Booting: How can I tell where the OS hangs up?

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Guest

I put a new motherboard into a computer and now Windows XP won't boot
anymore. I tried booting it in Safe Mode and with Boot Logging, to no effect.
The thing is, Boot Logging is not generating a NTBTLOG.TXT file, so I can't
tell where in particular the OS is hanging up. Is there any technique beyond
that for checking the computer step by step during boot?

In Windows 98 I could F8 and pick 'Step-by-Step confirmation' as an option.
Don't know how to do such a thing in Windows XP.

(Erase and reload is not an option right now)
 
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BillW50

Spamhugger said:
I put a new motherboard into a computer and now Windows XP won't boot
anymore. I tried booting it in Safe Mode and with Boot Logging, to no
effect. The thing is, Boot Logging is not generating a NTBTLOG.TXT
file, so I can't tell where in particular the OS is hanging up. Is
there any technique beyond that for checking the computer step by
step during boot?

In Windows 98 I could F8 and pick 'Step-by-Step confirmation' as an
option. Don't know how to do such a thing in Windows XP.

(Erase and reload is not an option right now)

Is this a different motherboard with a different chipset? If so, you
can't do it that way (or I never got it to work anyway). And the only
way around it is to do a fresh reinstall of the OS. That way the correct
drivers for the right chipsets gets installed. You say erase and reload
isn't an option. But what are you going to do? There is no way around it
right now.
 
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Rock

Spamhugger said:
I put a new motherboard into a computer and now Windows XP won't boot
anymore. I tried booting it in Safe Mode and with Boot Logging, to no
effect.
The thing is, Boot Logging is not generating a NTBTLOG.TXT file, so I
can't
tell where in particular the OS is hanging up. Is there any technique
beyond
that for checking the computer step by step during boot?

In Windows 98 I could F8 and pick 'Step-by-Step confirmation' as an
option.
Don't know how to do such a thing in Windows XP.

(Erase and reload is not an option right now)

When replacing a motherboard, unless it's the exact same kind, you need to
do at the least a repair install. In some cases it requires a clean
install.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
 
M

mikeyhsd

probably the least you can try is a repair install.

worse case is a complete NEW install.



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I put a new motherboard into a computer and now Windows XP won't boot
anymore. I tried booting it in Safe Mode and with Boot Logging, to no effect.
The thing is, Boot Logging is not generating a NTBTLOG.TXT file, so I can't
tell where in particular the OS is hanging up. Is there any technique beyond
that for checking the computer step by step during boot?

In Windows 98 I could F8 and pick 'Step-by-Step confirmation' as an option.
Don't know how to do such a thing in Windows XP.

(Erase and reload is not an option right now)
 
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Bruce Chambers

Spamhugger said:
I put a new motherboard into a computer and now Windows XP won't boot
anymore. I tried booting it in Safe Mode and with Boot Logging, to no
effect.
The thing is, Boot Logging is not generating a NTBTLOG.TXT file, so I
can't
tell where in particular the OS is hanging up. Is there any technique
beyond
that for checking the computer step by step during boot?

In Windows 98 I could F8 and pick 'Step-by-Step confirmation' as an
option.
Don't know how to do such a thing in Windows XP.

(Erase and reload is not an option right now)



Normally, and assuming a retail license, or an unbranded, generic OEM
license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a
specific chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard -
check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually
identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers,
same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was
originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place
upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing
issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've
pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't
like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod
style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just
isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as
"promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware
configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the
specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire
WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume
Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days
since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be
able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you
might have to make a 5 minute phone call.


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Bruce Chambers

Not so. In most cases, a simple repair installtion is sufficient.




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Bruce Chambers

BillW50 said:
Thanks for the correction Bruce! :)


You're welcome.

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