Beta to Final

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Guest

Is there going to be any kind of file system change between Beta (2) and
Final, or will the transition from the Beta version to the Final version be
made as simple as possible. I am considering downloading the Beta to my
computer to see how it's working, but if it will not upgrade from the Beta
version to the Final version, I don't think I want to do that.
 
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Jeff Warren

In the past it is usually possible but not recommended. You would have to
wait to upgrade to RC1 and not install any build in between. Then, go from
RC1 to RTM. If this is a production system (and it sounds like it is) I
wouldn't recommend Vista at all. If you are not willing to play a little
bit and format your hard disk a few times, I think I would stay away from
Beta 2.

Jeff
 
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Zack Whittaker

Yeh, I'd agree actually. I doubt very much whether you'll be able to upgrade
from the last beta build to the RTM copy. However, we'll have to see what's
to come :blush:)

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Lang Murphy

Upgrades are to be avoided, period. Back it up, slick it via installing new
OS "clean", restore from backup, have at it. Only install Vista Beta builds,
or any Beta build for that matter, on a "SkunkWerks" computer that is not
your everyday bread-and-butter computer. Unless you are the adventurous
(read: reckless) type... ;-D

Lang

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Pierre Szwarc

As with all beta software, it's highly recommended to get rid of it and do a
clean install with the RTM.
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"Mackenzie" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news: (e-mail address removed)...
| Is there going to be any kind of file system change between Beta (2) and
| Final, or will the transition from the Beta version to the Final version
be
| made as simple as possible. I am considering downloading the Beta to my
| computer to see how it's working, but if it will not upgrade from the Beta
| version to the Final version, I don't think I want to do that.
 
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Steve Drake

I would agree with what everyone is saying, but to make it simple, you can
partition you hard disk, put you OS on drive C: and put all your files on an
other drive, I even copy all my install DVDs to my second partition so I can
rebuild the OS and reinstall ALL apps it not time at all.

Steve
 
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Andre Da Costa [Extended64]

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Jeff

It is incorrect to say that RTM will not upgrade RC builds. This has yet to
be determined.

Jeff
 
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Zack Whittaker

He's right - it can't work like that. RC builds are uavailable to be bases
for upgrades to an RTM'd copy of any operating system.

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of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
that up!

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orthocross

Upgrades are to be avoided, period. Back it up, slick it via installing new
OS "clean", restore from backup, have at it. Only install Vista Beta builds,
or any Beta build for that matter, on a "SkunkWerks" computer that is not
your everyday bread-and-butter computer. Unless you are the adventurous
(read: reckless) type... ;-D

Or types like me, who ARE adventurous AND dirt-poor.
What's life like without taking chances, anyway? I can't stand eggs,
either, unless I put salt on 'em.

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Donald L McDaniel
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orthocross

Upgrades are to be avoided, period. Back it up, slick it via installing new
OS "clean", restore from backup, have at it. Only install Vista Beta builds,
or any Beta build for that matter, on a "SkunkWerks" computer that is not
your everyday bread-and-butter computer. Unless you are the adventurous
(read: reckless) type... ;-D

Lang

I guess rich folks get to take chances by going to Europe and other
exotic places. Poor folks like me get to take chances by installing
Beta OSes on our only production machine(s). In my case, its an Intel
iMac 17" w/ OS 10.4.6, and dualbooting with XP using Apple's BootCamp
software, and soon, hopefully, with Vista Beta 2 and Vista's
Candidate(s).

However, being able to virtualize ANY of the three OSes side by side
would provide a great opportunity to choose between solutions. Three
choices: What a great concept. Three chances to make one or more
Operating Systems our own. Whether we chose only one, or all three,
in the end does not matter.

Even better than virtualizing three OSes would be RUNNING three OSes
NATIVELY side by side each on its own display with all three using the
same CPU. Physically, I am able to tri-boot with three OSes. I could
use a larger internal HD, or a secondary internal HD, or both. But
also as important, I would need a second Duo-Core processor, or a
Quad-Core processor, or even a 64-bit Intel or clone, such as AMD
64-bit processors if I had to. If a PowerPC could run Vista natively,
rather than a software virtualization kludge, it would be possible to
use a Quad-Core PowerPC. If IBM had been willing to change its
priorities, we would have 5 gHZ x86s Quad-Cores today.

But, most important of all, we need support from Apple, since only
they produce BootCamp. If Apple will add support for multi-booting in
BootCamp, many will continue using Apples to run non-Apple, but
hardware compatible, OSes.

The old "carny" was right when he said, "You pays yer dime, and you
takes yer chances". Probably, in his day, the dime you gave him payed
for 3 chances to throw a large ring around a small bottle (and you
NEVER succeeded, but alway wound up, somehow, with a small prize, a
colorful gew-gaw mass-produced in Taiwan). Ah, glorious youth...

Our chances today are not so clearly defined for us. Since there
there are many more choices, there are many more chances to take.

Anyway, whether it's by installing a beta on your only machine, or by
taking a "deluxe" hunting trip to Darkest Africa, we're still all
taking chances in life.

And as long as we are willing to take chances, life will be fun and
others become easier to get along with. Take the chances away, and
life suddenly loses all flavor. Remove the mystery, and life becomes
dark and forboding. Take away all hope, and life simply ends,
forever. Take away all honor, and life has no reward. Take away all
respect, and life becomes bitter and undesirable.

Whether we install a questionable beta OS on our only precious
machine, or install a beta on a thousand replaceable desktops, we are
all taking chances, without which life has no meaning.
The PURPOSE is in taking the best choices for US (and our families and
companies, of course. Nor should we leave out those who cannot defend
and take care of themselves). THAT is the American Dream in a
nutshell.

Hopefully, both Microsoft and Apple will make the best choices for all
of us, and not just themselves.

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Donald L McDaniel
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Steve Cochran

Or buy another hard drive. A 300 Gig drive is about $ 99 here in the
States.

steve
 
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Jeff

Hi Zack -

It is technically possible to upgrade RC builds to RTM - it always has been
in the past. You can't purchase an upgrade SKU and go to RTM, but if you
have the correct SKU it has always worked in the past.

Jeff
 

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