Antivirus Protection with Windows Vista

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Paul

Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus programs
running on Windows Vista? Will I be able to install Norton
Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few months?
Thanks.
 
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Alias

Paul said:
Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus programs
running on Windows Vista? Will I be able to install Norton
Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few months?
Thanks.

Don't put Norton anything on your machine. Avast is a very good anti
virus and it's free. http://www.avast.com/ Vista comes with a firewall.

Alias
 
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Paul

I've been using only Norton security programs on my conputers for well over
6 years and have NEVER had a problem!

| Paul wrote:
| > Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus
programs
| > running on Windows Vista? Will I be able to install Norton
| > Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few months?
| > Thanks.
| >
|
| Don't put Norton anything on your machine. Avast is a very good anti
| virus and it's free. http://www.avast.com/ Vista comes with a firewall.
|
| Alias
 
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Alias

Paul said:
I've been using only Norton security programs on my conputers for well over
6 years and have NEVER had a problem!

Maybe if you would use something else, you'd realize what the problems are.

Alias
 
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R. McCarty

Wait until you eventually uninstall them (?) and see if your statement
still remains true. Perhaps you don't realize or notice how much of
your PC's performance has been diminished by using Norton. Most
users who move to other products generally comment on how much
faster the PC runs without Norton. I've personally untangled more
than 200 computers with Norton software and can tell you for a fact
it's ( Norton Home product line ) a lot of trouble for the money. Not
just Norton, but most professional IT folks would add McAfee to the
list of products to avoid. Add to that the licensing cost and that's one
more reason to give Norton a Thumbs down. Even eTrust or CA AV
now provides 3 licenses with a $49 purchase. Last time I checked a
Norton subscription per seat was $39.
 
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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM

Paul said:
Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus
programs
running on Windows Vista? Will I be able to install Norton
Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few months?
Thanks.

Don't put anything from Symantec on your machine.
AVG 7.5 free works on Vista.
Vista has a much improved firewall.
A much better newsgroup for Vista is
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
 
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Guest

Paul said:
I've been using only Norton security programs on my conputers for well over
6 years and have NEVER had a problem!

I've installed a suite of identical Dell desktops from a prepped image, and
some of them gave Norton trouble, some didn't. Go figure.
 
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Dominique

I've been using only Norton security programs on my conputers for well
over 6 years and have NEVER had a problem!

| Paul wrote:
| > Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus
programs
| > running on Windows Vista? Will I be able to install Norton
| > Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few
| > months? Thanks.
| >
|
| Don't put Norton anything on your machine. Avast is a very good anti
| virus and it's free. http://www.avast.com/ Vista comes with a
| firewall.
|
| Alias

I had to replace the motherboard in one of my machine, reinstall
everything and after the activation of NAV2005, Norton cancelled my
licence (the program stopped working). I wrote to them explaining
everything but they don't want to know nothing saying that I installed it
on more than one computer, not listening to what I had to say.

I reformatted everything and my machine runs much better since there is
no trace of Norton on it.

Dominique
 
B

Bob Eyster

This is true with SytemWorks. With this loaded your PC runs like a boat
dragging it's anger. But I have not seen this with NAV and/or NIS or NFW
 
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R. McCarty

Older versions ( prior to the introduction of Product Activation ) was
not as bad [ ~2003 ]. Their (Symantec) enterprise products aren't as
bloated/problematic according to some posters here. To me it seems
like most of the issues surround their Common Client Service. That
one alone is a resource black hole.

Was checking their website this AM to verify subscription rates and
noticed a beta for 360, guess that's their answer to Windows 1-Care.

I still have a few versions of Ghost on a bootable CD-R. Beyond that
I'm Symantec free. Still think the packaging is the right color - Yellow
for CAUTION.
 
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Kerry Brown

Paul said:
Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus
programs
running on Windows Vista? Will I be able to install Norton
Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few months?
Thanks.


Currently Symantec doesn't support Vista. They do have a public beta version
of NAV 2007 for testing with Vista.

http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/download.jsp?pcid=is&pvid=nav2007beta

As many people have already said there are much better AV products than
those from Symantec. The Symantec products work fine but they do take a lot
of resources to run and slow down your computer. They are also very hard to
remove or repair if something goes wrong.

Here are some AV products that have Vista versions available.

http://www.eset.com/products/windows.php#system

http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_professional.html

http://www3.grisoft.com/doc/1/lng/us/tpl/tpl01

There are more. Your favorite search engine can help you find them. I have
tested all of the above and recommend them. They all have trial or free for
personal use versions available so you can test them for yourself.

I haven't tested any 3rd party firewalls because I believe the built in
firewall in Vista is more than adequate.
 
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PA Bear

Vista-specific newsgroups include:

microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
microsoft.public.windows.vista.administration_account
microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
 
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Bruce Chambers

Paul said:
Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus programs
running on Windows Vista? Will I be able to install Norton
Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few months?
Thanks.


If you're lucky, no.

