Browsers - whats your favourite?

A

Aaron

MyIE2 /IE by far.

Honorable mention to Avant /IE

I like the looks of FireFox, but I would never finish my morning
browsing on time using it. I hope the FireFox team give most of the
powerful functionality and flexibility of MyIE2 to Firefox on the
first final release.

The flexibility already exists though extensions and some configuring
with about:config. Admittedly it's somewhat hard to get at. In any case,
if you are hoping Firefox out of the box will have a feature set similar
to Myie2, you can stop now since this will never happen. If you are
familar at all with the philisophy of Firefox, you will know that the
idea is to keep things slim, and allow the user to download extensions
for only needed features.

At best, the 1.0 version will have some extensions bundled together which
you can choose to install at the same time you install Firefox.

That said, IE is not standing still. The next update will have many
cool features such as an integrated popup blocker.

Cool feature? Come on almost every browser, heck even every browser shell
has that. Nowdays it's a necessity not a "cool feature".
Bob

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Aaron (my email is not munged!)
 
B

Bob Adkins

I don't actually have that problem as I generally only have a max of
around 6-7 windows open at any one time, and never use the "Groups" (never


My largest group in MyIE2 has only 6 tabs, but I have 8 different groups
that I visit daily.
have to be honest). In saying that, you may want to consider asking about it
over at the Avant forums.

I've been politely asking (OK, begging) for that feature for many months.

Bob

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Bob Adkins

The flexibility already exists though extensions and some configuring
with about:config. Admittedly it's somewhat hard to get at. In any case,
if you are hoping Firefox out of the box will have a feature set similar
to Myie2, you can stop now since this will never happen. If you are
familar at all with the philisophy of Firefox, you will know that the
idea is to keep things slim, and allow the user to download extensions
for only needed features.

At best, the 1.0 version will have some extensions bundled together which
you can choose to install at the same time you install Firefox.



Cool feature? Come on almost every browser, heck even every browser shell
has that. Nowdays it's a necessity not a "cool feature".

Look Aaron, it's the engine that's bulky, not the features.

For example, MyIE2 adds a ton of features to IE, and the download is only
750kb.

Once Firefox goes gold, there will probably be a nice selection of
full-featured extension packs that will all be under 1mb. And that will suit
me fine, because I don't care to look them up piecemeal. It reminds me too
much of a re-install of the original Windows 2K and all the updates you had
to do.

Bob

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R

Rhexis

What's your favourite browser and why?

Vanilla Mozilla. Firefox is still too much of a moving target for me.
I use Advant 'cos of its unser
friendly interface and regular upgrades.

And its cool virus/exploit engine is great too, am I right?
 
D

donutbandit

Any version of Netscape post-v4.7.8 (although AOL had been been
bundling
WinAmp in so early as 4.7.5, if memory serves).

My question was "what is the AOL crap" that it was claimed is bundled to
Netscape? I've looked for it, and I don't see any.
 
A

Anonymous

Security enhancements, plugin/add-on manager and as you mentioned, a pop-up
blocker (all this for XP only, I believe).

Am I missing something?

I recall reading somewhere a while ago that Microsoft weren't going
to make any further changes to IE besides security patches. They
believe it's basically gone as far as it can go & the next major
version of IE will be for the next-generation of Windows operating
system (I suppose comparable to the leap from Windows 3.1 to '95 or
from '95 to XP).

-=-
 
J

jimpgh2002

Vanilla Mozilla. Firefox is still too much of a moving target for me.


And its cool virus/exploit engine is great too, am I right?

What virus/exploit are you speaking about?
 
K

Kruppt

What's your favourite browser and why? I use Advant 'cos of its unser
friendly interface and regular upgrades.

KR's

K-Meleon 0.8.2
Why?, because it is fast, small, and simple, and can be configured to one's
liking. I still have FireFox installed and have been using it since Phoenix
3, but tried K-Meleon 6 months ago and have been using it as my default
browser since.

