Asrock 939 Dual with AAti Radeon 9800 Pro

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leonbirdi

I have just insalled an Asrock 939 Dual mainboard in my computer. I
have a Ati Radeon 9800 Pro AGP and AMD Athlon 3200 + 1 GB Apacer RAM.

On boot nothing happens - only fans running but no vga signal or disk
activity... Any suggestions please ?
 
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Paul

I have just insalled an Asrock 939 Dual mainboard in my computer. I
have a Ati Radeon 9800 Pro AGP and AMD Athlon 3200 + 1 GB Apacer RAM.

On boot nothing happens - only fans running but no vga signal or disk
activity... Any suggestions please ?

Most likely cause, is you haven't plugged in the 2x2 square ATX12V
power connector.

Next most likely cause, is jumper blocks J1 through J11 have been
changed from the factory default. Make sure the jumper blocks
match what is shown in the manual. J1 through J11 select whether
the motherboard uses the processor socket or the future processor
card slot. The default jumper settings are for selecting the S939
socket.

The 9800Pro also has a power connector, but I think you will still
get a warning video display, if the video card is run without
that connected.

Paul
 
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Squigmont

I have just insalled an Asrock 939 Dual mainboard in my computer. I
have a Ati Radeon 9800 Pro AGP and AMD Athlon 3200 + 1 GB Apacer RAM.

On boot nothing happens - only fans running but no vga signal or disk
activity... Any suggestions please ?

Mine did the same thing, and neither of the things that Paul had suggested
for you were wrong on my end, so I had to RMA it. I bought it through eWiz
and not NewEgg, so it's been a month now and I still haven't received the
replacement. (eWiz ships it back to the factory in Asia and waits for a
replacement from them, *then* they ship it to me. Stupid. NewEgg would have
just send a replacement from stock right away and then dealt with the
supplier on their end for the replacement.)
 
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leonbirdi

Thanks both of you. Unfortunately everything Paul suggests is ok
already... I'll have to return it - but I have a feeling it's got
something to do with the PRO graphics card... Anyone knows about that ?
It's very unclear in the manual, but there's something about "3.3 volt"
cards not supported...
 
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RzR

Thanks both of you. Unfortunately everything Paul suggests is ok
already... I'll have to return it - but I have a feeling it's got
something to do with the PRO graphics card... Anyone knows about that ?
It's very unclear in the manual, but there's something about "3.3 volt"
cards not supported...


it should work...hell, riva tnt32 works no problem...can you test all
the cpu, ram and video card separately in another configuration? that
would pretty much pinpoint if its the board for sure
 
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Paul

Thanks both of you. Unfortunately everything Paul suggests is ok
already... I'll have to return it - but I have a feeling it's got
something to do with the PRO graphics card... Anyone knows about that ?
It's very unclear in the manual, but there's something about "3.3 volt"
cards not supported...

No, you cannot blame this on the 9800pro. I have one of those
and have used it on two of my "1.5V only" motherboards, and it
works just fine. The edge connector on the card is keyed, to
prevent problems.

Paul
 
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leonbirdi

Guys !

Problem solved. It seems there's a general Antec power supply problem.
The shop installed an even better 480W supply for free - all I had to
to was wait 45 minutes :)

Thanks and merry x-mas to all :)
 
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leonbirdi

Problem solved :)

The power supply in the Antec case was faulty - the shop installed an
even better 480 W supply while I was waiting, so I'm A-OK by now.
Thanks for the support !

BTW: They told me that Antec cases have general problems with the power
supplies - just to help u other guys with similar problems out there...
 
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Bill

Problem solved :)

The power supply in the Antec case was faulty - the shop installed an
even better 480 W supply while I was waiting, so I'm A-OK by now.
Thanks for the support !

BTW: They told me that Antec cases have general problems with the power
supplies - just to help u other guys with similar problems out there...

Could you < or they > be more specific about the problem with Antec
cases/powersupplies? I haven't heard of any recent ones. The last being
around a year ago. They're not using old stock are they?

Bill
 
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Paul

Bill said:
Could you < or they > be more specific about the problem with Antec
cases/powersupplies? I haven't heard of any recent ones. The last being
around a year ago. They're not using old stock are they?

Bill

Well, if Antec gets a bad name, because they cannot tell the users
why their crap does stuff like this, then it will be their own
undoing. One of the forums I visited recently, had an Antec
rep defending their products, and claiming nothing was wrong.
A simple technical explanation, by either the affected motherboard
makers, or by Antec, would clear the air. This is power after all,
and not something high tech. A cheap scope and about 10 minutes
work, would show who is at fault. How many other brands
are having problem like this (failure to POST) ?

As long as users swap supplies, and find another brand works,
that will be all the proof we need.

Antec contracts out the manufacturing of their supplies, and that
is not really unusual. Many in the industry do that. All it takes,
is for Antec to do their own Q.C. on the products, to make sure
no bad designs ship.

Paul
 
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Bill

This in particular sounds like a case of smoke being blown up the
original posters pantaloons.
Well, if Antec gets a bad name, because they cannot tell the users
why their crap does stuff like this, then it will be their own
undoing. One of the forums I visited recently, had an Antec
rep defending their products, and claiming nothing was wrong.
A simple technical explanation, by either the affected motherboard
makers, or by Antec, would clear the air. This is power after all,
and not something high tech. A cheap scope and about 10 minutes
work, would show who is at fault. How many other brands
are having problem like this (failure to POST) ?

As long as users swap supplies, and find another brand works,
that will be all the proof we need.

Hmmm. User has problem. User swaps out 350W Antec PS with 450W Enermax
PS and problem goes away. User states Antec PSs are crap.

See the problem with this.

Possible causes could have been:

Original PS was bad, replacing it with another 350W Antec would have
fixed the problem.

Original PS has incompatability problem with other hardware. This is
fixed in later releases of the PS and/or repair by the manufacturer.

Loose connector on original problem. Fixed when new PS was properly
installed.

Original PS was underpowered for the system; a 480W any brand would
have fixed the problem.
Antec contracts out the manufacturing of their supplies, and that
is not really unusual. Many in the industry do that. All it takes,
is for Antec to do their own Q.C. on the products, to make sure
no bad designs ship.

Paul

Paul, you're one of the few that usually give good technical answers
to problems people post here.

But you've failed to answer my questions. I repeat:

Could you < or they > be more specific about the problem with Antec
cases/powersupplies? I haven't heard of any recent ones. The last being
around a year ago. They're not using old stock are they?

You failed to give a url for the forum you refer too. I like to see
specific problems with specific causes and remedies. I know Antec farms
out their production for power supplies. In fact, I'd be suprised if
they actually manufacture anything of their own instead of just
slapping on their brand on somebody elses product. The same with their
cases. < Not that their is anything inherently wrong with that. >

If there is a specific problem I'd like to know about it so I can
avoid it or figure out how to deal with it.

I've used a number of Antec cases < and had to deal with the usb
wiring problem > and a bunch of Antec supplies from 250W to 550W < and
had to deal with the Abit AV8/Antec PS problem >. So if there's
something new < to me > please say so not just 'some people are having
problems'.

BTW, I've used other cases and power supplies < Enlight, Enermax,
Thermaltake, Chieftec, etc...> so my question isn't just Antec
specific. Any hardware with any problem posted here should be done with
as much detail as possible to aid lurkers and for future google
searchs.

Bill
 

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