ATI 7.2 drivers are released

[Dale M. White]

When the system boots, it normally tells you what speed your ram is running
at. But yes, you would go into the bios to check you ram settings. On ASUS,
there should be an option called Advance settings. A easy way to figure out
if RAM speed is the problem, is to remove two of the sticks, the system
should boot under the normal DDR400 mode.

Overclocking will not fix your problem, in fact you may cause your system to
hang. Not that Im against overclocking, I've just had more trouble
overclocking with 4 sticks of memory than 2 sticks, which is why I traded in
my 4 sticks and bought 2x1GB sticks.

To run the doom3 benchmark, you start the game. Hit Ctrl + ~ this should
drop down your console window and you would type in timedemo demo1 1 You
can bind this command to a key so that you can skip the a few steps, from
the console you would type

bind F5 timedemo demo1 1

from that point on, anytime you press the F5 key the demo benchmark will
start.

That will run the basic Doom3 benchmark and give you a score.

 

[Guest]

Well, my system boot dosent show my memory detail nor speed. I tryed to check
in BIOS but i can't find the memory speed :\
I used a aplication called CPU-Z (you probably know) that shows us the
current cpu speed, and memory speed, etc etc... and it says in memory:
size: 2048 mb
frequency: 159.9 mhz

And Doom3 at medium quality at 1024*768 gave me the excelent result of: 5.8
FPS Yes 5(dot)8, not 58!!! This is bad right? :'(
But in XP i had excelent results in high quality, i played the game very
well there.

What can i do? pleaseeeeee helpppp

 

[Dale M. White]

Whoa 5.8, that's just crazy. you've got something funky going on.

Here is my report for verison 1.39 of CPU-Z
http://images1.filecloud.com/373464/mem_speed.jpg

Notice my memory is reporting 225, that's because it is overclocked from the
standard 200. 200 is the speed for DDR400 aka PC3200

Your memory is reporting 159.9 or basically 160, which x2 would basically be
320 which is close enough to 333, to tell me your memory speed is slow.
Which is odd, traditionally Intel chipsets don't act as bad as AMD

Also, look and make sure you memory is saying DUAL in teh channels,it almost
sounds like you're running in single channel mode.

Odd that this wasn't a problem under Vista, or did oyu just recently add the
other GB of ram ? You might still have some other problem going on. Did oyu
install your chipset drivers ? if you run DXDIAG and look at display,
everything should say enabled. if not, you're probably missing somechipset
drivers or something
http://images1.filecloud.com/373466/dxdiag.jpg

Not sure what else to tell you, maybe you just have a bad install of Vista.

 

[Guest]

Yes i think i have the chipset drivers, i tryed to update again.
Here is my DirectX Display:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2861/directxdisplaypd5.jpg

Yes. I did add an extra 512 DDR400 when i installed Vista...
I turn the AI Overclocking to manual and the memory fields appear. I just
turn memory frequency to 400mhz. After doing that, CPU-Z gave me the follow:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5397/cpuzmemoryafterpd6.jpg

&CPU
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4439/cpuzcpuafteron4.jpg

But besides, i ran another benchmark of doom after this and it gave me FPS =
7.8 :'(

One apart thing, whenever i open the Control Panel, the windows gives me a
"windows explorer error" and closes, do you have any idea why? This gave me
before i did this changes.

What do you think Dale?

 

[Bill Davis Jr]

I do not know if you mentioned it but what motherboard are you using?

 

[Guest]

I'm using ASUS P4P800, that has the Ai overclocking feature.

 

[Dale M. White]

If you look at you memory screen it says your memory is running in Single
channel versus Dual channel.That will be a performance hit, though I
wouldn't think it would be a massive one. I'd say, take out the extra 2
sticks of memory and then run the Doom3 benchmarks again, also check the
CPU-Z to make sure channels says Dual.

 

[Guest]

yeah, i notice the single channel :\
Ok, i've take out 2 of the sticks and let it be 1024mb. CPU-Z still tells me
Single Channel and frequency of 199mhz.
I ran Doom3 and had 7 FPS

How do i put it in Dual Channel?
And do you think that the memory is the cause of the very low FPS at Doom3?

