Atomic Clock sync in Win-XP....???

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David_nj_7

Does Windows XP come with an ATOMIC CLOCK SYNC utility? .... or are
these "third party" add on programs?

Also... If you are using a dial-up connection, would having a program
like this set to automatically ping the server throughout the day use
up any bandwidth or somehow slow an already sluggish dial-up
connection?

Thanks in advance

DAVID
 
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Bernard Liengme

To quote from http://www.hko.gov.hk/nts/Xp-sync.htm
Windows XP users can synchronize their PC clocks by using the built-in time
synchronization utility in the operating system. To synchronize your PC
clock with the Hong Kong Observatory's network time server, please follow
the steps below:

1.. Click "Date and Time" in "Control Panel";

2.. Click the "Internet Time" tab;

3.. In the box named "Server", type the name of the Observatory's network
time server "stdtime.gov.hk";

4.. To synchronize your PC clock, click "Update Now".
Please note that the "Update Now" button does not function unless the
"Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server" check box is
selected.

But my set up uses time.windows.com as the server
My the way, I found the above with a Google using: Windows XP clock sync.
best wishes
 
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Larry Mauriello

If I'm not mistaken Windows does not have any type of *atomic* clock. These
would be addin links.
Afa using dialup. If you connect to an atomic clock prog. they usually let
you ck on set amt. of time. Say 3-6hrs.
It takes maybe a second or 2, so I wouldn't worry about *bandwidth*.
 
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Curt Christianson

Hi David,

Yes, Windows does have the capacity to sync with Atomic clocks. It's
through Control Panel>Date & Time, and there is a tab for internet time.
Bear in mind however, using even the most accurate time, there is still some
inaccuracy in that the time signals must travel through servers, telephone
lines, modems, etc. Even when I accessed WWV (considered a world time
standard for years) on shortwave radio, that even has it's inaccuracies as
it must travel through the atmosphere.

Whether you could use Task Scheduler to access this several times a day, I
don't know. I've never had call to use the scheduler.

There are third party apps. widely available (and free) that offer more
flexibility than the built-in Windows method.

For more info., including links for downloads, see here:
http://tf.nist.gov/

Even accessing time a few times a day would not be much of a problem, even
on dial-up, as I did it when I was running W98.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/
 
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Alan Biddle

David,

From the Help utility:

"To open Date and Time, click Start, point to Settings, click Control
Panel, and then double-click Date and Time. An Internet time server
updates the date set by your computer as well as the time. "

It updates once a week, though I have seen a minor Registry edit to
make that more often.

There are many other programs which will work as add-ons. Some free,
most cheap. I have used a program called SocketWatch, found at
http://www.robomagic.com/swatch.htm literally since WIN95 days. All
updates have been free, and it works fine with both dial up and DSL.
 
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Bruce Chambers

Does Windows XP come with an ATOMIC CLOCK SYNC utility?


Yes. Double-click on the time disply in the System Tray, click on the
Internet Time tab, select the desired time server, and place a
check-mark in the Automatically synchronize.....

.... or are
these "third party" add on programs?

There are, but they're unnecessary.

Also... If you are using a dial-up connection, would having a program
like this set to automatically ping the server throughout the day use
up any bandwidth or somehow slow an already sluggish dial-up
connection?

Yes, of course it would. How else?


--

Bruce Chambers

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Bruce Chambers

Larry said:
If I'm not mistaken Windows does not have any type of *atomic* clock. These
would be addin links.


Ah...., but you are mistaken. Double-click on the time disply in the
System Tray, click on the Internet Time tab, select the desired time
server, and place a check-mark in the Automatically synchronize.....



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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

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Curt Christianson

The settings for internet time can be found here in the Registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time

**Edit at your own risk** , if you decide you want to tweak around in there.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/
 
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Timothy Daniels

Bruce Chambers said:
Ah...., but you are mistaken. Double-click on the time disply in the
System Tray, click on the Internet Time tab, select the desired time
server, and place a check-mark in the Automatically synchronize.....


Ah...., but that just uses a protocol to access a remote server
which claims to be sync'd with an atomic clock. The server could
actually be synch'd with somebody's wristwatch in Greenwich,
Conneticut. There is no atomic clock in the OS, none in the PC,
and none in the server. There is only the claim that the remote
server is linked with an atomic timekeeper of some sort.

