Backing up

[WTC]

Not true. You can easily restore single files on any partition with
Acronis.

Feature list from www.acronis.com :

Key features:


Online system disk backup and instant bare-metal system restore


Restore individual files and folders


Integrated compression and password protection


Disk imaging and disk cloning


Incremental disk backup and disk backup image verification


Acronis Secure Zone and Acronis Startup Recovery Manager

Can TI create an image back up to a networked drive? Also can TI restore
the complete image from a networked drive?

 

[mxh]

Can TI create an image back up to a networked drive? Also can TI restore
the complete image from a networked drive?

Yes, it can do both from within windows or via the boot CD.

mxh

 

[WTC]

Yes, it can do both from within windows or via the boot CD.

Thanks.

 

[Richard Urban [MVP]]

You are beating a horse that is going no where. True Image "does not" allow
you to restore single files that are in use, either while booted up within
Windows, or while booted up from the T.I. recovery CD.

Ghost 9.0 does. All a person has to do is read the help that comes with
Ghost to find out how to do this.

Reading all of the True Image help available is not going to tell
people/users how to do what can not be done.

You were kind enough to do so, with a bit of prodding. In your initial post
to me you said it could be done, but didn't say how to do it.

I responded with "If you have found a way to do this, please post your
methodology here for everyone to see."

If you take offence at that remark you need to toughen up a bit!


--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[WTC]

You are beating a horse that is going no where. True Image "does not"
allow you to restore single files that are in use, either while booted
up within Windows, or while booted up from the T.I. recovery CD.

Ghost 9.0 does. All a person has to do is read the help that comes
with Ghost to find out how to do this.

Reading all of the True Image help available is not going to tell
people/users how to do what can not be done.

You were kind enough to do so, with a bit of prodding. In your initial
post to me you said it could be done, but didn't say how to do it.

I responded with "If you have found a way to do this, please post your
methodology here for everyone to see."

If you take offence at that remark you need to toughen up a bit!

I certainly will not use TI because I do not want to spend an half hour
to restore one file if I understand mhx correctly. And if I remember
right, you did a test with NG and TI in the past. There was something
about the pagefile I didn't like with the TI results or maybe it was how
they restored the backup image. If you still have a copy of the test
could you email me a copy.

bcrawfordjr (remove) at hotmail . com

 

[mxh]

You are beating a horse that is going no where. True Image "does not"
allow you to restore single files that are in use, either while booted up
within Windows, or while booted up from the T.I. recovery CD.

Ghost 9.0 does. All a person has to do is read the help that comes with
Ghost to find out how to do this.

But you are assuming that such documentation is easily grasped by all, which
of course is false. The average user would have trouble with the concept of
imaging, let alone the implementation of such.

Reading all of the True Image help available is not going to tell
people/users how to do what can not be done.

You were kind enough to do so, with a bit of prodding. In your initial
post to me you said it could be done, but didn't say how to do it.

Actually, you said:

"Please note that True Image does NOT allow you to do this single file
restore on the Windows partition. With TI it is all or nothing."

But of course, there *are* other choices, as I have shown.

I responded with "If you have found a way to do this, please post your
methodology here for everyone to see."

And so I did. It didn't take a lot of thought.

If you take offence at that remark you need to toughen up a bit!

I initially was unaware that TI couldn't do it, but once you became prissy,
I checked and found out it couldn't. Of course, it was easy enough to
overwrite the file from DOS or BPE. I suppose Acronis could add it in the
future without much effort, but even if they didn't, it wouldn't sway my
opinion regarding Ghost 9, and I was an avid Ghost user for many years.

That all changed when Norton, recognizing that (even though they were the
industry leader at one time) they were losing sales, bought into drive image
and made it into that wonderful systemically bloated product that it is
today.
Of course, everyone has their opinions, which is why, I suppose, Norton is
still (incomprehensibly) in business.

However, as should be obvious, my objection was not directed toward your
endorsement of Ghost (as is your right), but rather your tone. Prissy is as
prissy does...

mxh

 

[Richard Urban]

LOL (-:

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[mxh]

I certainly will not use TI because I do not want to spend an half hour to
restore one file if I understand mhx correctly.

It's not quite as complicated as it might seem, even for the uninitiated. It
took about 3 mins for me to accomplish a system file overwrite. Also, you
can bet that Acronis will add this to a future build.
Acronis is very stable. I can't say the same for *any* Norton products
(until v9, Ghost was *great*!). The problem with Ghost 9 (as with all Norton
products [they used to be the best]) is that every product they make is
systemically unstable on *many* systems.

System crashes, freeze ups and app crashes are common on machines using
Norton products. Check around. you'll find that a large percentage of those
who are advanced computer users will tell you the same thing.

And if I remember right, you did a test with NG and TI in the past. There
was something about the pagefile I didn't like with the TI results

One feature I like is that TI doesn't image the page file, which makes the
image that much smaller.

You could download the trial version of both products (if Ghost 9 has a
trail) and decide for yourself. You may find that Ghost is stable on your
machine. The point I would like to make is: don't let the inability to
overwrite a single system file at this point in time make your decision for
you. Until Acronis institutes suich an ability, there are ways around that
(if you ever have need to copy an individual system file...).


mxh

 

[WTC]

Acronis is very stable. I can't say the same for *any* Norton products
(until v9, Ghost was *great*!). The problem with Ghost 9 (as with all
Norton products [they used to be the best]) is that every product they
make is systemically unstable on *many* systems.

System crashes, freeze ups and app crashes are common on machines
using Norton products. Check around. you'll find that a large
percentage of those who are advanced computer users will tell you the
same thing.

I am an advance user, and with my experience with customers who like
Norton products and have problems are generally due to systems infected
with something or the OS is not running properly. I have hardly seen any
Norton products having problems being installed after a clean install of
the OS and the user taking the proper care of their system.

One thing I find with Norton Security products are resource hogs, I do
not find this with Ghost or Partition Magic.

I do not use NIS or NAV because of the resource issue. I only use Ghost
and Partition Magic.

 

[Paul Knudsen]

But does imaging (with Ghost for example) allow you to restore individual
files from within that image? AFAIK it doesn't, so an incremental backup
program might be of more use?

Acronis does.

 

[mxh]

Acronis is very stable. I can't say the same for *any* Norton products
(until v9, Ghost was *great*!). The problem with Ghost 9 (as with all
Norton products [they used to be the best]) is that every product they
make is systemically unstable on *many* systems.

System crashes, freeze ups and app crashes are common on machines using
Norton products. Check around. you'll find that a large percentage of
those who are advanced computer users will tell you the same thing.

I am an advance user, and with my experience with customers who like
Norton products and have problems are generally due to systems infected
with something or the OS is not running properly. I have hardly seen any
Norton products having problems being installed after a clean install of
the OS and the user taking the proper care of their system.

One thing I find with Norton Security products are resource hogs, I do not
find this with Ghost or Partition Magic.

I do not use NIS or NAV because of the resource issue. I only use Ghost
and Partition Magic.

Fair enough.

mxh