B + W printer for kids homework

[Stumpy]

I'm tired of buying so much ink because of the way my offspring edit
homework . They print out a report, fix a couple of problems, then print it
out, make it look better, print it out, etc., etc.

I had been using a Canon BC-02 cartridge on a BJC-1000 which is ~$24/31mls
of ink.

I changed to my old Deskjet 500 which uses an HP-26 with 40mls of ink for
~$26.

The bigger, older printer seems much more economical. I think it gets
double the pages/cartridge. What other factors influence how many pages you
get from similar inkjet printers?

 

[Dave]

Teach them what the "Print Preview" option is in most all programs and
smack the hell out of them for wasting ink and paper

 

[Stumpy]

Teach them what the "Print Preview" option is in most all programs and

smack the hell out of them for wasting ink and paper

Yeah. That's good advice, but not an option.(the smacking I mean)

It seems to require too much parental involvement to fix such things
onscreen, and I don't want to do the projects myself. I just want to save
money and avoid the last minute trips to replace empty cartridges. The
Deskjet also seems to run out slower and can finish a report as the ink runs
out.

 

[Stratman]

| I'm tired of buying so much ink because of the way my offspring edit
| homework . They print out a report, fix a couple of problems, then print
it
| out, make it look better, print it out, etc., etc.
|
| I had been using a Canon BC-02 cartridge on a BJC-1000 which is ~$24/31mls
| of ink.
|
| I changed to my old Deskjet 500 which uses an HP-26 with 40mls of ink for
| ~$26.
|
| The bigger, older printer seems much more economical. I think it gets
| double the pages/cartridge. What other factors influence how many pages
you
| get from similar inkjet printers?
|
|

I think you willl be pleasantly surprised by the low cost of B/W laser
printers. No clogging, no using half the ink in a cleaning cycle and no
banding are some of the advantages.

 

[LBW]

I'm tired of buying so much ink because of the way my offspring edit
homework . They print out a report, fix a couple of problems, then
print it out, make it look better, print it out, etc., etc.

I had been using a Canon BC-02 cartridge on a BJC-1000 which is
~$24/31mls of ink.

I changed to my old Deskjet 500 which uses an HP-26 with 40mls of ink
for ~$26.

The bigger, older printer seems much more economical. I think it gets
double the pages/cartridge. What other factors influence how many
pages you get from similar inkjet printers?

Use cheaper compatible cartridges or learn how to refill with bulk ink or
from a refill kit. Very simple for Canon printers. Bulk ink will
typically run you about $1 per cart refill. Don't use universal inks!!
And let those kiddies print. Even I as a mature adult need to reprint
several times before I'm good with it. LBW

 

[Stumpy]

Use cheaper compatible cartridges or learn how to refill with bulk ink or
from a refill kit. Very simple for Canon printers. Bulk ink will
typically run you about $1 per cart refill. Don't use universal inks!!
And let those kiddies print. Even I as a mature adult need to reprint
several times before I'm good with it. LBW

The prices I mentioned were actually Staples brand generics. I know I can
get cheaper if I buy multiples somewhere else, but then they seem to clog up
before I use the last one.

I haven't tried a refill kit yet. I've got 3 working printers and don't
want to buy a laser printer too. I'll start saving my used cartridges.

 

[measekite]

The prices I mentioned were actually Staples brand generics. I know I can
get cheaper if I buy multiples somewhere else, but then they seem to clog up
before I use the last one.

I haven't tried a refill kit yet. I've got 3 working printers and don't
want to buy a laser printer too. I'll start saving my used cartridges.

I think you should let the kids do their own refilling. Save as much
money and labor as you can.

 

[Bob Headrick]

I'm tired of buying so much ink because of the way my offspring edit homework
. They print out a report, fix a couple of problems, then print it out, make
it look better, print it out, etc., etc.

I had been using a Canon BC-02 cartridge on a BJC-1000 which is ~$24/31mls of
ink.

I changed to my old Deskjet 500 which uses an HP-26 with 40mls of ink for
~$26.

The bigger, older printer seems much more economical. I think it gets double
the pages/cartridge. What other factors influence how many pages you get
from similar inkjet printers?

The biggest factor there is probably in the amount of ink used in servicing.
Most printers that have fixed printheads use a large amount of ink in
servicing. The servicing overhead depends on the usage - lower usage results
in more servicing. If one prints only once per week more than two thirds of
the ink may end up in the "diaper" in the bottom of the printer, used to keep
the printhead from clogging. Printers with the printheads built into the ink
supply typically use a small fraction of this amount for servicing. (An
exception to the above is the new HP Photosmart 8200 series and the all-in-ones
based on this technology. They recirculate the servicing ink rather than
dumping it in a diaper.)

Unplugging the printer or turning it off from an external switch such as a
power strip can cause more ink to be used in servicing as the printer loses
track of time and may assume the worst case.

Printing with "draft" or "econofast" modes may only use half the ink as
printing in normal modes. For best results change the default settings to
draft mode.

The printhead, ink and printer design can also make a large difference in the
pages per mL. For example, HP printers from ~5 years ago got about 800 pages
of text from a 42mL #45 cartridge. Today printers using the #96 cartridge with
21 mL deliver the same 800 pages.

Regards,
Bob Headrick

 

[Davy]

If its b&w you want, why not a laser printer I got a Samsun
ML1510 for £54 inc del. and 12 months warranty

L.o.L, the toner assembley is around £60, I got three bottles of tone
powder for around £12, and still have one left

No clogging like ink jets, it's a real workhorse and also used fo
making printed circuit board designs by using 'Toner Transfer Film
the stuff you iron on - so the laser gets a good clogging, but no
the blockage variety

You can refill as long as the drum holds out, mine still going strong
the drum is part of the toner unit

No ink no clogging

Dav

 

[CWatters]

I'm tired of buying so much ink because of the way my offspring edit
homework .

