are
willing to work hard to improve the lot of themselves and their families.

Art

 

[Jochen Schmid]

I use my ip4000 about at same rate..3-4 times per week. No problems so far,
while at my old i550 there were also no problems regarding clogging, only
head died after year and a half...

I am thinking about replacing my HP 990 with a Canon iP4000.
Did you ever print duplex text pages? I have heard that for duplex
printing the printer uses the "photo" black ink while for single side
printing it uses the pigmented black ink.

Do you see a considerable difference in quality between both black
inks while printing text?

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[Jochen Schmid]

I use my ip4000 about at same rate..3-4 times per week. No problems so far,
while at my old i550 there were also no problems regarding clogging, only
head died after year and a half...

It died after that short period? What was the problem?

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[Jochen Schmid]

did you ever hear of environment polluting? Doing this you waste precious
energy and thus pollute the environment... ;-)

True but not serious. Power consumption is only 0.65W (standby).

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[Jochen Schmid]

Interestingly enough, they didn't rate the iP3000, which is exactly the
same as the 4000 minus one black txt printing cart.

And minus the parallel interface.

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[measekite]

I am thinking about replacing my HP 990 with a Canon iP4000.

I have both an HP990 and a Canon IP4000 side by side. With the Canon if
you choose plain paper the printer will use the pigmented cart.

Did you ever print duplex text pages? I have heard that for duplex
printing the printer uses the "photo" black ink while for single side
printing it uses the pigmented black ink.

Do you see a considerable difference in quality between both black
inks while printing text?

The difference between the HP990 and the Canon IP4000 as far as ink goes
when printing on plain paper is as follows:

The HP draft mode looks almost the same quality as the Canon Standard
Mode.
The Canon Standard mode is almost as fast as the HP draft mode.
The Canon ink is much more smear resistant when using a highlighter.
The Canon does a better job on photos and is faster.
I do not use the dye based black when printing test because I choose
plain paper. The paper choice is what controls which black is used.

 

[Dan G]

I just replaced a 990 with a IP4000. Also have a IP3000. Both are much
quicker printers whether duplexing or not. I see no visible difference on
the 4000 between single and 2-sided prints of text and graphics. The 4000 is
a bit better quality using normal resolution than the 3000 is.

 

[measekite]

I just replaced a 990 with a IP4000. Also have a IP3000. Both are much
quicker printers whether duplexing or not. I see no visible difference on
the 4000 between single and 2-sided prints of text and graphics.

The 4000 is
a bit better quality using normal resolution than the 3000 is.

With text that seems strange. When using plain paper setting they both
use the same Pigmented Black Cart. Maybe the print head is different.

 

[Bill]

It died after that short period? What was the problem?

While they print nice photos, the Canon i-series printers have
printheads that are not permanent and do not last very long. They seem
to suffer from thermal damage and a group of nozzles will just quit
working.

I had a Canon i850 and its printhead failed after less than 5,000 pages
and 16 months. A friend with the i550 suffered the same loss after about
14 months and some 2,500 pages.

It's not at all uncommon...and it makes me wonder how many people have
put through 10,000-20,000+ pages without issues.

 

[Mapanari]

measekite <[email protected]>
wrote

What is the BRAND and where did you get it?

www.printerinkwarehouse.com

Used to be www.ink-refill-ink.com

I've used them for about 4 years now.

I order, and bam! 3 days later "Ding dong" Rrrrrum ruuuu...screach...." and
the UPS truck is already gone and there is a big envelope in my box.

 

[Mapanari]

And minus the parallel interface.

Yup....for those Russians in Siberia who still use PP and Windows 95a.

 

[measekite]

measekite <[email protected]>
wrote





www.printerinkwarehouse.com

It appears you are not able to answer the question as to the BRAND
because (like many other vendors who think compatible is a brand when it
is not even a label) the vendor does not publisize what you are buying.
All you know is that you bought something and maybe (nobody knows for
sure) the next batch you buy may be from some other source.