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 
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Rock

Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus
programs
running on Windows Vista?

There has been a resolution from way back in the Beta. There are several AV
programs that work well in Vista including Avast, AVG (both free), and
PC-Cilian, Ca eTrust, and I believe NOD32.
Will I be able to install Norton
Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few months?

If you're lucky you won't. Avoid the Norton home products. They are, at
best, resource hogs, and at worse cause any one of a number of system
problems and are very hard to remove.

Why aren't you asking this in a Vista newsgroup. This one is for the XP OS.
 
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Paul

This is exaclty the reason I hesistate to ever post any questions in any of
these Microsoft Newsgroups. You ask a simple question and every know-it-all
has to jump in with a nasty response about what you are doing wrong or why
you're an idiot.


| "Paul" wrote
|
| > Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus
| > programs
| > running on Windows Vista?
|
| There has been a resolution from way back in the Beta. There are several
AV
| programs that work well in Vista including Avast, AVG (both free), and
| PC-Cilian, Ca eTrust, and I believe NOD32.
|
| > Will I be able to install Norton
| > Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few months?
|
| If you're lucky you won't. Avoid the Norton home products. They are, at
| best, resource hogs, and at worse cause any one of a number of system
| problems and are very hard to remove.
|
| Why aren't you asking this in a Vista newsgroup. This one is for the XP
OS.
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|
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| --
| Rock [MVP - User/Shell]
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R. McCarty

That's why the Newsgroups are broken down into product areas,
so users can get focused help on their particular problem. I guess
this NG (XP-Gen) is sort of a "Clearing House". We take on a lot
of questions that fall outside Windows or redirect questioners to a
more specific group.

This is a diverse group, many folks are long time participants and
patience does have a limit. We have a few resident "Idiots" who
persist in handing out blatantly incorrect or dangerous suggestions.
Those individuals get dressed down frequently for their advice.

Otherwise most responders are usually pretty considerate, based
on what you'll see on other newsgroups. The intent is to help and
if it seems at times answers seem harsh or abrupt it's not to make
the questioner feel like an "Idiot", but answer as best we can and
move on to the next question.

**Questions on Norton Home won't find many friends here.
Many responders own/operate IT businesses and have a lot of
experience dealing with it and generally recommend against
purchasing/using it.
 
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Rock

This is exaclty the reason I hesistate to ever post any questions in any
of
these Microsoft Newsgroups. You ask a simple question and every
know-it-all
has to jump in with a nasty response about what you are doing wrong or why
you're an idiot.
"Rock" wrote
| "Paul" wrote
|
| > Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus
| > programs
| > running on Windows Vista?
|
| There has been a resolution from way back in the Beta. There are
several
AV
| programs that work well in Vista including Avast, AVG (both free), and
| PC-Cilian, Ca eTrust, and I believe NOD32.
|
| > Will I be able to install Norton
| > Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few
months?
|
| If you're lucky you won't. Avoid the Norton home products. They are,
at
| best, resource hogs, and at worse cause any one of a number of system
| problems and are very hard to remove.
|
| Why aren't you asking this in a Vista newsgroup. This one is for the XP
OS.

I don't see where anyone has called you an idiot, or said you were doing
anything "wrong". I have answered your question with my opinion of Norton
home products, based on both personal experience, and on the numerous posts
in this newsgroup documenting the myriad of problems that folks experience
as a result of them. Maybe the weight of all the folks who posted to this
thread giving you the same opinion might be taken into account? These
people service systems and problem solve for a living. You should never get
yourself too invested in a particular software product that you are
unwilling to look at it's problems or alternatives to it.

As to the newsgroup reference, I wanted to direct you to the most
appropriate group. You wouldn't go to the urologist for a cardiac problem
would you? A Google search for microsoft vista newsgroups would have given
you the link for the web interface or looking in the newsgroup list in OE
would have shown them as well. Had you gone there a brief perusal of the
posts would have answered your question.

Maybe you thought the fact that so many here recommended against Norton home
products was some sort of intentional insult to you because you have used
it? Not so. We are just trying to save you more grief.

This is Usenet. If you can't stand to see the replies, then don't ask the
question. It's an open newsgroup.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Paul said:
Has there been any resolution to the issue of third party antivirus
programs running on Windows Vista? Will I be able to install Norton
Antivirus/Firewall if I buy or upgrade to Windows Vista in a few
months? Thanks.


This question is really out of place in a Windows XP newsgroup, but Avast
works just fine on Windows Vista. I don't know about Norton, but in my view
it's the single worst anti-virus product available, and I wouldn't have it
on any of my machines.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Paul said:
I've been using only Norton security programs on my computers for
well over 6 years and have NEVER had a problem!


I used them for much more than six years and I too used to pooh-pooh the
advice of others who said not to use them. Then I got burnt, on more than
one machine, in quick succession. I won't have anything to do with any
Norton products anymore.

But it's your choice, of course. All any of us can do is make suggestions.
 

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