Have you looked at getting a Continuous Ink System (CIS).
http://www.nomorecarts.com/

 

[Stumpy]

Unplugging the printer or turning it off from an external switch such as a
power strip can cause more ink to be used in servicing as the printer
loses track of time and may assume the worst case.

Printing with "draft" or "econofast" modes may only use half the ink as
printing in normal modes. For best results change the default settings to
draft mode.

The printhead, ink and printer design can also make a large difference in
the pages per mL. For example, HP printers from ~5 years ago got about
800 pages of text from a 42mL #45 cartridge. Today printers using the #96
cartridge with 21 mL deliver the same 800 pages.

Allright. maybe I can change the default mode to "draft". Am still
resistant to upgrading to laser. Interesting comment about old printers -
the DeskJet is at least 5yrs old.

 

[Stumpy]

Have you looked at getting a Continuous Ink System (CIS).
http://www.nomorecarts.com/

Cool. But overkill for B+W only. I will try refills once I use up the
current batch of carts. HP first.

 

[zakezuke]

I had been using a Canon BC-02 cartridge on a BJC-1000 which is ~$24/31mls

of ink.

Yep, while not the best deal on the market... this does fall into the
pretty cheap catagory. While ml isn't an accurate meter of page use...
also in a similar class are the current bci-3e and pgi-5 canon tanks at
25/26ml... the older hp45a at 42ml IIRC 833p at about $26ish a
cartridge. I'm not up on the current hp ink cartridge models. The
current HP #02 like on the hp8250 doesn't seem to bad, close to 500p
for $18. The #96 isn't such a bad deal either in therms of price.

Lasers are generally the way to go, though some of the lower priced
ones are onpart with the cost per page similar to the inkjets you
already own.

Refilling either inkjet or laser is probally the way to go. The canon
BC-02 isn't a prime choice, but not a bad one as a replacement BC-02 is
cheap enough if the head goes sour. Easier are the Canon BCI-3e series
like the ip3000/4000/5000 i850/i860. We're talking $5 for roughly 60ml
of ink matched to the printer. I get my ink from www.inksupply.com. I
believe it's not as good as what canon offers. The dry time is
slightly higher, some papers the ink tends to pool a little, but given
the price difference I can live with it. Typicaly speaking the price
difference is so high you can get way with printing 10 times as much
for about the same cost. So a person with kids will still feel it,
just not as much.







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[CWatters]

Cool. But overkill for B+W only. I will try refills once I use up the
current batch of carts. HP first.

Well you don't need to get that particular model. Perhaps you can find one
for just the black ink? You might even find instructions on the web on how
to make one.

 

[Michael Johnson, PE]

I'm tired of buying so much ink because of the way my offspring edit
homework . They print out a report, fix a couple of problems, then print it
out, make it look better, print it out, etc., etc.

I had been using a Canon BC-02 cartridge on a BJC-1000 which is ~$24/31mls
of ink.

I changed to my old Deskjet 500 which uses an HP-26 with 40mls of ink for
~$26.

The bigger, older printer seems much more economical. I think it gets
double the pages/cartridge. What other factors influence how many pages you
get from similar inkjet printers?

Get a Canon printer that uses BCI-3e black cartridges and then buy
compatibles from ebay for $1.00-$1.50 per cartridges which includes
shipping. IMO, this even beats laser printers for cost effectiveness.

 

[measekite]

Get a Canon printer that uses BCI-3e black cartridges and then buy
compatibles from ebay for $1.00-$1.50 per cartridges which includes
shipping. IMO, this even beats laser printers for cost effectiveness.

If you do not want a clogged printhead and poor results use Canon OEM
ink. It costs more but is better quality.

 

[measekite]

That appears to be the case with Epson. My Canon has been on for 14
straight months without a problem. I use OEM ink.
HP has a fantastic draft mode. Amost as good as Canon standard mode.

 

[measekite]

For them it is worth using crap ink and taking a risk on a clog. Look
into prefilled carts.

 

[Stumpy]

Refilling either inkjet or laser is probally the way to go. The canon
BC-02 isn't a prime choice, but not a bad one as a replacement BC-02 is
cheap enough if the head goes sour. Easier are the Canon BCI-3e series
like the ip3000/4000/5000 i850/i860. We're talking $5 for roughly 60ml
of ink matched to the printer. I get my ink from www.inksupply.com. I
believe it's not as good as what canon offers. The dry time is
slightly higher, some papers the ink tends to pool a little, but given
the price difference I can live with it. Typicaly speaking the price
difference is so high you can get way with printing 10 times as much
for about the same cost. So a person with kids will still feel it,
just not as much.

I noticed that this site rates the difficulty of refilling the Canon as 1/2
that of the HP. When I get a refill kit, I will probably go back to the
BJC-1000 and its BC-02s.

For now I found a local shop that does refurbished carts for the DeskJet 500
at $15.50 each.

 

[measekite]

I noticed that this site rates the difficulty of refilling the Canon as 1/2
that of the HP. When I get a refill kit, I will probably go back to the
BJC-1000 and its BC-02s.

For now I found a local shop that does refurbished carts for the DeskJet 500
at $15.50 each.

Be careful about leakage. Also since the HP has a builtin printhead you
do not know how many times it has been used.