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/
http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/list.php?f=1
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=14285

Kruppt
 
F

Fran

At the moment Mozilla 1.6 with the MultiZilla extension (works better
than Avant as you can save more than one tab session & reopen with
either the last one used, or select previous sessions from a drop-
down menu). Roboform works with it too. There are a also lot of add-

Sounds a lot like Groups feature that MyIE2 has, and Avant probably as well
 
A

A.A. Fussy

P said:
What's your favourite browser and why? I use Advant 'cos of its unser
friendly interface and regular upgrades.

KR's

Babya Discover-tabbed brwsing too
 
A

Aaron

Look Aaron, it's the engine that's bulky, not the features.

Well, ever looked at our bulky MSIE is? Without it, myie2 is pretty
useless.
For example, MyIE2 adds a ton of features to IE, and the download is
only 750kb.

But surely you know that Myie2 works only because you have MSIE
installed? Remeber? This is where the difference between being just an IE
shell addon and a full browser which I always stress comes in.

If Myie2 had to run by itself it would wear in more than just 750 kb.

Once Firefox goes gold, there will probably be a nice selection of
full-featured extension packs that will all be under 1mb. And that
will suit me fine, because I don't care to look them up piecemeal.

Actually i doubt that the extensions will add up to 1mb unless you use a
lot of them. If you look at the extensions most of them are under 10kb.
It's the core features and the browsing engine of Firefox that take up
the bulk of the download. Myie2 doesn't have this problem because it is
only a browser shell of course.
It
reminds me too much of a re-install of the original Windows 2K and all
the updates you had to do.

When upgrading, extensions are problematic since some of them break when
you upgrade. A better extension manager will be out before 1.0 to solve
this problem, by marking extensions that are useable with each version.
Bob

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M

My Name

Good! I was afraid it was because of the Real Player
plug-in. :)

Bob

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Excuse me for jumping in here.

I don't like a browser with multiple directory structures.
Follow the path structure of the original install on your
removable media. You could create shortcuts to the paths on the
puters you want to install on. Then drop folders & files on the
shortcuts. Should send them to the proper places on the other
puters.

Tell ya one thing I don't like about K-M
It's inability to retain copied text from the clipboard, and one
has to go back and copy & paste again, after opening a new
window. Made me so nuts, so I went back to Firefox again.
Haven't found a browser I like yet. One thing I don't like about
Moz in general is its' directory structure. Then, you need to
monitor the install. I use Regshot for this. They all seem to
miss some desireable assets that another icludes. Heck I've even
taken to using IE shells. The best AFAIC is MyIe. Opera, don't
like the bookmarking operation. OffByOne, too limited, but
useful for by-passing a lot of crap. Read, not rendering pages
as intended.
 
B

Bob Adkins

On 22 Feb 2004 22:18:37 +0800, Aaron

But surely you know that Myie2 works only because you have MSIE
installed? Remeber? This is where the difference between being just an IE
shell addon and a full browser which I always stress comes in.

NO! Say it ain't so! Hehehe
If Myie2 had to run by itself it would wear in more than just 750 kb.

I already know that.

And the Firefox extensions are small too. If they stood alone, they would
be, er, Firefox. If my aunt had cajones, she would be my uncle.
Actually i doubt that the extensions will add up to 1mb unless you use a
lot of them. If you look at the extensions most of them are under 10kb.
It's the core features and the browsing engine of Firefox that take up
the bulk of the download. Myie2 doesn't have this problem because it is
only a browser shell of course.

When upgrading, extensions are problematic since some of them break when
you upgrade. A better extension manager will be out before 1.0 to solve
this problem, by marking extensions that are useable with each version.

And the bloat begins. Firefox is only a baby and it's already 25% the size
of IE. Since it's open source, I'm sure there will always be "light"
versions available from rebellious bloat fighters (such as K-Meleon does for
Mozilla).


I still say functionality and features add little bloat compared to the
browser engine.


Bob

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B

Bob Adkins

Tell ya one thing I don't like about K-M
It's inability to retain copied text from the clipboard, and one

Tried it, didn't like it too much myself.

Bob

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J

jimpgh2002

Install Spybot and or adaware and you will find out, Very Quickly!!!
I use both of those regularly & they haven't found a thing regarding
Avant.
Or much of anything, actually, since I'm also running SpywareGuard &
StartUpMonitor as well as a hardware fiewall, a software firewall &
anti-virus.
And yes, I keep them all up to date.
 

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