*TimDaniels*
 
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Timothy Daniels

"Curt Christianson" non sequitured:


Ah.... realize that the atomic clock is not in Windows,
not in your computer, and not in the server that you access.
You answered Larry Muriello's observation that WINDOWS
does not include an atomic clock (see above) with your
reply: "Ah...., but you are mistaken." In fact, Larry is NOT
mistaken. He is RIGHT - Windows has no atomic clock.

*TimDaniels*
 
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Curt Christianson

Hi Timothy,

My mistake. My comment was to the OP's query of "does Windows have an
Atomic Clock *sync* utility", which it certainly does.

If Windows came with an "Atomic clock", then I'd likely be glowing in the
dark!

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/
 
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Anna

Timothy Daniels said:
Ah... change that to:


Hi Tim:
Trust you and the others involved in this discussion will not look amiss at
my "hijacking" this thread for just a moment while I query you on an
entirely different subject...

I know you to be a long-time user and fan of the Casper disk cloning program
and I wanted to ask you if you've had any experience with their latest 4.0
version, particularly as it relates to Vista. We've run into some issues
using the Acronis True Image program (their latest "build") with Vista and I
was casting about to see if Casper might be a viable option for us. I've
worked with their trial version these past few days and I was quite
impressed with the program - particularly its incremental disk-cloning
capability which is a new (to us) and welcome capability for a disk-to-disk
cloning program.

We would be particularly interested in Casper's Startup Disk (not available
in the trial version) with respect to its boot capability and its overall
effectiveness in carrying out the disk-cloning operation (in comparison to
using the GUI of the installed program). The obvious portability aspects are
most important to us.

Any issues/problems with SATA HDDs or systems with a mix of PATA-SATA
drives?

We understand the program is designed for both XP & Vista however our
primary interest at this point is working with the program in a Vista
environment. (BTW, our initial experience with Vista's "Complete PC Backup
and Restore" program has been quite negative because of its erratic nature.
Reliability doesn't seem to be one of its strong points).

Again, my apologies for barging in on this thread with an unrelated
subject-matter. Tim, please feel free to change the subject name of your
response to "Casper 4.0 disk cloning program" or some such and I'll look out
for it. Thanks.
Anna
 
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Guest

Bernard Liengme said:
To quote from http://www.hko.gov.hk/nts/Xp-sync.htm
Windows XP users can synchronize their PC clocks by using the built-in time
synchronization utility in the operating system. To synchronize your PC
clock with the Hong Kong Observatory's network time server, please follow
the steps below:

1.. Click "Date and Time" in "Control Panel";

2.. Click the "Internet Time" tab;

3.. In the box named "Server", type the name of the Observatory's network
time server "stdtime.gov.hk";

4.. To synchronize your PC clock, click "Update Now".
Please note that the "Update Now" button does not function unless the
"Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server" check box is
selected.

But my set up uses time.windows.com as the server
My the way, I found the above with a Google using: Windows XP clock sync.
best wishes
--
Bernard V Liengme
www.stfx.ca/people/bliengme
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I use windows server as time sinc but it suddenly stopped automatically correcting and is giving me an error message when I try to sinc manually (both windows and nist.gov). I run service pack 2 with DST update. All boxes correctly selected and auto update turned on but computer won't sinc. Any help greatly appreciated.

Higgie
 
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Rock

I use windows server as time sinc but it suddenly stopped automatically
correcting and is giving me an error message when I try to sinc manually
(both windows and nist.gov). I run service pack 2 with DST update. All
boxes correctly selected and auto update turned on but computer won't sinc.
Any help greatly appreciated.

The two windows time servers in XP are not working. Use a different time
server.
 
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Guest

Rock said:
I use windows server as time sinc but it suddenly stopped automatically
correcting and is giving me an error message when I try to sinc manually
(both windows and nist.gov). I run service pack 2 with DST update. All
boxes correctly selected and auto update turned on but computer won't sinc.
Any help greatly appreciated.

The two windows time servers in XP are not working. Use a different time
server.
 

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