Building your own pc - OEM software?

[Alias]

Do you resell OEM software? No, then you are not an OEM system builder so
there is nothing for you to agree to other than the EULA.

Um, please see the subject of the thread. Carey changed the subject and
you jumped on it.

The EULA is
irrelevant to this discussion.

No, it isn't.

We are talking about an agreement between OEM
system builders and Microsoft.

No, we're not.

Once the software is in the hands of the end
user (you), the end user is doing nothing wrong by installing and using it.

No shit.

As far as Walmart I can think of several likely scenarios. The web site is
in error and the product isn't available. Maybe someone can order it and see
what happens. The buyer for Walmart is not a computer specialist and doesn't
realise the rules have changed. Or most likely as it seems to be a web only
deal: They are getting rid of old stock. Walmart obviously buys in very
large quantities to support their business model. It wouldn't surprise me to
find out they have tens of thousands of old stock on hand.

Kerry

You obviously don't know what you're talking about regarding Walmart and
are just guessing.

Alias

 

[Kerry Brown]

Um, please see the subject of the thread. Carey changed the subject
and you jumped on it.

Actually I was replying to Grok to clear up a misconception regarding the
current English language OEM agreement.

No, it isn't.


No, we're not.

Grok and I were. Possibly we were off topic and should have started a new
thread.

No shit.


You obviously don't know what you're talking about regarding Walmart
and are just guessing.

We are all guessing about Walmart. I was postulating some scenarios and
stipulated that they were just that "likely scenarios". You are arguing with
someone (me) who mostly agrees with you. Once OEM software gets in the hands
of the end user the EULA applies. The OEM agreement has nothing to do with
the end user directly. The new OEM agreement if enforced will actually make
the rules and restrictions regarding OEM software clearer to an end user who
ends up with OEM software.

Kerry

 

[Nada Tapu]

All retail computer stores sell single generic XP OEMs with NO hardware
and some of them even sell them in Spanish, German and English. Please
note that this is an international newsgroup and adjust your posts as
necessary to reflect the differences between a backwards country such as
the USA and civilized countries.

How are they packaged in Spain? Do you just get the shrink-wrap
plastic over the CD and booklet or do you get the system builder
envelope too?

NT

 

[--Alias--]

How are they packaged in Spain? Do you just get the shrink-wrap
plastic over the CD and booklet or do you get the system builder
envelope too?

NT

The former, no envelop, although I haven't bought one lately. I plan to
buy one next week and we'll see if there's an envelop.

Alias

 

[Dan]

How are they packaged in Spain? Do you just get the shrink-wrap
plastic over the CD and booklet or do you get the system builder
envelope too?

NT

So what is your idea of a so-called "civilized" country?

 

[--Alias--]

So what is your idea of a so-called "civilized" country?

Let's see, I can tell you what isn't civilized:

The Death Penalty

Draconian prisons

Spying on its citizens without a warrant.

Going to war with a country that didn't do anything and subsequently
occupying and murdering more than 200,000 of its citizens.

Stealing a presidential election.

Need I go on?

Alias

 

[Dan]

Let's see, I can tell you what isn't civilized:

The Death Penalty

Draconian prisons

Spying on its citizens without a warrant.

Going to war with a country that didn't do anything and subsequently
occupying and murdering more than 200,000 of its citizens.

Stealing a presidential election.

Need I go on?

Alias

Thanks for your opinion.

 

[Dan]

Let's see, I can tell you what isn't civilized:

The Death Penalty

Draconian prisons

Spying on its citizens without a warrant.

Going to war with a country that didn't do anything and subsequently
occupying and murdering more than 200,000 of its citizens.

Stealing a presidential election.

Need I go on?

Alias

Alias, you were talking about your posts being deleted before or maybe
it was Kurt's posts but I am trying to reach Imhotep in the homeusers
Microsoft security newsgroup and my posts keep being deleted. I want to
talk to him about security issues. Can you please tell him that I want
him to email me at (e-mail address removed) -- just remove the no spam
-- thank you very much and I am greatly in your debt if you do this and
he is willing to email me.