I'm getting very sad and frustrated

 

[Dale \Mad_Murdock\ White]

I think running in Single channel at the very most should only cost you
like half your performance but that's only memory speed, but that shouldn't
mean 7fps, you should still get in the neighborhood for 50fps with your
config. I don't know of a way to make a system run in Dual Channel.

I looked on the ASUS site and though I don't know which flavor of the P4P800
you have, they all are listed as being Dual Channel boards
http://usa.asus.com/search.aspx?searchitem=1&searchkey=p4p800

I'll ask the obvious question, on the older boards you know you put the
memory in banks 1 &3 and not banks 1&2 right ? On the Asus boards, you
should have 2 blue slots and 2 black slots. You'll want to put them in the 2
blue slots if I remember correctly.

Something else you can do, is goto www.guru3d.com and download the SANDRA
2005 or Xl version and run the benchmarks. It will tell you how your system
compares to other systems. You can also goto www.futuremark.com and download
3dMark05 or 06 and run that benchmark and get a score and report back here,
you can also upload that score and compare it to other systems like yours
and see if there is a huge difference. the 3dmark's are mainly DX and not
OpenGL, so it won't tell you about problems with Doom3 or Quake4, but it
will let you know how your system is doing overall. So then you'll know if
it's just a Doom3 problem or a System problem.

 

[Bill Davis Jr]

I'll ask the obvious question, on the older boards you know you put the
memory in banks 1 &3 and not banks 1&2 right ? On the Asus boards, you
should have 2 blue slots and 2 black slots. You'll want to put them in the 2
blue slots if I remember correctly.

Yes Dale that is correct. There are four memory banks. Banks 1 (Blue),
Bank 2 (Black), Bank 3 (Blue) and Bank 4 (Black).

You will want to install the memory sticks for Dual Channel in the
same colored slot, Bank 1 (Blue) and Bank 3 (Blue). Anything other
than that will be Single Channel. Unless you get four sticks of memory
(preferably all matched) then will revert back to Dual Channel.

 

[Guest]

my motherboard is the standard model "P4P800".
Yes i had the memorys put correctly, but i dont remember if they ever worked
in Dual channel. Because in XP i didnt need to check that, the games run fast
there.

I've made the benchmarks tests, and let me tell you, there is realy
something wrong :\ Here is the results:
sisoftware sandra-> Cpu was normal, memory is normal, altough its says that
it would be better if there were more memory to equal the processor.

3dmark06
3d mark score: 1479
SM2.0 score: 781
CPU socre: 630
And let me tell you, when i was running the bests, i was getting 6 - 9
FPS... In XP i always had good results in 3d mark, please tell me that this
can be fixed and its not just because of the Vista.

 

[Dale \Mad_Murdock\ White]

Well, I don't think it's because of Vista, but I think there is probably
something wrong with your vista install.Maybe you need to un-install your
drivers, reboot, grab a program called nasty file remover (hope it works
under Vista) and let it clean up any traces of the ATI driver., re-install
the 7.1 or 7.2 drivers and not installed the CCC.

Before you do that, you could look in the CCC and make sure that the setting
for Vsync didn't accidentally get turned on.

At the end of it all, you might be forced to format and re-install vista.

 

[Guest]

So, I uninstall the drivers, reboot, run Nasty File Remover in safe mode
(cause
it needs permitions the delete the files), reinstalled the 7.1 driver only.

The results were better:
Doom3 benchmark at high 800*600 = 15.6 FPS
Doom3 benchmark at medium 1024*768 = 33.5 FPS
3dmark06 at 1024*768 score = 1766

Still, very far from Windows XP. Is this the better i can do before they
release new drivers? From my experience 7.1 is much better than 7.2. So i'll
probably wait till they release 7.3 right?
Is there any thing else i can do?

Thanks for all your help Dale.

 

[Dale \Mad_Murdock\ White]

Wish I had a answer for you, but something just seems to be out of whack.
You can wait for the 7.3s, though you know it will be close to a month
before they are released. I'm still thinking you might need a format
re-install of Vista.